GUS Daily Digest Fri, 13 May 94 9:37 PST Volume 13: Issue 12 Today's Topics: (still) Line-in problem, "PARITY ERROR", and others ADPCM compressed patches Battle Isle 2 and GUS DIGEST ADMIN: DON'T SEND YOUR VOTES HERE Does your GUS rev 2.2 has these hardware anomalies? Doom, this and that GUS Daily Digest V13 #11 (6 msgs) GUS Newsletter Megaem questions Mod4Win & XWNGSNDS.ZIP Return to Zork CD Windows/Stacker 4.0? Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 14:55:26 -0600 From: masten@beta.lanl.gov Subject: (still) Line-in problem, "PARITY ERROR", and others Help!! I've received some suggestions, thanks. But nothing has worked so far. About to hit the 30-day on the GUS, and unless I can get it working peacefully with the LAPC-1...well only one of them can be returned :-( PROBLEM 1 --------- I can't get any sound from my SBPro connected to the line-in of the GUS in DOS. Yes, I've got "ULTRINIT -L" in the AUTOEXEC. [ULTRINIT -L -O, no difference] Software is 3.11 (ultrinit is 2.18). I've observed: It works in Windows (I can play the CD connected to the SBPro thru the GUS line-in). I know the SBPro is working as I can rerout the sound to the amp. So it isn't the cable, SBPro output, or GUS line-in connectors or stages. Ultrasnd is set to 240,5,5,5,5. Moved from default primarily as the SBPro is on 220, IRQ7, and wanted 16-bit DMA. Can the GUS IRQ's both on 5 cause a problem? Didn't in the past, and I'm running out of IRQ's (see below). I've tried with SB DMA sharing both on and off. [This just in: last night I got it working, somehow, but then after either playing playmidi, or going into Windows, it died again. I've made sure the Windows mixer has line-in enabled and saved] Works if I have the GUS connected to the SBPro line-in, but I'd like to do it the other way to avoid SBPro noise if I'm just GUS'ing. PROBLEM 2 --------- I can't get the right digitized sounds in Doom with IRQ 11 or higher. Works fine on 5 (SBPro on 7, LAPC takes 2/9?). Is this symptomatic of something? PROBLEM 3 --------- More importantly, I still have the: PARITY ERROR ???? SYSTEM HALTED happen occasionally. Seems to only occur when I have the GUS and LAPC1 in the system simultaneously. Pull out the LAPC, and I haven't seen it with the GUS/SBP combo. Someone mentioned it could be a board timing problem. I'm pretty sure my dx2/66 MB has some hard-wired wait states (pisses me off). I did add a SRAM wait state, but I'm loathe to live with the performance hit. And all boards have worked just fine except in this combo. Any other ideas? PROBLEM 4 --------- Also, I've had it all of a sudden lose the CMOS info (HD codes, etc). Has happened about 6 times. Again, only when the GUS and LAPC were in the box. This is scary. 486dx2/66, 8MB RAM, Diamond SS Pro VLB (recently disabled its IRQ2 option, though it hadn't cused any probs with the LAPC), Contaq chipset. No SCSI, just IDE, CD-rom connected to the SBPro, DOS 6.2. Am I just snake-bit? Dave masten@beta.lanl.gov ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 17:30:13 -0400 (EDT) From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor) Subject: Re: ADPCM compressed patches Not the GUS Server once wrote... $ $ ------------------------------ $ $ Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT) $ From: "George A. Montemayor" $ Subject: Compress samples w/ db? $ $ Is it possible to use the 16-bit db's 4:1 ADPCM compression to compress $ the samples and have the GUS uncompress them on the file while it plays a $ MIDI file? That way, we can compress those Pro Pats v2.0 and be able to $ use them with MIDI and games with little loss of quality. No. MIDI is still played through the GF1, which has no connection with the digital audio part of the card. I asked this question specifically of the Gravis rep when I spoke to him earlier this week. There are no plans to do anything along this line with the GF1. He would not even comment about a GF2, or whatever might follow the GF1, except to say that there will be a next generation GF? chip in a future Gravis sound card. $ ------------------------------ $ $ Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 18:00:50 -0600 (MDT) $ From: Derek the Dweebosaurus $ Subject: TFX & GUS $ $ Also, I've just bought a SB-16ASP MultiCD card and a $ CD-ROM (I was extremely happy with the GUS alone but at $199Cdn, why not $ and get the CD interface included too?) and they co-exist awesome $ together, so I no longer need SBOS and I run MegaEm with the -SBOFF option $ and it works (after changing the IRQs and DMAs around). However, is it $ possible to disable the SB DMA on the GUS at all? There is still the odd $ program that conflicts since the SB DMA must be set at 1 and the two $ boards are using it... $ $ I'm using: SB-16ASP = A220, I5, DMA1 and 5, Midi