GUS Daily Digest Mon, 9 May 94 9:37 PST Volume 13: Issue 9 Today's Topics: 32 mono, 16 stereo 7th Guest, again... Any sort of upgrade? AWE32 et al CDGRAB from XM 4101 B ?? GUS Daily Digest V13 #7 Help! GUS with BUSYTOWN IDEA FOR NEW DB Mail Server (2 msgs) MegaEm and NOEMS Someone please send me CHARANG.PAT The GUS v. The MAX Video for Windows and the Ultrasnd Warlords II wont work at all Where can I find .AVI files for video for windows? Where to find UPL02.ZIP WV1019.EXE!!! (NOT VW1019.EXE) WV1019 : Vid for Win again Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 13:11:08 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: 32 mono, 16 stereo >16 stereo, 32 mono. If you have the pan pot set to dead center so that >output is coming from both sides from the same voice, then it must >actually use two voices, limiting you to 16 channels. This doesn't seem quite right to me. Each of the GUS's 32 voices can play a mono sample from the RAM, and divide it between right and left outputs. If I remember, there are 16 panning positions available. (Is the person above making the point that if you have pan positions 0 through 15, then none of them is dead centre - you want 7 and a half??) This is fine for MIDI, but if you wanted to play a true stereo WAV file, or whatever (i.e. different waveforms for left and right), then it would need two voices, one directed entirely left, and the other entirely right. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 19:12:29 -0600 (MDT) From: rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Ryan Korniloff) Subject: 7th Guest, again... Greetings fellow GUSers.. Last week I posted a message about problems with the wrong instruments being played during the 7th Guest in MIDI mode. I got a response in which I was able to accomplish what I was told I should do, however, the wrong instruments are STILL playing. Some of the instruments are different from the ones playing before I attempted to fix the problem, however. This whole situation is rather ridiculous taking into account that if the card is following the General MIDI specs, all of the correct instruments should be playing(at least that's how I understand it). Is there any way I could obtain a somewhat official MIDI map of the proper instrument set? Has anyone else been experiencing this problem?? Thanks for all of the help everyone... -- Ryan Korniloff -- rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 12:12:18 +0800 (PST) From: Francis Li Subject: Any sort of upgrade? Is there some sort of upgrade offer from Gravis to send in your GUS for a GUS MAX? I am really interested in the Max, but I know that I would have a hard time selling my Rev. 2.2 card...Come on, Gravis, even CREATIVE LABS still sends me upgrade offers to me (back when I had my original SB)...Media Vision thinks I own their PAS+ card (I ALMOST bought one) and keeps on sending me their catalogues and software upgrades...But I haven't heard from Gravis since the disks... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 16:36:54 +0930 (CST) From: Gavin Scarman Subject: Re: AWE32 et al dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu writes .... >I've been waiting patiently for a year now to see the GUS take root and become >popular. Oh ye of little patience, the SB took ages to become popular, but then the GUS will never compete as a games card - it's far too versatile. But think on this, there are probably as many, if not more GUS cards than MT32/LAPC/SCC1. I own a MT32 but it still gets limited support for games even though it's been around longer than the Adlib. And even the PAS doesn't have full support as many games have to be patched judging from the patches posted. >I'm probably going to have to cave in and get a Sound Canvas. Don't bother if it's only for games, the SC only is supported as a GM synth and the GUS already does this as well for a 1/4 of the cost. Everyone should remember that the GUS is a versatile card not a SB mono clone which is the most supported card by far. Hardly any games support even the SBPRO in stereo years on, as for the SB16..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 16:24:07 From: T.Bolhuis@el.utwente.nl (Thijs Bolhuis) Subject: CDGRAB from XM 4101 B ?? ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Content-Lines: 9 X-Sun-Content-Length: 192 Hi Gussers, Does anoyone know if CDGRAB, CDDARIP or any other direct-audio-track-reader is working with the new, low cost SCSI Toshiba XM 4101 B CDROM-drive? Thijs Bolhuis The Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 13:09:37 +0200 (METDST) From: John Peter Jore Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V13 #7 On Sat, 7 May -1, GUS Server wrote: > From: "Fran the Man..." > Subject: Re: Help with ominous error message! > > >GUS seemed to be working fine alone. And even seemed to coexist with > >LAPC-1 and SBPro. But lately (after I started playing Privateer), I > >occasionally get the following message (in large unfriendly block letters) > >when I boot: > > > >PARITY ERROR ???? > >SYSTEM HALTED > > This shouldn't have anything to do with the cards. This message usually I get the PARITY ERROR, SYSTEM HALTED error message when i warm reboot if i have started SBOS under OS/2 and sometimes under plain DOS. It only occures when if i'v done something with the sound card. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 09:55:00 -0400 From: "nhut (n.) nguyen" Subject: Help! GUS with BUSYTOWN Hi: I bought the CD version of BUSYTOWN, a game for my son, and I am having some problems. Using SBOS I was able to run the game with sounds, but it hangs on me after a while. Especially, after leaving the firestation, it hangs every time I tried. My system is a DX2-66 with Award bios and SIS chipset. I use address 240, interrupt 7 and DMA channel 1. Any help/suggestion would be appreciated. Cheers. Nhut. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 May 94 22:55:52 +1030 From: jordan.n@adam.com.au Subject: IDEA FOR NEW DB Ok, it's pretty obvious that if the GUS ever dies (and it looks as if it may do), it is because of a lot of bad press over SB incompatability. It seems that software emulation really won't work reliably because programmers seem to enjoy programming the SB in different (non-standard?) ways, which the software emulation can't handle (not without a patch or update of the software anyway). It also seems apparent that Advanced Gravis could have maybe avoided some of these problems by whacking on an OPL3, and a seperate DAC for SB emulation. Why didn't they do this? Maybe, 1. They wanted to keep this cost down? 2. They -really- thought sbos would work, or(and?) 3. It's not possible. My point is, If it is possible to create a daughterboard for hardware SB emulation, maybe it could save the gus, and maybe we could all avoid having to buy a new soundcard when the gus FINALLY dies... My questions, 1. Is this possible? 2. Does the 16bit DB have piggyback slot? 3. Would it be cost competative? and lastly, 4. Would Advanced Gravis be interested??? If the answers to questions 1-4 are 'yes', then maybe the GUS can be saved. If the answer to question 1 is 'no', then I must look like a real idiot :-) Just an idea.... -=\_+|-=\_+\-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+| jordan - jn@adam.com.au - Adelaide, South Australia _+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 May 94 19:16:23 EDT From: jdimich@ajiant.dnet.dupont.com Subject: Mail Server Hi all, This might not be 100% relevant in this digest, but here goes. I've just recently noticed (as I don't use it that much) that the GUS mail server does not allow me to leave it's archive site. I am (was) a fond user of a techno internet site which has wicked samples, and now I can't access it. Can someone please give me a couple of mail servers which are general and will let me get files from any FTP site? I would really appreciate it. BTW, I figured since I used these patches with the GUS, it makes the question GUS related! ;) Thanx in advance.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 94 9:06:13 MDT From: Brent Thordarson Subject: Mail Server Eric, I retrieved the mail-server files you're after using the following: begin send submit/UPL02.ZIP send submit/gusdly10.zip end Brent Thordarson brent@hpmtlx.lvld.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor) Subject: Re: MegaEm and NOEMS Not the GUS Server once wrote... $ $ ------------------------------ $ $ Date: Fri, 6 May 94 15:14:03 EDT $ From: dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu $ $ > No. MegaEm does not really use EMS, except to detect the presence of a $ > 386 EMM, or more accurately, a compatible VCPI host. That is what is $ > required for it to operate, and a EMS board would not provide that. Only $ > QEMM, 386MAX, MSDOS 5.0, 6.0 EMM386 and Netroom are supported at this time. $ $ But Mega-Em can run without any EMM driver, can't it? I thought that's $ what the NOEMS switch was all about. Nope. You still must load a 386 memory manager, with or without the memory manager's NOEMS switch. MegaEm's NOEMS switch tells it your memory manager is also using the equivalent NOEMS switch, and so to use an alternative method for installing itself. The primary method requires your memory manager to supply EMS and a page frame, and uses standard VCPI calls. The alternative method uses clever programming. :) $ I thought the real problem with protected mode apps was that any app that $ takes active control of protected mode will usurp Mega-Em's very passive $ and unobtrusive control. It is passive in the sense that it lets your 386 memory manager running in protected mode trap I/O port access for it. Basically, it sets up the memory manager so that any access to the I/O ports of interest generates a protected mode exception. MegaEm is then called by the memory manager to handle the exception, and it handles it by emulating the SB or GM boards. Protected mode games wipe out MegaEm's modifications to the memory manager's tables of I/O permissions and exception handlers. They set up their own for the duration of the game, and when they exit, they restore the original tables that MegaEm installed. This is just how 386s work in protected mode, with programs passing control of the machine back and forth (hopefully, with grace! :). -- Mike Batchelor | UseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinux mikebat@netcom.com | xuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesU ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plug 'N' Play: A specification invented by Microsoft and Intel