GUS Daily Digest Tue, 19 Apr 94 9:37 PST Volume 12: Issue 19 Today's Topics: 16-bit recording db problems CD-ROM in windows? (2 msgs) CD For GUS CD play in Win CD ROM help... CGW "blind tests" Gateway P5-60 SBOS and mouse problems general questions on GUS GUS Daily Digest V12 #17 GUS Daily Digest V12 #18 (2 msgs) Masters Of Orion Media Player = audio CD player Media Player? Media Player DOES play CDs Media Player IS a CDROM player! NWDOS 7 & Megaem Please add me to the GUS mailing list Resigning from conference Sierra Drivers (Some news!!!) Sim City 2000 Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 19:30:33 +0000 From: Chrysolite Subject: 16-bit recording db problems On Wed, 6 Apr 1994 chris.yuzik@gravis.com wrote: > To:CHRYS@OZSPACE.BRISNET.ORG.AU .. > >I am looking for information on the 16-bit daughterboard - could you > >please answer a few questions... .. > This option card will only work an UltraSound V2.2, V2.4, and V3.4. .. Ok... I received it today; I have an UltraSound V2.2. On the box it says `Ultrasound Card Required For v2.4/v3.4/v3.7'? When I try to plug it into the UltraSound, C57 on the UltraSound collides with the bank of C4, C5, C9 and C23 on the DB. Do I need a different board for V2.2? The capacitor doesn't want to bend over; C57 is right in the middle of the bank of the other four on the DB. Thanks in advance, -Jason L. Williams ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 17:20:59 EDT From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 18-Apr-1994 1724" Subject: CD-ROM in windows? >$ Greets lads, >$ >$ I've got a Panasonic CD-ROM drive, thats been driven by a dedicated >$ controller card and the audio is being piped through the GUS. In DOS, >$ I can get the cd-audio to work, but in windows (through media player) >$ I cant get the cd-rom to work?? >$ >$ Any suggestions?? Thanx heaps in advance. > >Surprise! Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play >music CDs, with any sound card. You want to get a separate program for >that. Surprise again! The Media Player can play CD orange-book stuff if the CD driver is installed. Poke around in the Driver applet in the control panel. Burns ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:24:29 -0500 (CDT) From: vic@cd.com (Vic Serbe x237) Subject: Re: CD-ROM in windows? Mike Batchelor writes: > > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 18:06:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor) > Subject: Re: CD play in Win, CD crash, Netware crash, etc. > > Not the GUS Server once wrote... > $ > $ ------------------------------ > $ > $ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 07:47:45 +0800 (WST) > $ From: Roderick Nasir DAVID > $ Subject: CD-ROM in windows? > $ > $ Greets lads, > $ > $ I've got a Panasonic CD-ROM drive, thats been driven by a dedicated > $ controller card and the audio is being piped through the GUS. In DOS, > $ I can get the cd-audio to work, but in windows (through media player) > $ I cant get the cd-rom to work?? > $ > $ Any suggestions?? Thanx heaps in advance. > > Surprise! Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play > music CDs, with any sound card. You want to get a separate program for > that. Ummm, Surprise... incorrect! I've used Media Player to run my cdrom and it works fine. You just go into the devices menu and select CD audio. > -- > Mike Batchelor | UseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinux > mikebat@netcom.com | xuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesU > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Vic Serbe (vic@cd.com), Applications Engineer Central Data Corp. - Makers of the scsiTerminal Server 800/482-0315 or (+1) 217/359-8010 (FAX-6904) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:39:21 -0500 (EST) From: DINESH@Vax2.Concordia.CA Subject: CD For GUS Hi Fellow GUSERS, I would like to purchase a CD ROM, but I am not sure what model I should get. Does anyone have any idea about a good one that work well with the GUS. THANKS *****HAPPY GUSING***** DINESH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:19:00 CDT From: "GUS RuleZ!" Subject: Re: CD play in Win /From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelo/r) /Subject: Re: CD play in Win, CD crash, Netware crash, etc. /$ I've got a Panasonic CD-ROM drive, thats been driven by a dedicated /$ controller card and the audio is being piped through the GUS. In DOS, /$ I can get the cd-audio to work, but in windows (through media player) /$ I cant get the cd-rom to work?? /$ /$ Any suggestions?? Thanx heaps in advance. /Surprise! Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play /music CDs, with any sound card. You want to get a separate program for /that. Surprise!! Media Player does many things included as a CD Audio player. Just install the CD AUDIO MCI driver, and it will play any CD audio. +=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+ | W i t y G a n d a | SMAK1 Alumni? Join the SMAK1 mailing list! | | +::::::::::::::::+ | +:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::+ | +=-G=-R=-A=-V=-I=-S=-+=-U=-L=-T=-R=-A=-S=-O=-U=-N=-D=-+=-R=-U=-L=-E=-Z=-+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 20:55:36 +0800 (WST) From: Roderick Nasir DAVID Subject: CD ROM help... Greets lads, Thanx for the help for the cd-rom drive. Tremendous effort!! Hatts off to all who helped. Oh yeah, this is what me mate Andrew had to say about the problem. He doesnt know how to post here, so I'd thought i'd do it for him....Cheers mate...*grin* --------------------------------------------------------------------------- :- From: Andrew MCDONALD Subject: Playing CDs with Media Player. To: ruffus@tartarus.uwa.edu.au Organization: Monash University, Clayton Hi When you run Windows Media Player, click the Device menu. If you have set up the cdrom in windows correctly you should see CD Audio as one of the devices. If you don't see that, the way to set the cdrom up is: 1. Run Control Panel 2. Click the Drivers icon 3. Press Add... 4. Click the MCI CD Audio option 5. Windows will probably ask for one of it's installation disks 6. Then, you should get the message something like "CD device found. Redbook installation complete" 7. Go to media player and check if CD audio is installed as one of the devices And as they say... Happy GUSing! * I love my Ultrasound! * Andrew McDonald *************************************************************************** ONYA ANDREW!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) I love it too! Nas -- * Seeya on the Groove Train! | "Missy? Would ya mind my rod please?? " * * _+-_|\ | Rex Hunt. * * / \ | Nasir David at the... * * Perth , W.A ----> +_.--._/ | University Of Western Australia. * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:01:40 -0400 (EDT) From: gt0074b@prism.gatech.edu Subject: CGW "blind tests" In response to an article posted by mrogers@afit.af.mil about "blind test" comparisons of various sound cards, I question CGW's testing system and the software they used. I bought an Aria sound card before (and after!) my GUS. It's a long story, but I don't have an Aria anymore. The Aria had 512K of samples in ROM and no RAM for onboard samples. MIDI songs sounded absolutely horrendous. Not only was the Aria's amp of lower quality, the samples were barely better than FM synthesized garbage. I can't speak for the other wavetable cards, but the GUS is definitely better than the Aria 512K. CGW must have tested the GUS entirely using SBOS, or the tested subjects were paid off by Sierra Semiconductor. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 00:46:41 CDT From: Joe G. Thompson Subject: Re: Gateway P5-60 SBOS and mouse problems >Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 18:06:54 -0700 (PDT) >From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor) >Subject: Re: CD play in Win, CD crash, Netware crash, etc. > > $ For those of you experiencing trouble with SBOS on Gateway Pentium systems: > $ > $ The problem appears to be caused by a flaw in the implementation of the PS/2 > $ mouse port, which seems to grab the NMI even after SBOS redirects it. The > $ solution is to switch to using a serial mouse. I have tested this myself with > $ a couple of different games and it seems to work consistantly. > > Very interesting. Did this happen with ALL versions of the Microsoft > Mouse driver? The new Mouse.exe (not .com) v9.00 re-grabs its hardware > interrupt also at inappropriate times. This unconventional behavior has > caused problems for QEMM's Stealth feature, and also for DESQview's mouse > driver. Quarterdeck suggests using mouse.COM (shipped with some clone MS > mice) v9.00, or any mouse driver version 7.00 to 8.20, none of which > exhibit this rude and unneccesary behavior. To redirect an interrupt away > from programs that have hooked it beneath yours is guaranteed to cause > problems, regardless of any imagined benefits from this "procedure". The mouse driver I'm using is Microsoft v9.01 (mouse.exe). It came with the Gateway system. Curiously enough, the same driver works when used with a serial mouse and only misbehaves with a bus mouse. I've heard some suggestions that an earlier version of the mouse driver may help the problem, but I've been unable to locate anything older. I may have tried a Genius mouse driver at one point, but I don't remember what version it was. I would be interested in hearing if anyone had solved the problem this way. Joe jgt1@ra.msstate.