GUS Daily Digest Tue, 4 Jan 94 007 Volume 10: Issue 4 Today's Topics: cd-out to gus in question. cd2 pinouts on the gus? controller 7 in Mega-Em Day of the tentacle gmidi.ims GUS Daily Digest V10 #3 Jim Blakely eats crow Looking for Voyetra (Piano Works) midi driver for GUS!! MK Mortal Komabat and MEGA-EM in general MPU-401/General MIDI issues Power Chords Problem The 7th Guest and Ultrasound Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 16:03:07 -0600 (CST) From: mjs7529@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael J Stumpf) Subject: cd-out to gus in question. This has been asked/debated before I'm sure, but I just got a cd rom drive. Can anyone diagram a cable / tell me where to buy / sell me a cable to attach direct audio out to some input on the gravis? thanks, mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 11:03:44 -0800 (PST) From: Art Lowery Subject: cd2 pinouts on the gus? Not in the FAQ... 1. Does anyone know what the CD2 pinouts are on the new gus cards? I have the cd1 pinouts (l-gr-gr-r), but was wondering what that cd2 was for. it is a 3 conductor dip male socket. 2. I was able to play an audio cd though the gus, but only while in windows, is there a dos driver or program that does this? I am running a playcd.exe program that came with the cd. Thanks art ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 11:18:34 EST From: dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu Subject: controller 7 in Mega-Em To whoever that was yesterday... Yes, you are correct. Mega-Em completely ignores controller 7 (channel volume) messages. It's its biggest limitation, so far. Plans have been in the works for ages and eons to fix it, but nothing has been done about it. Personally I'm really starting not to care anymore, as Mega-Em will be useless in another six months anyway as more and more companies move to a 32-bit interface, either proprietary or DPMI. In either case Mega-Em will shortly be worthless anyway, and if we don't get direct support by then we're going to be out in the cold. I'm really pissed off about this crap with Sierra. I can't play their new games in Windows because they're too too slow and they lock up. I can't play their new games in DOS using SBOS (which would be a terrible thing to have to do anyway) because of the 2#%#$^$#@#$%#$@%T$E%^$%#@$%^#^%$#!%$%^R#^$@E^#^% DOS4GW DOS extender they used which locks up on my motherboard. In short, after nearly a year with no support and barely any significant changes in the state of things, I'm really starting to get fed up as GUS owner. I was positive at first, then negative, then positive again. I remained positive and hopeful for a long time but it's souring. I just can't see major support for the GUS, and they're rendering Mega-Em useless, so we're just screwed screwed screwed. --Michael-- << dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu >> <> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 00:31:23 +1100 (EST) From: Iain Huxley Subject: Day of the tentacle gmidi.ims I have just bought Day of The tentacle, and it looks like a really good game.. but using sbos the sound is nothing like as good as the demo version which I have used with megaem, since the roland/gmidi drivers are not included. The readme indicates that you can send off for a free upgrade, but there is nothing in the box regarding this. The shop has no more copies and since I bought it for a really good price I am holding onto it. So... Does anyone know where I can get hold of the update? The files req are Gmidi.ims or roland.ims... I tried copying over the ones from the demo, and this crashed the machine. Perhaps someone could send me them? thanks, Iain ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 13:57:45 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V10 #3 On Mon, 3 Jan 1994, GUS Server wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 15:30:50 EST > From: jmorris@ace.com (Cuthalion) > Subject: Gravis Node? > > How does one go about becoming a liscensed gravis distribution node? > I am cosysop of a bbs, and have asked the sysop, and he seems to be in > favor of the idea, but would like more info. where can i get a text > file about this? > Hmmm. I think you have to call the Gravis BBS to get it... Wouldn't it be great if there was a 415/510 San Francisco Bay Area Gravis SUpport node :) > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 11:05:44 -0500 > From: ap641@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hank Leukart) > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V10 #2 > > >> I've had my GUS since about March, but only recently got some memory to > >> upgrade to 1Mb (for Xmas). The problem is, I think I either got some > >> wonky memory, or I'm doing something wrong. The memory came