GUS Daily Digest Sat, 16 Apr 94 9:37 PST Volume 12: Issue 16 Today's Topics: Anybody have MYST/GUS experience CD-ROM in windows? Falcon 3.0 & GUS Gateway Pentium SBOS problem solved GUS Daily Digest V12 #14 GUS Daily Digest V12 #15 (3 msgs) Mega-em with a CD drive mixer program for Windoz More on DOOM GUS caching MPEG compression/decompression on GUS Novell 3.12 Network Drivers and GUS SBOS problem (future crew's panic demo) Whassup with that long WiReD posting about SB garbage? Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: DAKO@delphi.com Subject: Anybody have MYST/GUS experience Hi fellow GUS'ers I have been playing the Windows version of MYST for a few weeks and have noticed that the sound seems a bit sporadic. I _have_ been having trouble with my CDROM to Gravis cable, but since only the background sounds (ie. the waves crashing on the beach, the wind in the trees, etc) seem to be affected I tend to doubt it's hardware. As an example, I will be reading a book in the Library and when I turn the page, wave loud wave crashing sounds will come out of the left speaker. Turning another page may shift the wave sounds to the right. Turning back a page, and I may get silence. Turning forward again may give me wave crashing out of both. The readme file mentions that the game tries to use software volume controls and even provides revised software drivers for the SB 16. I suspect the game is not handling the GUS's volume controls properly. Has anyone else had these experiences with this game or do I need to take the cover off my machine again and wiggle the cable? Thanks for reading this far, and thanks double if you respond!! Daniel Koppen dako@delphi.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 07:47:45 +0800 (WST) From: Roderick Nasir DAVID Subject: CD-ROM in windows? Greets lads, I've got a Panasonic CD-ROM drive, thats been driven by a dedicated controller card and the audio is being piped through the GUS. In DOS, I can get the cd-audio to work, but in windows (through media player) I cant get the cd-rom to work?? Any suggestions?? Thanx heaps in advance. Nas -- * Seeya on the Groove Train! | "Missy? Would ya mind my rod please?? " * * _+-_|\ | Rex Hunt. * * / \ | Nasir David at the... * * Perth , W.A ----> +_.--._/ | University Of Western Australia. * ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 22:37:15 -0700 From: jpoet@einet.com Subject: Falcon 3.0 & GUS First of all, thanks to all who responed to my query about Jayeson. Now, has anyone had any luck getting digital sound effects out of Falcon 3.02 with either SBOS or MEGA-EM? Thanks again, John ____________________ John Patrick Poet \ jpoet@einet.com \ Home: (505) 292 6197 \ Work: (505) 292 6961 \ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:50:57 CDT From: Joe G. Thompson Subject: Gateway Pentium SBOS problem solved For those of you experiencing trouble with SBOS on Gateway Pentium systems: The problem appears to be caused by a flaw in the implementation of the PS/2 mouse port, which seems to grab the NMI even after SBOS redirects it. The solution is to switch to using a serial mouse. I have tested this myself with a couple of different games and it seems to work consistantly. I spoke with Gateway technical support about the problem and their "solution" was to replace my PS/2 mouse with a serial mouse for a 15% restocking fee. Advanced Gravis is kindly working with Gateway to find a real solution to the problem. It is possible that a flash BIOS upgrade may be all that is necessary to fix the NMI problem. Joe jgt1@ra.msstate.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:39:16 -0400 From: riley@chicken.planet.org (Robert Riley) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #14 Hello. I am not certain why I am receiving your information. I don't believe I subscribed to any list. Please advise me if this was in error. Thanks Rob :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Riley Telephone: (416) 534-5897 85 Dunn Avenue, Suite #2 Facsimile: (416) 534-8019 Toronto, Ontario Canada M6K 2R8 Internet: riley@chicken.planet.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:05:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Talbert Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #15 FYI, I think HIRED GUNS sounds awesome on the gus! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:23:56 -0300 From: DODSON@ac.dal.ca Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #15 Not that I have any interest whatever in the SB AWE32 or any other CL product, but I am curious about one thing: everyone is ranting and raving about this "upgradable to 28 megs" - but nobody has ever mentioned whether that is 28 megabytes, or megabits. Of course megabytes is assumed, but remember, they called their 500k of memory "4 megabits". It seems more likely to me that 28 megs means 28 megabits in this case, i.e. 3.5 megabytes. I mean, my hard drive is only 150 megabytes, and my computer has only 4. 