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:32:45 -0700 From: akumar@hposl00.cup.hp.com (Arun) Subject: general questions on GUS Hi, I bought the GUS over the weekend. Right now I am totally fascinated by the crystal clear sound. My board version is 3.4. There are 2 internal audio connectors on the board - 3 pin and 4 pin respectively. Questions: 1. Can you use only one of the internal connectors? 2. Does anyone have a pin-out diagram describing each connector? I would like a audio cable from the Mitsumi CD-ROM to the GUS. Currently the cable is hooked to the interface card. I think the audio cable provided by the CD-ROM is lousy because the output from the CD-ROM interface card has lot of hum (when hooked to my home stereo). Any suggestions on where I could get a good audio cable to connect the Mitsumi CD-ROM and the GUS. Thanks a lot. Arun ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:09:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #17 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 15:02:32 EDT > From: "NEMO G DE FURIA" > Subject: a couple more GUS0041 woes > > Hi again, > > A few more problems I just noticed after my gus0041 installation: > > 1) Tremolo strings are gone! The default.cfg mentions them, but I don't > have the patch file anymore. Does anyone know where I can get it, > without breaking out my old disks again? The gus0041 installation doesn't delete any files, so if you don't have tremstr.pat now, then you've never had it. Likely, a new default.cfg was copied over which mentions tremstr.pat, while your old default.cfg used marcato.pat in its place. Tremstr.pat can be found in gus0034.zip, which, in turn, can be found on the usual sites in ../gravis/patches. > 2) The gunshot still sounds like a ring whistle; how do I remedy this one? Grab guns.zip and copy pistol.pat over top of ringwhsl.pat. > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 94 15:41:09 EDT > From: jeffow@aol.com > Subject: Doom Stuff > > Exactly HOW and WHICH file do you edit to get more than 4 channels in DOOM? Don't bother. The "32 channels in DOOM/Raptor" business is a red herring. > Also, anybody know when the new version of doom is coming out which will > support the GUS better than v1.2? Supposedly, iD are working on a v1.3. > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 15:28:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Shane Conder > Subject: gus > > I'm having trouble getting sound out of sc2000. I read the readme and did > what it said (sbos, no memory managers) but that didn't work. SB sound > would be ok, but SC2000 has support for roland cards, which would be > better for music. Anyone know of a way to get sound out of this game? Download gail3214.zip from the GUS archive mirrors (listed at the end of the digest) and install the GUS drivers into the game for native GUS support. > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 16:54:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." > Subject: GUS's technology > > Notice how the GUS does MPEG compression on board (somebody said) and The GUS doesn't do MPEG compression on board. Don't believe everything you read, especially if what you read is sourced from PC Mag. :) > that it can process sound without loading the CPU. So does that mean > that the GF1 chip is a DSP? If it walks like a DSP and talks like a DSP, The GF1 is a DSP, but it's not programmable. It single-mindedly goes about synthesizing waveforms and can't be made to do anything else. > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 20:30:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rath > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #16 > > Is the 16 bit daughterboard out yet? Yes. > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 19:07:49 -0500 (CDT) > From: Antonio Guia > Subject: Problems: constant clicking > > While the computer is turned on, there's an occasional click which comes > through the speakers (or short boom actually) It sounds the same as when > i pull the plug out of the microphone. This happens regardless of whether > i have the input line or the microphone line plugged in, or enabled, but i > haven't checked whether it also goes out through the line-out. Pops on power-up and initialization are the norm (especially power-ups) for audio equipment. > I'm not sure what is causing it, i've taken my computer apart and made > sure everything is seated correctly and configured to non-conflicting > addresses, irq's and