at 300H $ GUS = A260, I11, DMA6, SBInt7, Midi at 330H(unchangable) If you are not loading SBOS, then the SB DMA channel is not being used by the GUS. Something else is the matter. $ Also, in Windows does one get better results and compatibility using GUS $ for both MIDI and WAVE, or GUS for just MIDI and the SB16ASP for the WAVE? I would say the GUS WAV driver is the one to use. Try it both ways, and see which one you like best. -- Mike Batchelor | UseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinux mikebat@netcom.com | xuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesU ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plug 'N' Play: A specification invented by Microsoft and Intel which enables a computer and its operating system to create hardware conflicts without user intervention. No more jumpers to misplace! The computer will misplace them for you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 94 21:41:45 METDST From: Broderdue Subject: Battle Isle 2 and GUS Anyone know how to get sound out of this little baby ? Battle Isle 2 has a really odd setup/install program that asks for i/o addresses only when setting up the game, and it fails to locate mega-emulator when I use 330 for music and 220 for digital. :) No more luck with SBOS. It appears to be using ordinaryy% Anyone know how to make this GREAT game work ? Thanks, Ivar Frolich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 01:10:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave DeBry Subject: DIGEST ADMIN: DON'T SEND YOUR VOTES HERE I thought of this after I sent in the notices yesterday, but I didn't act on it. Stupid me. FOLKS: DON'T SEND YOUR VOTES ABOUT THE USENET NEWSGROUPS TO THE DIGEST. I know the CFV says you can just reply to the message. But it's in a digest now, so that's false. You have to do it by hand. I just cleaned out a lot of votes. If you don't get a reply back from the vote tallyer in the next couple of days, it may be because you sent your votes to the wrong address. Send them in again. Thanks! -- Dave ddebry@ debry@ \ DeBry dsd. peruvian. | "First I was a hippie, then I was a es. cs.utah. | stockbroker, now I am a hippie again." com edu / ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 18:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Juan Carlos Leon Subject: Does your GUS rev 2.2 has these hardware anomalies? Hi, I just got a 2.2 GUS for my brother (I have a 2.4). It does look a bit different, more components. But I'm quite concerned with some anomalies in the soldered components. I would like to know from anybody of you who has a 2.2 board if this is what your board also has or if not, which are the correct values: - At top edge of the card: C13, C14, C15 & C16 not only have a capacitor but a 2.2K resistor in series with the capacitors. The abnormal thing here is that there are no places for the resistors. It's like one leg of the capacitor is soldered in one trace, one leg of the resistor is at the other trace and the other leg of each component are soldered on the "air". - At the middle of the card: There's a capacitor soldered on top of U24, between pins 4 & 7. Again there's no traces for this but it's soldered like it was a not planed modification of the board. The board works though but I don't know if there's something that I've overlooked. I was tempted to remove those components and solder them as they are in my 2.4 card but I guess that's not a wise thing to do since the card have some differences. So, should I worry? I don't know but this doesn't look like it was done by Gravis. Juan -- email: jleon@scf.usc.edu *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* Major in Electrical Engineering, Computers | empty until I have time to | University of Southern California | think on a new signature | Los Angeles, CA. USA *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 23:19:13 +1000 (EST) From: "Marshall / John Leonard (ISE)" Subject: Doom, this and that I've been a silent participator of this digest for a couple of months now and have found it to be the major source of useful information for my GUS. In my neck of the woods, its just about the only publicity the GUS gets! How many people are acutally subscribed to this digest anyway? A quick Doom question: the sound effects for the Gus are great, but my system swaps the left and right channels around, defeating the advantage of having stereo sound. I hear imps to the left when they are really to the right. Can anybody help me out? (BTW no, my speakers *aren't* reversed!) John Marshall, | Grad Dip CS | " Mr Alphabet says: 'Don't be afraid, there's no ---------------| marmelade!' " University of | Canberra, ACT, |------------------------------------------------ Australia |u888430@student.canberra.