Ultrasound Daily Digest Wed, 25 Nov 92 Volume 1 : Issue 30 Today's Topics: answers to your questions Anyone heard Ultrasound & Star Control 2? Beattles are invading epas... Cakewalk problems Conclusion to Delivery Day Bowl Gravis Talks - confused GUS & Flight Simulator 4 GUS-EA News GUS and a SB in the same computer Is Chris Yuzik answering mail? Midi cable in rework My Ultrasound experience New patches Petzold's Drum Machine The gravis bbs: some messages The return of the beatles... Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #29 (3 msgs) Unreal Demo Very primitive voc/wav player Welcome to the Ultrasound Daily Digest!Subject: Anyone heard Ultrasound & Star Control 2? Well.. Windows Digest Address: ultrasound@dsd.es.com To post to tomorrow's digest. Request Server Address: ultrasound-request@dsd.es.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, and request files. Owner Address: ultrasound-owner@dsd.es.com To contact a human if the server has troubles. FTP Site #1: ftp epas.utoronto.ca (/pub/pc/ultrasound) Digest back issues, mirror of request server People responsible: David DeBry, Adam Iles, Thomas Wong, Chris Yuzik, and many others who should be thanked often. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 2:30:42 PST From: mtichy@sfu.ca Message-Id: <9211241030.AA16082@fraser.sfu.ca> Subject: answers to your questions To: Ultrasound Daily Digest > Well kids, bad news. Maximum Overkill won't work with the GUS. Yes it does work with Maximum Overkill. Try "SBOS -O3". You'll get adlib music. It sounds horrible but it works. > I am trying WinMod Pro, with an amiga MOD file. > The mod file is read in successfully, and plays but I get no sound. > Does anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong? I've tried Winmod 1.0, works fine. With Winmod Pro, you can't use stereo. Other mod players tested by me that work are: WowII v1.30 at the highest mixing speed Visual Player v1.0 at the highest mixing speed Modplay v2.19B with only himem.sys and default mixing speed TrakBlaster 1.4 WOW 2.01s had to lower mixing speed GTS .091 That's it. WowII and Visual Player are the best. Visual Player can be found on the ftp site wuarchive.wustl.edu in the pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS as vp10.zip I believe. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:11:22 EST From: moddan@bowker.com (Daniel Nicholson ) Message-Id: Subject: Anyone heard Ultrasound & Star Control 2? To: Ultrasound Daily Digest mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy) writes: > > > Are you working on a GUS specific mod player? > > > > > > > Actually we are, along with a GUS music editor which supports > > loading and saving of MODs but also has MIDI and 32 channel > > support. > > Sounds exciting. Is this going to commercial or shareware > software? Possible release dates? It's going to be commercial software. It probably will not hit the market until Fall '93. There will be a demonstration version released during the summer. We've also got a standard MOD player in the works, probably out in 3 or 4 months. That will be shareware. Dan Nicholson, PCkS Associates InterNet:moddan@bowker.com AOL:MoDan Voice:(908)964-8066 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 23:42:09 EST From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9211250442.AA03843@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: Beattles are invading epas... To: Ultrasound Daily Digest I have uploaded the first of a serie of beattles songs. (I am the walrus) It has a .cfg file which is much needed since it was done on a non general midi or GS synth. Some patch would need better instrumentation. Particularly in the lead synth instruments where the GUS has none. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 92 00:19:16 EST From: timkwan@Athena.MIT.EDU Message-Id: <9211250519.AA27615@e40-008-4> Subject: Cakewalk problems To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Hi, I asked earlier about why about three-quarters of the percussion instruments in Petzold's Midi Drum machine program wouldn't produce any sounds on my GUS. Well, I upgraded the GUS today to 1 Meg. Cost me $37.80 (including tax) for the 6 DRAMs. They were 256K types, 70 ns and not 100 ns as recommended in the GUS manual. Apparently anything at 100 ns or BETTER will work. I have a question. I am running the Cakewalk demo from wuarchive. It is sorta 'unpredictable' as to when it can and cannot play a .MID file (or a .WRK file for that matter). Sometimes, when I try to play a .MID file it would play only one or maybe two of the instruments in the song, notably the bass/drums. I would then quit Cakewalk, run Microsoft's Media Player and have it play the same .MID file for a second or two. I would then quit the Media Player and rerun Cakewalk. This time it runs properly...that is, it plays the same .MID file when a while ago it couldn't. This phenomenon happens when I run WinJammer as well. Why is this? -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 14:48:39 PST From: nestlero@khan.usc.edu (Mikeee) Message-Id: <9211242248.AA26868@khan.usc.edu> Subject: Conclusion to Delivery