GUS Daily Digest Wed, 9 Feb 94 0:07 gus- Volume 11: Issue 7 Today's Topics: Cap't Cavedude Direct D/A sampling GUS0038.ZIP and related topics GUS Daily Digest V11 #5 GUS Daily Digest V11 #6 (3 msgs) line in? New Windows Drivers: Sound Crashes; Poor Animation playfile 3.2B, gustrit, heini.zip Question about DOS4GW Sound in MI? Uploaded a MID file Windows For WG 3.11 & the GUS Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 05:58:15 EST From: madbax@aol.com Subject: Re: Cap't Cavedude Uh, Actually I *think* it's because they don't *want* it out, rather than not having enough space or enough people willing to d/l 20 megs in a wad. And again, I may be completely off base, and the demo with the cavemen may be another demo ALTOGETHER (chorus: "the demo with the cavemen may be another demo...). However, it does seem likely..."I" haven't seen that many 20 meg demos floating around, my own nutty self... Cya! --Joe (Joseph Baxter.....madbax@aol.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 08:52:59 -0500 From: liaor@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Direct D/A sampling Just curious, will the 16-bit daughterboard for the GUS have direct digital I/O? (I guess not, since it would have already been mentioned.) Also, can all CD-ROM drives directly copy CD-digital audio to the hard drive? I downloaded this pogram called CDGRAB v3.2 (from ftp.cdrom.com) and I can't tell from the lame docs whether direct digital-audio transfer is possible with all CD-ROM drives. The authors want registration fee even before the program proves its worthiness. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 00:22:00 +0000 From: da930908@mcis.messiah.edu Subject: GUS0038.ZIP and related topics For all you who can't find GUS0038.ZIP and can't seem to pick up on things, it's on archive.orst.edu in the pub/packages/gravis/submit directory. Unfortunately, I keep getting a WATTCP Socket Error: -1 whenever I try to DL it. Is this a problem with my side, or is this a problem with my server, or is this a problem with archive.orst.edu?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 12:23:32 -0800 (PST) From: Rath Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #5 RE: I just got this file from a friend of mine, it was called gus-upd.zip and it was a programm to update the memory on your gus so you can have a playback rate of 67 KHz. I would like to know whether anyone has heard of this before and knows if it will work. I haven't tried it yet, afraid that it might damage my card. What does it do anyway? Does it reprogramm an epromm on your gus? ----------- You know, I've had this file for awhile, too.. Since early Jan. Never wanted to try it out in case it was a bug or virus designed by some miffed SB 16 user... :) hehehe! Anyone else know about it? I can put it on EPAS if needed. Rath ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 11:05:31 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #6 >Date: Mon, 07 Feb 1994 12:20:36 -0800 >From: Harlan Hilman >Subject: GUS settings > > What do I need to set my GUS to for: > > Doom Use an IRQ below 7 and select native support. be sure to close the door if you want your children to live a healthy adult life... MUAHAHAHAA!! > Civ Load Mega-Em as MT-32 (emuset -mt) support and select a Roland. > Master of Orion Look for a file called MOOGUS.ZIP at EPAS mirrors. It fixes the lot. > F117 Mega-Em, methinks. never tried. > X-Wing AIL? 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The code for ultramid has been integrated into the drivers themselves (look at their sizes -- they are quite large). There is a lot of code duplication as well, since the drivers have to drive the same piece of hardware (the GF1 is used both for MIDI and streaming digital audio playback), and thus must not trample on each other. However, since these drivers are used by games that run in protected mode to avoid the 640k barrier, the size of the drivers is not a problem. > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 09:25:43 -0800 (PST) > From: Eli Bingham > Subject: Getting sound with Ultima VII Part 2 > > Okay, I've tried EVERYTHING to get sound in this game. I patched in the > AIL drivers but they don't work (says "can't initialize sound card") and > there's barely enough RAM to load Ultramid (U7P2 makes you disable all > memory managers, so no loadhi'ing). Mega-Em is of course braindead with > an EMM (why does it NEED an EMM, anyway?). So, is there some sort of > patch out there? Somebody help! U7 won't work with the GUS' AIL drivers since the game uses customized versions of those drivers. You'll need to use SBOS. > Also...does anyone know whether Ultima VIII will have native support? Petition Origin for native GUS support. > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 1994 12:20:36 -0800 > From: Harlan Hilman > Subject: GUS settings > > What do I need to set my GUS to for: > > Doom GUS is supported in native mode by DOOM, but since the game doesn't support IRQs greater than 7, you must set your GUS' IRQs to ones in the 0 to 7 range. > Civ Use SBOS or Mega-Em. Nothing special about this one. > Master of Orion There's a GUS patch for this game somewhere on the archives. > F117 Use SBOS. > X-Wing Use Mega-Em. > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 10:41:00 -0500 > From: terry.gritzan@dt-can.com (Terry Gritzan) > Subject: NMI > > 1. Well I upgraded to a 386DX40 board and got one with the "nmi > procedure disabled". Could someone explain what this means? It means just that. SBOS couldn't detect a working NMI (non-maskable interrupt). Some