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 94 17:38:42 EDT From: dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu Subject: GUS Daily Digest V13 #11 > Whoever said: > > at large understands it. I realize that GM is really just a specification > > for what to name your patches and really little else, but for me GM > > support means GM patchset+MPU-401+hardware/firmware capable of > > UNDERSTANDING MIDI. The GUS only works as a GM synth in Windows or with > > hacks, kludges, and a very VERY few programs that support it completely in > > native mode. > > I guess you would like a PC that has DOS in hardware? or windows? No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that the GUS would have been more valuable to me if it had been a true MIDI device capable of understanding and using MIDI data directly, and therefore usable by games directly without any need for special drivers. I > think that you insult Jayeson by calling megaem a kludge. Mega-Em is a kludge because it is a program which attemts to make the GUS be something it's not. If it were not a kludge then there would be no need for it in the first place. I see it as a > DRIVER much the same as you may have a cd-rom DRIVER. A CD-ROM driver is a kludge as well. Its function is to allow the antiquated architecture of the PC to communicate with a device whose nature is alien to it. SCSI drivers are a kludge too. Real mode segment:offset RAM access is also a kludge. Being a kludge is not necessarily a bad thing, IF the kludge WORKS! I am GLAD that the GUS > requires these. It seems to imply that other OS may be able to better use > it. I don't follow that logic at all. It's good that the GUS does not work neatly and efficiently with existing software, but rather requires a precariously balanced TSR which accomplishes its task by fooling the software into thinkig there's a card there that doesn't exist? Sure it's slick as a greased rat, but it's still a kludge. I think even Jayeson would agree. After all, if the GUS had met JAYESON'S original expectations then he wouldn't have had to set out to write the thing in the first place. (And just for the record, I was one of the original beta testers for Mega-Em and one of the few people to actually support Jayeson by PAYING for it instead of trying to figure out ways to kill the time limit. I had a fully functional Mega-Em long before most of you guys.) As far as that goes, I would be perfectly happy with a Mega-Em like program used as a driver for the GUS if the card had the hardware for MIDI that it does for Sound Blaster emulation. What I mean is if Mega-Em could have hardware assistance to capture the MIDI data stream, then it would be able to function concurrently with newer protected mode games, as it wouldn't need to make use of any special protected mode functions to accomplish its task, and could reside entirely in DOS memory (which wouldn't affect protected mode games anyway. This reasoning might be flawed, as I think the AWE 32 has just that sort of hardware assistance--I recall that the AWE 32 MIDI kludge TSR requires a working NMI procedure like SBOS, so its function might be similar to that which I have described above as desirable for the GUS--in which case the above reasoning is flawed because the AWE 32 shares the same lack of usability as the GUS in that its MIDI kludge TSR does not work with protected mode games. The problems with GUS are not as bad as trying to get network cards > working! Same goes for almost ANY add-on card for an IBM PC. Personally, > I've never had any problem with the GUS. (If I had, my story would > probably be different, but who knows?) I've only had problems using it with software that didn't support it, which is the vast majority of software. Even in Windows very few programs support the patch caching part of the MPC specification. That much, at least, is not Gravis' fault. If Gravis had released a card compliant with the existing standard, with features thrown on top that could be taken advantage of at a later date, then it would have had much better success. That's what SBOS was intended to do, true, but my contention is that I didn't buy a GUS to emulate a Sound Blaster. They should have picked GM as their "support for the moment" and gone from there. > Fine line between bash and not bash, I guess. Let me rephrase that. I am stating the reasons why I am unhappy with the card, and therefore I am bashing it. I am not saying that you or anyone else is foolish for loving it to death, so I am not bashing YOU. I DO think that people who are willing to settle for FM sound are foolish, however. > I know some people who cannot tell the difference between a 45" and a CD. > I guess you are like that with sound cards. If so, then an SB is just > fine for you. Also, it