dma's. What's causing it is the surge that accompanies the closing of a previously open circuit. You can't do anything about it, except making sure that your speakers/amp are the last things you turn on. > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 12:47:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: gt0074b@prism.gatech.edu (P.Chen) > Subject: ultrinit.sys error > > I've been getting a "Too many block devices" error from my > config.sys when it gets the device "ultrinit.sys". The line > looks like: > DEVICEHIGH /L2:.... =c:\ultrasnd\ultrinit.sys ultrasnd=220,5,5,7,7 > > Any ideas? The simple solution is to not load ultrinit.sys at all. It's not needed by any piece of software I'm aware of. Or you can try removing the devicehigh business since ultrinit.sys isn't a TSR. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 20:23:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Antonio Guia Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #18 $ While the computer is turned on, there's an occasional click which ... $ vlb IDE controller, answering machine at 0x220, 2400/9600 fax/modem on $ ULTRASND=220,7,6,11,5 |Sure you got everything? What about the answering machine at 0x220? |Does the click coincide with the telephone ringing? :) oops. That was meant to be 0x2A0 for the answering maching, and it only takes it up to 0x2A7. There shouldn't be any kind of interference from them. I've removed the ultrasound drivers from windows (the gus0041 version) and found that the problem goes away. I will try to find updated drivers somewhere which do not do this on my system, or try to download the drivers from pmak110 and see if the problem goes away WITH the drivers loaded. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 16:13:13 -1000 (GMT-10:00) From: Paul Murgatroyd Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #18 > Surprise! Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play > music CDs, with any sound card. You want to get a separate program for > that. Actually, it will! If you have installed the MCI CD-Audio driver off your windows disks, media player will support cd-audio, and you will be able to play music off your cd-rom. It does not provide a very nice interface for cd-audio, but it does work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ____ ___ ____ / \ / / \ / \ Paul Murgatroyd (s1114@kowande.Bond.edu.au) / / / / Student of Computing Science \----\ / / \----\ School of Information & Computing Science / / / / B O N D U N I V E R S I T Y \____/ / \___/ \____/ Gold Coast, Queensland, AUSTRALIA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:56:51 -0600 (CDT) From: hch1615@tam2000.tamu.edu (Hwa Cheng Ho) Subject: Masters Of Orion I have downloaded MOO_GUS.zip and followed the instructions to the letter yet mysystem still crashes. I have tried changing Ultrasnd IRQ but it never passes the test of setgus. It always gives me some weird remark about not finding the sbos vector or a failure to detect this or that. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for Assist Hwa Ho GIG'EM AGGIES........WHOOP! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Subject: Media Player = audio CD player $ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 07:47:45 +0800 (WST) $ From: Roderick Nasir DAVID $ Subject: CD-ROM in windows? $ Greets lads, $ I've got a Panasonic CD-ROM drive, thats been driven by a dedicated $ controller card and the audio is being piped through the GUS. In DOS, $ I can get the cd-audio to work, but in windows (through media player) $ I cant get the cd-rom to work?? $ Any suggestions?? Thanx heaps in advance. Surprise! Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play music CDs, with any sound card. You want to get a separate program for that. Surprise again to the above surpriser! Media Player does have an option to play CD audio, but only if you've installed the driver for it. Go under drivers in Control Panel, and there should be a driver titled "[MCI] CD Audio" along with other [MCI] drivers that came with Windows. If it's not there, try to reinstall install Windows (v3.1 is what I have). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:08:44 -0700 (PDT) From: seligman@netcom.com (Scott Seligman) Subject: Media Player? > $ I've got a Panasonic CD-ROM drive, thats been driven by a dedicated > $ controller card and the audio is being piped through the GUS. In DOS, > $ I can get the cd-audio to work, but in windows (through media player) > $ I cant get the cd-rom to work?? > $ > $ Any suggestions?? Thanx heaps in advance. > > Surprise! Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play > music CDs, with any sound card. You want to get a separate program for > that. WHAT?!??! I can go into Media Player right now, select CD Audio under type, and play audio CD's to my heart's content... -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |Scott `seligman@netcom.com` "Is ThErE aNyBoDy OuT tHeRe?!?"| |My opinions are just that, redirect flames to /dev/null please.| | GCS/M d++ p c++++ @l++ e* m+ s+ !n h* f+ g+ w+++ t+++ y? | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Munsil Subject: Media Player DOES play CDs The Media Player in Windows CAN be used as a simple CD-audio controller. Just install the CD-Audio driver that comes on the Windows 3.1 disks. All decent CD-ROM drivers should support the audio control API, so it should work fine. All you get is play, pause, track forward, track back, and stop, but that's all you really need. --Don ----------------------------------------------------- Don Munsil | I respect faith, but doubt is dmunsil@netcom.com | what gets you an education. don@elseware.com | -- Wilson Mizner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:19:11 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Media Player IS a CDROM player! >Surprise! Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play >music CDs, with any sound card. You want to get a separate program for >that. Probably one of thousands of messages today to say "Oh yes it is!". The usual reason for it not offering CD-Audio as one of the Media choices is that the [MCI] CD Audio driver has not been installed in Control Panel/Drivers. The driver is on the Windows disks, but may not be installed unless you had a CD-drive when Windows was installed. Certainly you can get other programs which make your screen look like the control panel of a CD Player, but Media Player does the job, as it does also with 'Media' not requiring a physical device, such as .WAV, .MID, .AVI (video), and MicroSoft animation thingies which come with Encarta and whose file extension I cannot remember. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 7:26:04 CDT From: Daniel A Nielsen Subject: NWDOS 7 & Megaem Well for those waiting for Megaem to be modified to work with NWDOS 7 (Novell), you can use QEMM from Quarterdeck. Its cheaper than buying a Sound Blaster, maybe. At least it doesn't take up a memory slot. regards dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 14:19:21 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: webb@elrond.sun.ac.za (Alan Webber) Subject: Please add me to the GUS mailing list Thanks, I'd appreciate it... -- Alan Webber - aka webb@elrond.sun.ac.za Stellenbosch University -------------------------------------------------------------------- * The path you tread is narrow and the drop is sheer and very high * * The ravens all are watching from a vantage point near by * * Apprehension creeping like a choo-train up your spine * * Will the tightrope reach the end; will the final couplet rhyme * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 18:49 BST-1 From: Colin Spittles Subject: Re: Resigning from conference In-Reply-To: <199404181717.AA16848@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Thank-you for your Daily Digests. I believe I can now cope with my Gravis Ultrasound Card. Best regards C. Spittles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 20:45:20 -0300 (ADT) From: Jurassic Mark Subject: Sierra Drivers (Some news!!!) Hey people!!! Here's what came to me from Sierra On-Line. Get ready, people. It's coming! ------BEGIN------ Hey Mark! Did a little digging... a few phone calls.... heres what I turned up The Gravis drivers were finished about 3 weeks ago but as yet have not been officially QAed. There was some delay to smooth out some tech issues. Hopefully the QA process will be quick. I have a call to the QA dept now.... I'll let ya know if I hear anything. Keep on Gaming! -----END------ Marc Y. Paulin - Jurassic Mark (Usenet) - J-Mark (IRC) Graduating CS student in search of a job... - markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (Talk 'n Mail) - (506)856-9518 - Inertia Player Beta Tester - Author of the G-List for Ultrasound owners ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 12:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryon Thur Subject: Sim City 2000 I'm sorry for asking this again (I remember seeing info on it not too long ago, but ignored it), but how is it possible to get sound playing SC2000. I have tried setting the sound options at a number of different settings, and have played around with the IRQ's etc, but no luck. Bryon ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V12 #19 *******************************