of the new motherboards do not bother to implement this feature, which is part of the AT bus specs. > Will this cause any other problems than not being able to run SBOS? I'm > not terribly hurt by that. Sounds like it is time to pick up a cheap SB > for real compatibility. You might not be able to use the GUS' MIDI port in Windows without a working NMI. > 2. I am using Megaem to get SB DAC support in the meantime. > Are their any plans to work on or release a non-protected mode > megaem? No plans since Mega-Em needs protected mode to do the I/O prot trapping central to its emulation duties. > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 09:29:42 -0800 (PST) > From: Eli Bingham > Subject: No TREMSTR.PAT...help! > > I just upgraded to v3.1 of the GUS software. The software I had before > was rather old (HONKTONK.PAT instead of HONKY.PAT) and now it seems there > is a 'new' patch which I don't have (TREMSTR.PAT, Tremelo Strings). > Is there some way someone could uuencode this .PAT file and email it to > me? I'd appreciate it. Grab gus0034.zip from archive.orst.edu (pub/packages/gravis/gravis/patches, I think). > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 08:28:08 PST > From: Rick Skalsky > Subject: Question about gusmod > > I'm running a 386-40 with the gus using 2.06 disks and have had a problem > develop. Everything in windows works fine, but the dos gusmod and mod demos > just lock up when I try to run them with the gus included mod files. Oddly, > dmp plays mods fine. Any ideas what's going on? When I run gusmod, the Try rerunning GUSMOD's setup.exe. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 9:26:53 CST From: cowles@hydra.convex.com (John Cowles) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #6 gmyles@cml.com writes: > > Has anyone tried the newest (or any for that matter) Windows drivers > with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Add-on for Windows (try saying that 5 > times fast). This is billed as Microsoft's intermediate upgrade for > Windows while we wait until the end of the year for Win 4.0. It > includes a fair bit of 32 bit features that Microsoft claims speeds > Windows up by 50%. I have heard real world reports of about 30%. > - I run my GUS under WFW3.11 using the latest drivers. No problem. BTW, you don't get 32bit features unless you have a Western Digital IDE controller. Didn't speed my windows up! I have SCSI. John -- John Cowles cowles@hydra.convex.com CompuServe: 72074,451 Convex Computer Corp. 214 497 4375 3000 Waterview Pkwy Richardson, Tx. 75080 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 01:52:40 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Yin Subject: line in? ok, i have both a GUS and a SBPRO installed in my computer...both cards work perfectly fine, but i want both cards to be routed to my stereo system, so i tried to stick the output of the SBPRO into the line in of the GUS. Well, that didn't seem to work. However, if i stick the output of the SBPRO into the output of the GUS, and then the output of the GUS to the stereo through the amplified out of the GUS, it all seems to work...does this happen to anybody else? I have a v2.4 card, and i tried it on my friend's v3.4 card, and the same things happen. The line in works prefectly fine in USS8 when i hook up a cd player to the line in, but only after i turn on the line-in through the USS8 program...the -l option in the ultrinit command doesn't seem to do anything for me. Just wondering about this strange occurance. Mike p.s. Is there any difference between routing the SBPRO through the GUS, or vice versa? I mean, does one way produce less noise, or are they about equal? ------------------------------ Date: 08 Feb 94 12:44:22 PST From: ksoule@tatertot.com (KSoule) Subject: New Windows Drivers: Sound Crashes; Poor Animation Jim English wrote in Digest #30 V10 > when i run kq6 CD version in windows when it gets to the scene where the guy > has just gotten into the castle (after talking to lassie) :) and is talking > to the wizard guy with the turban, it just crashes my windows. (drop to DOS) > and if i run windows wo rebooting it says the sound drivers arent installed. > but rebooting fixes it all. So this seems like a problem with the new > windows drivers. Anyone else had thisd problem? > -jim I had a similar problem playing Sierra's Take a Break! Pinball (Windows). Both midi and sound will be churning along, and then all of the sound will die. The machine doesn't lock (the game continues to play, without sound), but I get a MIDI MAPPER message that the drivers aren't installed, and I have to restart Windows to regain my sound. This loss of sound happens each time I play the game. To solve this problem, I returned to the Windows drivers that shipped with the standalone version of Patch Maker Lite. They don't crash the sound. Am having one other problem with Pinball. The GUS drivers are messing up the animation. Sometimes both the sound and the animation with momentarily freeze (a midi note will be "elongated") for a very noticeable fraction of a second. Makes it really hard to play the game effectively. I can "solve" the problem if I uninstall the GUS drivers, i.e., no sound (or if a use a PAS16 and the PAS drivers). Pinball is not a patch-caching app (are there any?) Fast machine; 486DX/50, so that is not the problem; other applications are open, but none of them are doing anything; no DOS apps open. It seems that the "pause" may occur if I hit both flippers at the same time (Left and Right Shift keys), but I am not sure about this and, in any