may be easier for you. No, no you're missing my point ENTIRELY. I'm SICK of having to settle for Sound Blaster music, which is why I'm so unhappy with the GUS. The only card I've been able to USE with my newest games is my Sound Blaster, which I've had since 1989. It sounded bad in 1989, and now it REALLY sounds bad compared to the way things OUGHT to be. What I want is 100% wavetable synthesis with NO MORE CRAPPY CHEESY FM, but without any headaches either. It's not too much to ask. Really, it isn't. If I wanted to shell out the bucks I could get it right now in the form of a Sound Canvas. I'm still reluctant to shell out the bucks. I've never said anything bad about how the GUS sounds. It sounds very nice for most stuff. The only real complaint I have about the sound when it works is the lack of an effects processor, but that's a relatively minor omission. My complaint is my inability to get it to function with my software. Oh well. I hope you keep > the GUS, because I see great things coming.... I intend to keep it. Hopefully I can get it to co-exist with whatever new card I end up settling for. That way I can get the best sound possible out of those very rare games that both work with the card and that I'm interested in purchashing, while still having WAVETABLE sound in those games that can't be made to function with the GUS. Although, quite frankly, I do not see good things coming at all. After more than a year now of false hopes and never-ending delays and excuses, I just don't see a good future for the GUS. Perhaps, however, this will change if Gravis is aggressive enough at marketing the MAX. FM compatibility aside (who the hell cares anyway?) it should get higher reviews if it has good recording capabilities. Perhaps that will be what finally gets us GUS support, as even the people who should be inclined to like the card (Windows lovers, for instance) are rating it poorly because of the lousy 8-bit disk-based recording. (Personally, I don't care about recording any more than I care about FM, but it's something that the reviewers are demanding, and many people who might have did not purchase the GUS because of these bad reviews.) In the meantime, I'm going to go play with something else while I contiue to wait. That way I can only be pleasantly surprised if GUS support does one day arrive, and I will not be stuck out in the cold if that day does not come. It's time for FM to die, and I don't care WHAT card I'm using, I just don't ever want to be subjected to another note of Yamaha-synthesized FM "music." --Michael-- << dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu >> <> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 15:24:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Emory Menefee Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V13 #11 > > Date: Tue, 10 May 94 15:20:50 CDT > From: Daniel A Nielsen > Subject: Distorsion on Beethoven's 5th > > Well, One more time I guess. I used midi1m to play B's 5th. After the applause > it starts to make what sounds like a beeping distorted fog horn sound. At > first I thought something was played wrong, but now I think it shouldn't > be there at all. Any suggestions? > > Thanks again > dan After your earlier posting I went back to play the 5th with what I have (unfortunately not midi1m). Here's my report: PowerTracks -- OK Midisoft Session -- OK Cakewalk demo version --OK, but after a message that says not enough memory to hold all the patches (though PatchMan says there's 594K left after loading) Midisoft Studio -- Major skipping (whole sections). Contacted MidiSoft and found there is a problem with patch caching, soon to to be corrected. Playmidi -- this too gives a strange noise after the applause, in this case more like the audience continues softly applauding into the opening of the symph. What to make of this? I assume the midi1m is a direct DOS player like Playmidi -- maybe it's the same. One wonders if there is some miscueing of the midi information, though things seem OK after the beginning. Did Gravis write Playmidi? Who wrote Dan's? The problem needs looking into. By the way, Dan -- sorry about the earlier lame joke about the noise being the applause. Emory ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 21:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V13 #11 > Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT) > From: "George A. Montemayor" > Subject: Compress samples w/ db? > > Is it possible to use the 16-bit db's 4:1 ADPCM compression to compress > the samples and have the GUS uncompress them on the file while it plays a > MIDI file? That way, we can compress those Pro Pats v2.0 and be able to > use them with MIDI and games with little loss of quality. Answer: No. The new 16-bit codec has nothing to do with