which enables a computer and its operating system to create hardware conflicts without user intervention. No more jumpers to misplace! The computer will misplace them for you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 02:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: jtang@argon.chem.ucla.edu (James Tang) Subject: Someone please send me CHARANG.PAT Could someone please send me the CHARANG.PAT patch file? Thanks. james ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 13:24:59 GMT From: Mike Geileskey Subject: The GUS v. The MAX Hi there people! ................. Why have Gravis released the MAX so soon? Surely if the same manufacturer release too many different sound cards, they will not get a 'sound standard' When the Sound blaster was released, it became the standard, because Creative labs did not produce a better sound card immediately after it. They waited until it became the standard. Look at Creative labs SB's now. Due to the release of the SB-16, PAS, etc in a relatively short period of time, there is no real 16-bit standard; there are too many different cards for the public to buy. Software companies have just started producing native sound drivers for the GUS. By releasing the MAX, ordinary GUS'ers feel a bit cheated... Does it mean that software companies will produce drivers for the GUS only or the MAX only? Personally I can't really see software companies producing too many separate sound drivers, they much prefer to produce drivers to a 'sound standard'. If they stick to producing GUS drivers, the MAX's {expensive} capabilities will not be used. Perhaps Gravis should have waited a little longer, until full recognition and software support was made for the GUS. see ya later! -:@) -Mike! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 13:33:11 GMT From: Mike Geileskey Subject: Video for Windows and the Ultrasnd Some time ago, I managed to get a copy of Video for windows off the internet (usenet news alt.binaries.sounds.utilities), but I can't remember the version. The thing worked fine with my setup: VLB Cirrus card (displaying 32K cols. in windows) and GUS v3.4 About a couple of months later, I got what I thought was a better version: VFW v1.1 This was not the case. Since I upgraded, I am unable to run VFW in windows if I am displaying more than 256 colours (in 32K mode I just get a blue box containing a 'Profiling display' message, and the system freezes). In 256 col. mode, the GUS sound is also clipped. Why have microsoft made VFW worse? See ya later! -:@) -Mike! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 08:34:55 -0600 (MDT) From: re7813ke@meteor.uscolo.edu (Is this ship sinking?) Subject: Warlords II wont work at all Hey GUS'ers, Anyone get Warlords II to run with any sound? I tried it with ultramid and with megaem, and it doesn't seem to operate (have to reboot). Kev ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 94 10:15:06 EDT From: redwolf@MIT.EDU Subject: Where can I find .AVI files for video for windows? I've looked around using xarchie, but cannot seem to find any AVI files for video for windows. Can someone please let me know of some sites that have them? Thanks redwolf@athena.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 May 94 09:08:09 +0200 From: f93-maj@nada.kth.se Subject: Where to find UPL02.ZIP Hi! Someone couldn't find upl02.zip upn epas? well, that's because of stinking UNIX-file system(s) case sensitivity. ca under pub/pc/ultrasound/submit/UPL02.ZIP (note UPPERCASE in UPL). hope this helps, /F.M.J. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 May 94 17:03:44 -0500 From: terry@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu (Terry B. Smith) Subject: WV1019.EXE!!! (NOT VW1019.EXE) >Date: Fri, 6 May 94 19:19:29 CDT >From: Jim English >Subject: VFW 1.1a update...wrong again! > >first someone says wfw11a.exe, WRONG nope ain't there doesn't show up >on archie and not on ftp.microsoft.com softlib/mslfiles... >next someone calls this and says it's vw1019.exe, WRONG nope ain't there >no archie listing and isn't on ftp.microsoft.com. >Ok people, what or where is it? Why can we never seem to find the filename? >Has anyone actually _gotten_ this file from an ftp site? >Why not put it in submit? >-jim According to the SLLIST.TXT file, WV1019.EXE is the "Video for Windows Run-Time 1.1a File". Yes, I downloaded it, but I'm at work now, so I will have to wait to try it. 8< HTH, Terry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 20:26:46 -0400 (EDT) From: gt0074b@prism.gatech.edu (P.Chen) Subject: WV1019 : Vid for Win again >>>The filename is ftp.microsoft.com:softlib/mslfiles/wfw11a.exe (PKSFX), sized >> >> The correct name of the file is VW1019.exe. WFW11a.exe does not >From: Jim English >Subject: VFW 1.1a update...wrong again! > >first someone says wfw11a.exe, WRONG nope ain't there doesn't show up >on archie and not on ftp.microsoft.com softlib/mslfiles... >next someone calls this and says it's vw1019.exe, WRONG nope ain't there Whoops... I meant WV1019.exe. Be patient and search around. It's not like people on here are getting paid to give out information. Anyway, Microshaft ain't too bright when it comes to sensible 8.3 names. ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V13 #9 ******************************