from an old > >> 286 motherboard, and seems to be the right kind: > >> > >> AAAIM304P-08 > >> NMBS 9051 > >> > >> But, here's the problem. When I put all six chips in, some of it reported > >> as "bad" when I ran GUSDRAM. But, I could load 1Mb worth of patches in > >> Windows, and when I ran EMUSET, 1Mb loaded up. However, to be safe, I > >> tested the chips two at a time. So, I found the faulty chip, and thought > >> everything was okay. > >> > >> But, I just got XWing, and noticed a *lot* of static when I ran EMUSET > >> with GMIDI emulation with the 1MB in. With 256k it was fine (but only > >> running at 8 bit :( ). With 512k, it was still okay, no static, but still > >> 8 bit. With 768k (with GUSDRAM reporting all DRAM good), I got the static > >> back. So, I'm confused. I thought the static was owing to the bad chip, > >> but even with the bad chip not installed, I'm still getting static (loud > >> enought to preclude enjoying the game). > > >The problem is really the NMBS brand itself, it is incompatible with the > >GUS because I have bought the same chips before of a quantity of 6 and > >they always failed the GUSDRAM test so I tested them in pairs and they > >were fine until I go pass the 768K bank and I switched the last bank, It > >always would have a error there so I exchanged all 6 of them and the same > >thing happened so then I exchanged and tried out the new ones and the same > >thing still happens so then later I just got other brands, Samsung, > >Hyundai all mixed together with the original NEC 80ns chips and everything > >was fine. The NMBS I had were the same part number as yours rated at > >80ns. My dealer where I later turned to for the Samsung and Hyundai chips > >said the NMBS are not rated at the correct speed because 80ns maybe 120ns > >compared to other brands. I hope this helps. Have a Happy New Year! > > That is strange. I am using six of the AA1M304P-07 > NMBS 9311 E2 > chips, and they work great. On the package it said they were 256 x 4, and > they run at 70ns. > > -- > Soon to be released shareware: | Hank Leukart takes no > Apogee: R A P T O R : Call of the Shadows | responsibility for the above > Epic: E P I C B A S E B A L L | message. > id: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | "Official" DOOM FAQ Writer > Thats why yours work because 70ns is like 100ns of other manufacturers for the NMBS brand, the -08 plainly don't work at all unless it's Video Cards which could care less since it doesn't use the Paging mode.. Cheers, Vince hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu root@kingdom.com System Administrator/Owner Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc. San Francisco, California USA \|/ (o o) _____________oOO__(_)__OOo_______________ | No warranty for my actions of any kind | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 4:55:35 CST From: chuth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Cornel H. Huth) Subject: Jim Blakely eats crow > > or whoever wrote the SDK 2.10 thing. I'm here complaining about the SDK > > & FTS's position on what "should" be in there. > Listen, if you don't like the software, then either don't use it, or > complain by writing a letter, fax, or telephoning the support lines given in > the manual. Listen (to yourself). BTW, I'm not asking for software, only adequate documentation on the patches. FTS told me that "patches are not the focus of the SDK". You buy that? Do you know anything about patches? > Some of us *pay* for the priviledge of reading this digest, and your > derogatory ramblings are inappropiate. Keep them between you and Forte. Everyone does. And if you think "derogatory ramblings are inappropriate" here, then why are you carrying on so? > Incidentally, the header of the message from Forte in the digest gave their > email address: My signature has my e-mail address. Next time, feel free to use it. Unlike Forte, I'll actually respond. > Many companies do not give/have personal mail addresses, or choose to not > give them to the outside world, for a number of reasons, almost all of which > are directly for better customer support. Many like to dish out 'advice'. It's free! I don't know what you are trying to say, but I suppose I got what I paid for. > > Jim Blakely, Microsoft Certified Professional > Blakely-Signature Associates > A Microsoft Solution Provider Jimbo, next time you don't like what I have to write...well, do whatever you want. Scream up and down for all I care. > DOOM doesn't support IRQs above 9. Not above 7, either. -- chh Internet: chuth@lonestar.utsa.edu Fidonet: 1:387/800.8 BBS: The 40th Floor;V32b@1(210)684-8065;M-F:5pm-9am,WE:1p-9a CT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 16:02:54 -0800 (PST) From: rush@netcom.com (John Harris) Subject: Looking