event, the pause also occurs when there is no keyboard activity. FWIW, Northgate Ultra-T keyboard. This animation-interruptus problem has occurred with all of the GUS Windows drivers I have tried. Any comments or help will be appreciated. Kent Soule TaterTot News & Mail * San Francisco,CA * VirtualNET @1415008 * ManicNet @2 415.255.8340 * @tatertot.com * WWIVNet @4552 * Link @14552 * GAYnet @4500 * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 00:56:25 +1100 (EST) From: Andrew Leahy Subject: playfile 3.2B, gustrit, heini.zip Just a few things: 1. I was using the new playfile (3.2B), and I came across some problems: i) when "recording" to a .WAV file, I got an error "Cannot record (10)" "Error writing file \tmp\a.wav"! I change to a .SND file and it records fine. Change back to .WAV file still no go...BUT if I create a dummy file called "a.wav" I have NO PROBLEMS recording OVER IT! Also, if the file I'm recording over is larger than the sample I'm recording, PLAYFILE does not trash the rest of the file!! (giving really weird results if you record over it at different sample rates :) ii) using "playfile -n1" to Enable the Line-level input DOESN'T WORK. The [X] appears in the Line Input box...but no sound! Toggling this box doesn't help, line input is lost! Originally I thought I'd read the help wrong, so I tried "playfile -n0", this does exactly the same thing! Question: Can you set the stereo position of mono-file playback with the new playfile? Used to be "playfile -bX" where X was the stereo position. 2. I had problems getting "gustrit.zip" (GRAVIS.EXE) running on my machine, the only way I can get it working is to run "playfile" first (just run and Quit it). The run GRAVIS.EXE...works fine. Not a really amazing demo...though :( 3. I've uploaded to epas a collection of GS MIDI files under the filename "heini.zip", download and enjoy (of course playmidi doesn't play them correctly, because of the percussion screw-up, use Windows instead!). There are some nice arrangements...I like ROSS.MID. My setup: 486/33, 8Mb RAM, GUS 1Mb, DOS 6.2. ULTRAINT=220,1,1,7,5 _____________________________________________________________________________ Andrew "Alf" Leahy email: alf@st.nepean.uws.edu.au Computer Systems Officer phone: (047) 360622 (work ;-) Department of Computing, University of Western Sydney - Nepean, Australia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:37:45 -0800 (PST) From: jtang@argon.chem.ucla.edu (James Tang) Subject: Question about DOS4GW Since this had been brought up here before, I thought i might be related to GUS. What is DOS4GW anyway? It's in my Syndicate directory, but what do I use it for? thanks for your help. james ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 12:08:59 +0100 From: Roberto Bonet Subject: Sound in MI? I have trouble getting any sound from Monkey Island. Neither Megaem nor Sbos gives me any sound. Suggestions ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:29:38 -0600 From: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM) Subject: Uploaded a MID file Well, if anyone wants it, I uploaded a MID file I've had laying around that I finally sorta finished. Still ends too abruptly, but no big whoop. On epas (and mirros) in the submit directory. File is called THE-RAIN.ZIP. There's a TXT there for it as well as in the .ZIP. Your comments are welcome (but be nice). Ken ken@austin.ibm.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 17:07:37 SST From: "FLAT^^TOP AT DISCS, NUS, SINGAPORE" Subject: Windows For WG 3.11 & the GUS Garry Myles said in yesterday's digest.. >Has anyone tried the newest (or any for that matter) Windows drivers >with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Add-on for Windows (try saying that 5 >Windows while we wait until the end of the year for Win 4.0. It >includes a fair bit of 32 bit features that Microsoft claims speeds >Windows up by 50%. I have heard real world reports of about 30%. Yes, the GUs drivers in v3.1 and even 2.06a works with WFWG3.11. WFWG3.11 has almost 50% increase in speed only if u use 32bit file acces, which kinda localises the cache to windows. But note, dos 6.2 is also required. cheers FLAT^^TOP GUSig Singapore... /------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | <<<<<<>>>>>> Email: kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg | | MSwin, GUS & Scout+ Terbo User, Fanatic Gamer, DOOMer, BT, ST & SW fan | \------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 09:37:16 -0500 From: decvax!cg-atla.agfa.com!pasky@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com (Robert Pasky) Subject: Problems with new Gravis software > First of all, the Windows MOD player seems to be CPU sensitive. It > plays on my 386-40 but it sounds like a 45 being played at 33.3 and > is, as such, pretty worthless to me. WinMOD may not sound that > great, but it doesn't drag like that. Is it just slow (intermittent?) or off key? I've had that problem (going off key) with every version of MODUS I tried. Actually, I noticed the intermittent problem, too. Anytime Windows is busy for more than a second or two, the music pauses. I get the impression that MODUS is failing to restore the correct pitch after a portamento slide or something. I was attempting to listen to 'bigtime3.mod' last night (after installing GUS0038) and within a few bars it got so sour that I had to kill it. MODUS got sent to the trashcan -- again. BTW, I'm running a 486DX/33, so I *hope* it's not a CPU speed problem. -- Bob ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V11 #7 ******************************