Day Bowl To: Ultrasound Daily Digest When our game was cut short by a nasty electrical storm, EA was going for the win....well, the refs made a correction to an earlier call(my 2 month old Gravis order - that was supposed to take another 2 weeks- came 3 dayts later...) and awarded Gravis another point. (What's the score now anyway? I've lost track) Anyway, get to the point......Mike from EA called me today(Tue. 1:30 pm) to tell me that they had their cards, and they were being packaged as we spoke!!!! With Thanksgiving coming up, however, he didn't think I'd get it before Monday :-( He did tell me that this was all of their expected shipment..so everyone else that's been waiting...they should be on their way! Ok, so now I'm anxiously waiting by my mailbox again..... Looks like it's gonna be a tie game(although I'm still frustrated with both companies). BTW: Get ready for lots of stupid questions as I try to get it to work in my machine! Mikeeeeeeeee No quotes today....gotta get out to my mailbox! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 10:50:21 -0400 (AST) From: Shadow Of Fear <8900795@Info.UMoncton.ca> Message-Id: Subject: Gravis Talks - confused To: Ultrasound Daily Digest This is part of the 'gravis-talk' request available from the mailling list server. -------BEGIN--------- I run - PlayMidi Whatsong I get this - 'Warning: couldn't find program 188 to put on channel 6' Ok, Here is my WhatSong.CFG: 0 acpiano1.pat 1 acpiano1.pat 129 percs.pat 65 altosax.pat I add the new line >> 118 acbass.pat Next time I run PlayMidi WhatSong, that particular message doen't appear. You will see the message for each patch change not assigned to a .PAT name. ------END------------- The GUS couldn't find program 188 and he (the guy who wrote this) added a line wiwith the number 118 in the configuration file. Is it an error? Where does that 118 number come from? Is it supposed to be 188? Can anyone explain that to me? ____ _ _ _ / \ \ /' )' )' ) | | | / / / | (_|__/ \ / / __. .__ ___ | | __. . . \ . ___ / (__(_/|__) )__/(__ \_/__(_/|__)\_)__/\__)__) <_ Markus on QuartzPARADISE and AfterFive (506)855-4974 - Canada +---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ | markus@info.umoncton.ca | "My son, ask for thyself | | For Talk: 8900795@info.umoncton.ca | another kingdom. For that | |---------------------------------------------+ which I leave is too small | | When all else fails, read the instructions | for thee" - King Philippe | +---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 13:04:13 GMT From: media01!aba@relay.nluug.nl (Alwin Bakkenes) Message-Id: <9211241304.AA00716@media01.UUCP> Subject: GUS & Flight Simulator 4 To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Hi all, Finally GUS arrived in Holland, I got mine yesterday from Logitech. Now I had planned to kick out my Sound Blaster Pro (what ever they mean by that), but I had some problems running the GUS with Flight Simulator 4 with the Sound & Graphics upgrade. Running SBOS it creates the correct sound but an additional something anoying is added. I have tried all SBOS options and yet can't get it to work properly. Now my question is if there is anybody who got it running for him. If anybody else had problems with this as well then please inform me about this as well. If the problem can't be resolved then I'll just have to wast a Slot and keep in the SB. Another thing, a while ago I read about off board parity errors, I forgot what caused them but I am very interested in this because I had a message implicating this yesterday. It happened while recording with USS8. I presume the high bus speed (16 MHz) caused it, but I'm not sure. My machine is a 486/33 with 8 megs ISA. Thanks for any replies, Alwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 14:51:34 PST From: nestlero@khan.usc.edu (Mikeee) Message-Id: <9211242251.AA26873@khan.usc.edu> Subject: GUS-EA News To: Ultrasound Daily Digest BTW: Guess I was wrong about the UGLY teddy bears after all..... That and the worst defense the Trojans have played all year.. Apologies to the Bruin high-schoolers across town. Mikeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 16:03:41 CST From: Roland Ferreras Message-Id: <9211242210.AA10748@orca.es.com> Subject: GUS and a SB in the same computer To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Now that I have a GUS on order and it is being shipped as we speak, I was wondering if the SB or for that matter any other card can coexist with the GUS? I've heard people that have successfully have done so. And someone said that a rep or whatever at AG actually has a GUS, SB Pro, and a Roland coexisting happily despite the warning in the manual. So what's the scoop? Can say a SB be used in conjunction with a GUS to take advantage of the SB's ability to use SB supported software? Any input will be appreciated. Roland Ferreras U56980@uicvm.cc.uic.edu sixpacker@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 21:29:54 PST From: echuang@cco.caltech.edu (Ernest Y. Chuang) Message-Id: <9211250529.AA18874@punisher.caltech.edu> Subject: Is Chris Yuzik answering mail? To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Just