the GF1 synth, which will still support only 16-bit or 8-bit linear samples. > Date: Thu, 12 May 94 06:49:36 -0400 > From: "Marco Coletti" > Subject: Return to Zork 1.1 / VOICEOOH.PAT > > For anyone that is interested, the 1.1 update to RTZ now uses EMS/XMS to > free up an additional 64K of conventional RAM. If you don't have the > 1.1 update I suggest you nab a copy (I got it from Compu$erve, ughhh). > > In the ongoing saga of Zork problems I'm having, I've noticed that the > README file says to get a patch called VOICEOOH.PAT if you are > experiencing "Divide by zero" errors. Well, I am so I'd like some help > in finding this file. Is it in one of the files under ../gravis/disk? Simply copy doo.pat to voiceooh.pat, or change any reference of voiceooh in the game's ultramid.ini to doo. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 May 94 1:13:05 CDT From: cowles@hydra.convex.com (John Cowles) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V13 #11 Juan Carlos Leon writes: > Subject: Anyone with problems with MIDI volume? > > Hi again GUSers! > > Well, it seems that there are some people that don't like us in the > comp.ibm.pc.soundcard group. > Has anybody suffered of this problem? I'm playing some MIDI files with the > Creative Labs Jukebox, it plays three or four files and then the volume > gets lowered a lot. They volume stays that way until I stop the jukebox, > clear the queue and play some other file manually. Then I can start again > the thing until it strikes again. > I think this is because my GUS&PAS configuration but I want to make sure it's > only this and I'm the only one. > > Juan Midi files contain volume control messages in them that can change the volume from 0 (totally off) to 127 (as loud as possible) on a per track basis. If a midi file changes the volume to 10 on each track and then does not change it back, the volume on those tracks will remain at 10 until something changes them back. I think most midi player programs reset all volumes to 100 (the GM default) when they start up (but not when they begin a new song). If you have a sequencer, just add a control 7 with a value of 100 to each track that is too soft. John -- John Cowles cowles@hydra.convex.com CompuServe: 72074,451 Convex Computer Corp. 214 497 4375 3000 Waterview Pkwy Richardson, Tx. 75080 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 09:17:11 +0100 (BST) From: Toby Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V13 #11 On Thu, 12 May -1, GUS Server wrote: > Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 13:51:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: "George A. Montemayor" > Subject: Hopefully waiting for an improved Mega-Em > > Any news on Jayeson's new Mega-Em project? I just heard that the he is > working on a version that will work under protected-mode software. While > he is coding that, can he add these other features? > > * Ability to load patches > 64k > * Ability to load only patches listed in a config file This would be great. > * Ability to do software reverb (is this possible?) It is possible but involves cunning. Check out the program GUS delay v1.0 it samples a line of mic input DMAs it in to ram waits a bit then stuffs it out on the line output. adjusting the time delay gives reverb, echo, etc, So it is possible. > * Ability to do software chorus effects "" Dunno if this is possible. > * Support SB-PRO DAC yes please > * Load MT-32 custom 'patches' > > heck, if the new mega-em supports all or most of these, i wouldn't mind > paying for the new version. > # | \ / ~~|~~ /~~~\ ! ! {} ............................ | # * < \ /\ / /~\ | | |---| /\ {} Pessimism? It'll never work. > * # | \/ \/ \_/ | \___/ ! ! /~~\ {} ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 May 94 13:46:57 +0300 From: Yossi Oren Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V13 #11 >From: Juan Carlos Leon >Subject: Anyone with problems with MIDI volume? > >Hi again GUSers! > >Well, it seems that there are some people that don't like us in the >comp.ibm.pc.soundcard group. Just ignore that Heimlich loser. Or just have your newsreader do it for you. >Has anybody suffered of this problem? I'm playing some MIDI files with the >Creative Labs Jukebox, it plays three or four files and then the volume >gets lowered a lot. They volume stays that way until I stop the jukebox, >clear the queue and play some other file manually. Then I can start again >the thing until it strikes again. I beleive this is caused by a (IMHO very serious!) bug in the Windows drivers, namely not resetting controller 11 between MIDI files. Controller 11 is used to fade songs out, and controls the volume of channels by setting it to 0 to 127, with 127 being normal. What I did to solve this was dig out MRS and create a tiny