for Voyetra (Piano Works) midi driver for GUS!! Hi, Does any know if there is a Voyetra midi driver for the GUS?? These drivers are used for several dos midi programs including Piano Works and Band in a box. I have Piano Works, which is a great piano instruction program by the way, and I would really like to use it with the GUS midi port. I contacted Piano Works, and they told me that they do now write the midi drivers them selves. They get them from a company called Voyetra in New York, which I have not been able to contact. Right now, I have a MM401 midi card in my system, just to accomidate Piano Works. All the other midi software I have works fine the GUS midi port. I really need the mm401 card for something else. If anyone can help me locate this Voyetra driver I would really appreciate it. Thanks, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 13:07:12 -0800 (PST) From: "George A. Montemayor" Subject: Re: MK > First off, has anyone gotten Mortal Kombat for PC to work completely > with either sbos 2.10 or mega-em 2.? (whatever the first version w/ > SB support is...)??? It works pretty good with SBOS.. But the > sounds are just a little off.. At least compred to a real SB. > Also, with mega-em, I can get the Roalnd support to work, BTW it > sounds AWESOME, but the SB support won't work. It gives me the > following message: > > Unsupported Sound Blaster DSP Function: 00 > > What does that mean?? Because I would LOVE to use the SB & Roland > setting. Let me know! I dunno if another version of SBOS would Jayeson, can you please fix this problem when you have the time? It would make many Mortal Players very happy. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 16:52:11 CST From: Jason Bottjen Subject: Mortal Komabat and MEGA-EM in general First off, has anyone gotten Mortal Kombat for PC to work completely with either sbos 2.10 or mega-em 2.? (whatever the first version w/ SB support is...)??? It works pretty good with SBOS.. But the sounds are just a little off.. At least compred to a real SB. Also, with mega-em, I can get the Roalnd support to work, BTW it sounds AWESOME, but the SB support won't work. It gives me the following message: Unsupported Sound Blaster DSP Function: 00 What does that mean?? Because I would LOVE to use the SB & Roland setting. Let me know! I dunno if another version of SBOS would work better or what, but I would appreciate some help. Jason Bottjen P.S. I dunno if it is possible to use Ultramid with it or not. MK has files in the dir of the type *.drv... But those obviously not ADV files.. Someone with knowhow lemme know.. hehe ------------------------------ Date: 03 Jan 94 07:50:54 PST From: pil!zapo@PacBell.COM (Zapo Zapper) Subject: MPU-401/General MIDI issues Hi all. I just went out and picked up a Yamaha PSR-510. It's a pretty good, mid-range GM compliant keyboard. I'm interested (obviously) in hooking it up to the MIDI port on my GUS. My question, however, is will games labeled "General MIDI" and working with Megaem work through the Gravis MIDI port, or do I need a "true" MPU-401 port? Also, I remember some rumors awhile back about MEgaem eventually having MPU-401 emulation through the port? Thanks. =Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public Image Limited VBBS (510) 831-3634 [ASV] Guest Account open Home of VUUCP/2 USENet Interface! [VSP] VBBS 6.10 [Primary Dist. Site] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 06:22:13 -0600 (CST) From: David Gardiner Subject: Power Chords Problem I recently got a GUS. In general, it works great. The one program that I cannot get any sound out of is Power Chords. Everything else seems to work fine: MIDIDEMO.BAT, MODDEMO.BAT, Windows Patch Man, Kid Works 2 (a Windows-based children's game that uses the sound board). Power Chords. Tried demo, tutorial, main program. Opened instrument window and clicked with right button. No sound. Setup: Hardware: Dell 310: 386-20, 4 MB RAM Gravis Ultrasound: 256K memory, v2.06 MS-DOS 6.0 Non-windows, SBOS not loaded: 615K conventional memory free Windows 3.1: 386 Enhanced Mode, 4,903 KB Free, 86% Free system resources. Any suggestions? Thanks. David Gardiner Teknos and University of Minnesota Computer Science Department ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 00:16:45 -0700 From: aqwhiteh@acs.ucalgary.ca Subject: The 7th Guest and Ultrasound Hi! I know the 7th Guest has been out for a while so I'll make this one brief: Is there a special way to set up the game for a GUS and how do you do it? I have the t7gfix3.zip file from epas, but I can't seem to figure out exactly what I should be getting from it. Thanx in advance. Andrew Whitehead aqwhiteh@acs.ucalgary.ca ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V10 #4 ******************************