curious, when is the last time anyone has received a reply from a question they sent to Chris Yuzik? (And how long before that did you send the question?) I sent him some mail 4 or 5 days ago, but I have yet to hear from him, so I figure either: a) he is no longer replying to email. b) he has a huge backlog of messages, and it'll take him a while to get to mine. c) he is waiting for one of the techs to come up with a solution to my problem. There were some conflicting reports a little while back as to whether his email address was chris_yuzik@sfu.ca or yuzik@sfu.ca, so I sent the message to both (and neither has bounced so far). Are these addresses still valid? What's the typical "turnaround time" for getting answers from him? - Ernest echuang@cco.caltech.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 23:39:41 EST From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9211250439.AA03754@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: Midi cable in rework To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Hi, I'm redesigning (ouch!) from scratch the cable layout. It will be in gif format on epas.utoronto.ca and also available from the request server probably friday. It will incorporate midi in, midi thru, midi outs (2), 2 joysticks and midi cable design. Since the first one has not worked for me (it did for the original designer), i'll take a second look at this. BTW, the cable is the Sound Blaster cable, not the Pro. It is really expensive from Creative Labs. If anyone has made a working cable, email me asap. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:07:45 GMT From: tazzzzz@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor) Message-Id: <1992Nov24.040745.17682@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Subject: My Ultrasound experience To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Tomorrow I'm going to call Telemart and cancel my order for a Gravis Ultrasound (GUS), because I picked one up at Babbage's today. That's right! I actually got one at a national US chain. Neat, huh? (The price, for those that are curious is $149.99) Anyway, I plugged the board in, installed the software and it worked! Just like that. I forgot to copy the MIDIMAP.CFG file, so my Windows was screwy until I fixed that (they really should put something in the docs to make sure you do it). Anyway, the thing sounds great! SBOS works ok, and I haven't tried the other stuff yet. Hopefully, I will get the new software for free. We'll just see... -- Kevin (Tazzzzz) Dangoor \ Locomotive (adj): powered by insanity. University of Michigan / Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA \ This ultraDeluxe powerpack sig has 50% less internet: tazzzzz@eecs.umich.edu / saturated sponge than the competing brands! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 23:51:04 EST From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9211250451.AA04258@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: New patches To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Well, more bad news: i have not yet received the informations i need for my new patches (and also the fact that WAVE doesn't work with the GUS puts even more work on my shoulders). So , the patches are delayed till next week. Does this sound familiar? (BTW, don't try to harass Brad Craig, he's home with a flu for at least a week...) Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 13:13:40 EST From: timkwan@Athena.MIT.EDU Message-Id: <9211241813.AA27708@carbonara> Subject: Petzold's Drum Machine To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Petzold's MIDI drum machine program works fine, but only about a quarter the percussion pieces work. The rest of the instruments (like trianngle and cowbells) dont produce any sounds. Why is that? -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 92 1:00:27 EST From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9211250600.AA06715@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: The gravis bbs: some messages To: Ultrasound Daily Digest It's me again. I have uploaded to epas most of the messages that have been posted to the Gravis BBS. As you will see, they are mostly questions (some definitely technically embarrassing for Gravis by Gord Wait and me). I doubt answers will come rapidly, but you never know... And Gravis answered the 16 bit thing with the windows driver like that: well it doesn't work because you are using an 8 bit DMA channel... Nope, not really, Sandy. Guess again. I tought he worked for Gravis... Anybody is compiling a bug list? Maybe Mr. Yuzik from Gravis should do that... Bugs (or severe limitations) in: windows driver -no midi in -12 notes? -we need pload -no 16 bits playback -only 22KHz mono playfile -loop playdigi -loop -channels sbos -well you know what they are etc... Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 92 0:51:49 EST From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9211250551.AA06602@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: The return of the beatles... To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Second beatles song uploaded to epas: magical.arj (magical mystery tour). The cfg is needed again due to the non general midi or GS format. Also would benefit from new patches. Now, when we'll have some real patches, i'll jump into techno and rave music... BTW, acker-gs is not bad at all. It just lack some lead synth (hey, gravis, get the message: general midi includes several lead synths). Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 2:27:28 PST From: (Gnit Leirbag) Message-Id: <9211241027.AA15655@fraser.sfu.ca> Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #29 To: Ultrasound Daily Digest :) :) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 10:17:47 PST :) From: biggles@berlioz.nsc.com (Winston Worrell) :) Message-Id: <9211231817.AA20784@berlioz.nsc.com> :) Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #28 :) To: Ultrasound Daily Digest :) :) Well kids, bad news. Maximum Overkill won't work with the GUS. :) You can still play the game, but you won't get any sound because :) the program won't allow any TSR's in memory (I keep getting an NMI :) error) whenever I have the sbos loaded. I tried loading them high, :) then the machine/game locks up. :) :) Of course you need 4Meg of ram to run the game and its a "frightfully :) good" game/piece of software. I think this one should win awards if :) anything does this year. Umm... I do believe the game won't work with an expanded memory manager, thus loading things high won't solve the problem. I've managed to get the GUS working with Maximum Overkill using the -o3 option. Clean autoexec and config files - no mouse, no smartdrv; just himem.sys; and 4Mb RAM. Funny thing is, the first time it always gives me the NMI error, but if you run Max Overkill immediately after that, the game will run. Can't say I like the sound on this game though. The rockets sound more like an organ than anything. :) :) Unfortunately, I will be returning it due to the lack of sound :) (no sound effects through the pc speaker, just 'lame' music) :) :) It would be nice if a game like this had direct support for the GUS, :) because then maybe they cound cut down on the memory requirements. :) (ie Download 1 meg of sound to the gus and maybe it only needs 3 Meg to :) run) :) :) PS I upgraded my GUS to 1 Meg. It cost me $3 a chip, about $19 inc tax. :) I did it through Pixel Computer on Tully Road in San Jose (70ns), Fry's :) and CompUSA wanted ~$5 a chip. :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 18:28:12 EST From: Phat H Tran Message-Id: <9211242328.AA13167@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #29 To: Ultrasound Daily Digest > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 10:50:27 +1100 (EST) > From: Fluro > Message-Id: <199211232350.AA11604@arthur.st.nepean.uws.edu.au> > Subject: sound card comparison > To: Ultrasound Daily Digest > > Even tho this is a GUS mail list I thought it would interest > people to see how the gus compares with other sound cards, > especailly those people who havent got a GUS yet and are > deciding in what to bye. > > I would like some help from you all in compiling a comparison > list against some of the high end sound cards on the market at > this time........ > Being interested in a card for midi equipment and not just > games Im finding it hard in deciding which card to bye at this > time. This is why I have decided to start up this comparison > chart.... > > KEY > --- > > x Not known weather the feature has been added. > * Optional > o feature included > - feature not included > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > SB16 GUS Audio Master Turtle Beach ultrasound > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^^^^^^^^^^ That should probably read "Multisound". :) > 16 bit o 8bit/* 12 bit o > sampling > > stereo o o o o > recording > I think that the Audio Master is a mono board (playback and recording). I don't have my Byte with me, so I'm not sure. > 16 bit o o o o > output > Again, if I recall correctly, the Audio Master is only 12-bit. It doesn't make sense to make a card have 16-bit playback if it can only record in 12-bit. > On board - x o/6800CPU o/56001DSP > DSP or > CPU > The SB16 supposedly has a very powerful DSP. I don't know its number. > S/N x x x >90db > ratio > Prerelease specs had the GUS with a SNR of 80-96dB. > pan on x x x o > voices > In stereo mode, the GUS has 16 independently pannable voices. [Other specs for which I have no comment have been deleted.] Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 92 16:59:20 EST From: adrianr@ecr.mu.oz.au (Adriano_Ennio RAIOLA) Message-Id: <9211250559.4171@ecr.mu.oz.au> Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #29 To: Ultrasound Daily Digest > > No offense, but this developer either doesn't know what he's talking about > or isn't too talented. Programming for the GUS is the absolute hands down > easiest sound programming I have done, and I'm not even the programmer here. > Furthermore, due to the design of the card very little overhead is > necessary. That must be an awfully coded MIDI player to need 580k of > memory!! What he says about not being able to transfer samples while > playing is absolutely true. This is why we used a modified MOD format and > kept the size of each piece to under 100k. By doing this it was possible to > load all samples needed for a piece at one time. hmmmm.. this worries me, so in a game or something, we can only have a limit of one meg of samples to play a tune of some sort in any number of voices, and if we want to play a tune with different instruments, the music has to stop to load up different patches? What happens to midi files that select different instruments half way thru a piece? such as a flute section suddenly cutting into a main piece etc...?? Can a patch be loaded to one channel while another channel is playing simultaneously? Ive read the GUS can sample and playback at the same time, could this be used to do the trick? -- | adrianr@ecr.mu.oz.au --------| Adrian -aka- Plugger | * * * * * | _/_\ | adrianr@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au --| What time is love? | *_* * *_ *_ | / OZ | | adrianr@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au -| I think its gonna be | * * * * * | \__-_/ | adrianr@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au | a long, long time. | * * * * * | v ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 15:51:45 EST From: timkwan@Athena.MIT.EDU Message-Id: <9211242051.AA14930@marinara> Subject: Unreal Demo To: Ultrasound Daily Digest I tried running the Unreal demo with my GUS. I first ran sbos and then ran unreal. Then I selected Soundblaster 8Mhz. When the demo begins, I hear a number of bleeps and then an unintelligible male voice. (for 2 seconds or so.) Then it's total silence for the rest of the demo. What's wrong? Not enough RAM on my GUS? Sorry, I am sure this question must have been addressed a while back in the digest, but I am sure one of you must have a ready answer. :) -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 21:51:55 -0500 From: Ryan Kim Message-Id: <92Nov24.215206est.4849@bay.csri.toronto.edu> Subject: Very primitive voc/wav player To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Hi, Folks! Well, quite often, I wanted to be able to play my sound files on my GUS without having to load SBOS all the time. (I run SBOS only when I want to play games.) So I wrote this program, called PL. It's a small (i.e. quick & dirty) program that extracts sampling rate information from the sound files (currently it only does WAV and VOC files) and calls PLAYFILE (that comes with GUS). For example, I just unzipped all my WAV and VOC file in a directory and did "PL *.*" to hear all 100 of them one after another without SBOS in the memory. The only problem is that there are these annoying clicks at the beginning and end of the sound files because PLAYFILE does not filter out extra info in the sound files. I hope you don't mind me putting this here. It's about 10 pages long. Anyway, here is PL v1.0 uuencoded. Oh, yeah, where is GUS Development kit? I'm dying to do some programming on it! Ryan begin 644 pl10.zip uuencoded stuff removed end ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 15:20:53 GMT From: mlm@rhi.hi.is (Magnus Logi Magnusson) Message-Id: <9211241520.AA22936@hengill.rhi.hi.is> Subject: Welcome to the Ultrasound Daily Digest!Subject: Anyone heard Ultrasound & Star Control 2? To: Ultrasound Daily Digest ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 09:53:58 -0600 From: tarjan@iastate.edu Message-Id: <9211241553.AA14071@iastate.edu> Subject: Well.. To: Ultrasound Daily Digest I just ordered my ultrasound from Discount software (or whatever the name is.. :> I am to overjoyed!) THEY HAVE THEM IN STOCK! Well since alot of you asked for the number ... (also all of you waiting for telemart.. DO WHAT I DID.. Say screw you and ingram! cancel your order NOW) call theis number 1-800-448-6658 sn and say.. Id like to order a GUS! No telemart STILL dosent have them in,.. Of course.. (well actually call tdiscount first and make sure theat they still have them in.. they are probably going FAST.. ) Cya!~ Tarjan@iastate.edu Scot Kight (yes I am the MAD GOD .. Hmm I wonder if ea is going to re release Bards tale with GUS support.. :> ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 23:48:48 EST From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9211250448.AA04107@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: Windows To: Ultrasound Daily Digest Hi there, The window driver has only 8 bits, mono 22KHz implemented. This is very frustrating. I discovered that with BC++3.1. Also the midi part of this driver seems to have only 12 channels not 16 (and how do we get 32 mono?). I also tried WAVE by Turtle beach and it doesn't work with the GUS driver. I have not figured out why. It says unsupported format. Now, if you add all this to the fact that most windows software don't do patch loading, i think that the driver is in deep need of amelioration. Now, we want 16 bits, 44KHz, stereo. 16 channels. Pload. MIDI IN (i almost forgot). I have expressed my concerns on Gravis BBS also, so that puts more pressure on them. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #30 ******************************