MIDI file containing a note on every 16 channels (so that MRS will save them), and a controller change MIDI event changing controller 11 to 127 on all 16 channels. It took me about 5 minutes, but it still means I have to fiddle. HTH, Yossi. +---+-----------------------------------------------------------+---+---+ | = | Yossi Oren, Al-Daf Technological Mercenaries. [diet .sig] | v | ^ | +---+-----------------------------------------------++----------+---+--+| |LIOREN1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il (or just @weizmann)||GUS-sound that's || |The people are with the Golan Heights! ||worth hearing! || +===================================================++=================++ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 01:54:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chad M. Seitz" Subject: GUS Newsletter I would be very grateful if you could add my name to the GUS newsletter mailing. Thank you. - Case - Living to run the Matrix... case@cyberspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 13:59:02 +1000 From: Dennis Mills Subject: Megaem questions Okay, I've read everything I can find and monitored the news and digests for a while and I can't find the answer to a couple of problems I have, so here goes: I have a 768k GUS and I noticed that when using GM music in megaem (eg: in X-Wing) high numbered patches were defaulting to patch 0, presumably because there wasn't enough memory to hold them all. Fair enough, so I use emuset -f22 to load them in at 22kHz and now they all seem to work fine. Only thing is, I notice that emuset reports "loading GM patch set for 768k - 8 bits 22kHz" or somesuch. Is it really loading them at 8 bits? How do I make it load patches at 16 bits if so? Secondly, I have not seen any reference to problems with X-Wing and megaem (in GM + SB mode), but I have had it crash on me 3 times so far. I *think* that every time has been at the same place - about 5-7 minutes from the "end" of X-Wing historical mission 5 (the Calamari rescue one). Anyone else seen this or have any clues as to the problem? Thanks Dennis -- Dennis Mills, Senior Research Engineer, Phone: +61 3 662 7758 CSIRO Division of Manufacturing Technology, Fax: +61 3 662 7851 Cnr Albert and Raglan Streets, Preston Victoria, Australia, 3072. Internet: dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 94 13:02:49 CDT From: Chevnut@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu Subject: Mod4Win & XWNGSNDS.ZIP I downloaded MOD4WiN about 3 months ago when I had time to play, now that the semester is over and I again have time to play, my MOD4WIN does not work. I think it might have something to do with the GUS drivers in the GUS0041 package, but I do not know what the problem is. It starts out with the shareware message and then when I click OK it just exits the program. I even tried reinstalling it, and that didn't help a bit. I am seriously considering registering this software if I can get it to work again, and decide that I really want it. I have only used it two or three times (3 months ago). Any ideas? Also, I am interested in knowing where the XWNGSNDS.ZIP file is located and if it is worth my trouble. On the same note anyone know where the FAR093.ZIP file is? I have the appendium (?) for it and I can locate FAR08o.ZIP, but it doesn't seem to work right. Any suggestions for the best MOD players for Windoze or DOS? Any suggestions for the best MOD composer for Windoze or DOS? The Tramp ****************************************************************************** and then finals were over... ^ ^ * * /\ \ / \__/ chevnut@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 12:05:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Sutherland Subject: Return to Zork CD I'm trying to get the Return to Zork CD and my gus working together in my machine but Zork keeps on freezing up everytime I try to save the game (sometimes sooner). Iv'e tried about every configuartaion I can think of. Does anybody have any experience with the RTZ CD and GUS? Duncan Sutherland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 May 94 16:15:04 EDT From: FrEd Subject: Windows/Stacker 4.0? Upon upgrading to STACKER 4.0 I recieve an "Off Board Parity error at 0000:0002" when trying to use such applications as Patch Manager, Cakewalk Pro for Windows, etc.... Turtle Beach Wave works fine (as do all the non-patch oriented applications. All DOS applications work fine but any Windows 3.1 patch users halt the system. Oh, I thought it was the mother board so I upgraded and still the same thing. I've had my Gravis for well over a year and this problem started when I installed Stacker 4.0........ Thanks!!! _-Fred-_ ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V13 #12 *******************************