28 megabytes seems outrageous, except for professional musicians (and no musician in his right mind would buy that piece of crap anyway. But hey, I could be wrong. <-- standard disclaimer Bruce Dodson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 23:05:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #15 > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 11:24:11 EDT > From: "NEMO G DE FURIA" > Subject: another gus0041 question > > I forgot to mention that the installation created a directory on my C drive > called ADMALTOI with INSTALIT.EXE, and NORCIMO.ATE. What are they for? I > get an error 2229 when I run the former. These are litter files left behind by install.exe and setup.exe. You'll also find hidden files with 8-letter names in c:\. You can delete them. > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 01:53:51 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." > Subject: Rebel Assault > > I need help trying to get Rebel Assault running. It does have the > UltraSound support, but when I run the program, sound comes out funny, > like music and/or speech and then buzzing noise that comes out. The GUS driver in Rebel Assault is brain-dead and highly inefficient. You're better off running SBOS and configuring the game for SB sound since the SB driver in RA is much more efficient. All the music is 8-bit mono WAV recordings anyway. They won't sound any better in Rebel Assault's GUS "native" mode. > Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 18:31:56 +0200 > From: tbaehler@di.epfl.ch (Thomas Baehler) > Subject: Some RAM Problems > > So i purchased my RAM and placed it on my Gravis... well, all worked well, > the sound was even better, etc., BUT some instruments used in the melodies > were not right. For example, when I had my 256k, in Hand Of Fate were the > instruments like on the SCC-1, and now some instruments are just different > and don't go at all with the type of music being played (for example, in > Hand Of Fate, where it is "old" music, there's an electric guitar...) This doesn't sound like a RAM problem, or even a problem at all. The instruments loaded into a 1 MB GUS will be different from the ones loaded into a 256kB GUS. You should expect a difference in instrumentation in your games after upgrading your memory. > Could any1 tell me what I have to do, and if there's something to do ? If you prefer how a certain score sounds with 256kB over 1MB, then just tell Mega-Em that you want to only use 256kB of the GUS' memory. Load Mega-Em with the -mem1 switch, then run emuset as usual. Actually, megaem -mem2 should also provide you with the same instruments as megaem -mem1, but loaded at "44kHz" instead of "22kHz" for better overall sound quality. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:09:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Subject: Mega-em with a CD drive Somehow I can't get mega-em to work with my CD rom drive. Here is what happens... I load megaem (without switches) and then emuset (w/o switches). I type g: (my CD drive letter). I type "dir" and the system freezes, then 5 seconds, then the message "Internal stack overflow. System halted." I'm using a Toshiba 3401 internal drive connected to a future domain TMC-871. I'm using MSCDEX that came with dos 6.2. I tried increasing STACKS= 64,512 (the maximum) in config.sys but same problem. I also loaded megaem with the -p switch (just in case Futrue domain is like adaptec, but it's not), and still nothing. Help! This means I can't run CD games with megaem at all!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 01:14:51 -0400 (EDT) From: gt0074b@prism.gatech.edu (P.Chen) Subject: mixer program for Windoz Where can I get the new windows Mixer program which has the CD input volume control? I've searched through all of the Ultrasound directories at wuarchive to no avail. I also can't seem to be able to save the mixer settings. THe Help file says to go to the Drivers Applet and change the mixer settings in the Ultrasound Wave/Synth driver, but there are no mixer controls there! Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 00:21:14 -0400 From: ap641@cleveland.freenet.edu (Hank Leukart) Subject: Re: More on DOOM GUS caching In a previous message, Yossi Oren wrote, >PS Hank Leukart, a.k.a. "Mr. FAQ" sez Commercial DOOM will use a MASI-like > digital sound system, which should further slow it down on SB and further > speed it up on GUS! Now my concern is that we'll be stuck with 4-channel Let me just clarify here so I don't get pounded. :) id is CONSIDERING a completely new digital sound system for the commercial DOOM instead of MIDI. This is NOT final. -Hank -- ----------- Hank Leukart ------------ | "Official" DOOM FAQ v5.5 Writer --- (ap641@cleveland.freenet.edu) --- | FAQ by E-mail or "ftp.uwp.edu" ------------------------------------ | Support your shareware companies! ------------------------------------ | REGISTER your shareware! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 16:24:09 -0300 From: Matt Carswell Subject: MPEG compression/decompression on GUS Granted, the PC mag review of the gus blew, but it did tell me that the gus was the only card that supported both MPEG compression and decompression onboard. does anyone know how to use this feature of the card? are their any gus friendly programs available that support MPEG? thanks for any help. matt. mcarswll@oyster.smcm.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 03:29:00 -0600 From: ddrolet@traider.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dean Drolet) Subject: Novell 3.12 Network Drivers and GUS I don't know how many of you this will apply to but here goes...A while back I posted a message about how to get the GUS working with my network drivers. After getting some mail that helped me about as much as a stick in the face, I decided to experiment. It seemed that the only way that I could load my Netware 3.12 and 4.0 VLMs (virtual loadable modules) to log in to my server was to load either SBOS or Megaem. This just pissed me off as for the most part, I run my games and other applications in native mode. All megaem would do was to create another EMS handle that could never be recovered even when it was unloaded. I needed a better solution. I was playing around with the DMA channels on the gus since I have one of the dreaded OPTi chipsets. Mine seems to work just great. My previous configuration was 220,1,1,11,7 and my computer would lock solid when trying to load my network drivers without the said emulators. I changed it to 220,7,7,11,7 and did not notice anything until I forgot to load the emulator and the network still came up. I was a little taken by suprise, so I put the original config back into play and WHAMMO! Locked solid. It seems that the network drivers require DMA channel 1 for the initial load. One call to one of the network gurus that I know and he confirmed it. It is an undocumented "feature" of the software. Anyways if anyone else was or is to have a GUS in a computer that is on a network, I hope that you can use this info to save some grief that I had to go through. Just remember don't use DMA channel 1. Dean --- ddrolet@traider.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dean Drolet) A Proud part of Net Logic Incorporated! Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 94 14:29:59 -0300 From: Matt Carswell Subject: SBOS problem (future crew's panic demo) hi, after months of wanting one, i finally bought a GUS about a week ago and have been more than impressed with everything that supports it directly, but i keep running into problems with the emulation programs, particularly SBOS. my card came with 256K RAM (which i intend to upgrade ASAP) and version 3.07 (i think) of SBOS. so far, i have not been able to get anything that supports SB FM music to work. Particularly, i wanted to see future crew's panic demo (why didn't they support the gus like they did in unreal and 2nd reality!?) but it hung after the opening screen. I have a 486dx33 w/ 8megs RAM and was using EMM386 at the time to provide the EMS that the readme indicated was necessary. using just sbos, sbos -o1, and sbos -o2, the demo hung immediately after the opening screen, but using sbos -o3, it started, but didn't get past the starfield part. No music either way. I would appreciate the help of anyone who has gotten this demo, or others that support only SB, to work using sbos or another emulator. thanks. (32 channel DOOM rules!!!! (superflous rant)) matt. mcarswll@oyster.smcm.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:49:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "M. Wells" Subject: Whassup with that long WiReD posting about SB garbage? Whoever posted that: don't! If you wanted us to read about FM, Creative Labs, etc. then say "gopher to wired.com if you want to read about some FM stuff and the new Yamaha chips and Creative labs." But don't post hundreds of lines of material that doesn't belong in this mailing list. Some people on here have to download their mail. If you were ignorant and not malicious: please don't do it again. If you were malicious: someone post their email address. Surely it's stored in the server somewhere. and please don't do it again. Mike ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V12 #16 *******************************