GUS Daily Digest Sun, 9 Oct 94 20:09 PST Volume 0: Issue 2 Today's Topics: -= REQUEST =- for last digest volume/issue # Daily Digest V0 #1 DOOM and DOOM II Shitty sounds and Why... DOS volume Gravis Europe BBS GUS Daily Digest V0 #0 (fwd) GUS Daily Digest V0 #1 (4 msgs) GUS support under Linux I love the smell of burnt IC's in the morning... Linux Linux GMod MIDI receiving problems... NHL'95 with GUS support? + CDROM on GUS question.... OS/2 3.0!!! OS/2 and GUS Quarantine SOUND PROBLEMS SerfCity & GUS syndicate and sbos? Thank You!! The art of destroying a GUS the easy way. Try Number 2... yay! Ultrasnd Max? VBE/AI for GUS ?? Windows WAVs Xcom and Gus Yet again, OS/2 GUS users get the high hard one from Gravis Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 02:54:14 +0100 From: Vince - The Almighty One Subject: -= REQUEST =- for last digest volume/issue # Hi guys, This is to ask for your assistance in finding the correct number for the current volume/issue # of the digest as I have no idea what was the last one received before I had taken over so any help would be appreciated and also Dave, if you're out there, how did you do the numbering of volume and issue #'s, does the volume number change every month and how about the issue number? Thanks... Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 19:14:28 -0600 (MDT) From: ssarasin@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Stephen Sarasin) Subject: Daily Digest V0 #1 -=>> -=>> I have heard many conflicting stories about how to make doom v1.666 -=>>work with the GUS. Some say it works fine, others don't (mine sounds like -=>>s***!!). What is the general consensus? Are there any sure-fire fixes (for -=>>the intermitent-soundfx problem)???? -=>> -=>>KrisJon Hanson -=>>(hansonka@rose-hulman.edu) -=>> Hmmm.. I own both the PAS-16 and the GUS.. So far, I have not had any problems at all with DOOM or DOOM II running with the GUS (1MB).. My problems lie with the PAS-16.. I usually get no music (wether using an 8 or 16bit DMA/IRQ)... You might want to try it on an 8bit channel, rather than 16... I hear that sometimes the game doesn't like 16bit DMA/IRQ's.. I usually don't have any trouble using either one, however... (At least with the GUS) I have an i486DX2-66, with AMI bios/chipset and 20MB RAM... No glitches with the GUS with DOOM, or other progs... Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones... :) --Stephen ssarasin@nyx.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 12:16:00 -0400 From: Christopher McKillop Subject: DOOM and DOOM II Shitty sounds and Why... Okay here it is.... DOOM and DOOM II now sound like shit with a GUS because they are not using the GUS to mix the sounds. They are mixing with CPU time, and then dumping them onto the gUS with DMA transfers... Why are thry doing this??? Well, it seems that the DICK who did the sound code for Id decided that he found a bug that made the GUS freeze up the BUS when it was pushed to its max (remeber the freezes in 1.2??), well, his fix for this was to use the GUS like an SB, kinda like SBOS does, and now DOOM's sfx sound like we are using SBOS. Interesting too that Gravis was able to reverse engineer DOOM 1.2's sound code to fix the freeze up problem, but the DICK from Id couldn't even fix it in his OWN code... Id will lose a lot of loyal GUS fans because of this..... Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris McKillop "Happiness....is a warm gun..." Computer Engineering -The Beatles University of Waterloo, Canada cdmckill@novice.uwaterloo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 22:30:38 +0000 From: "Christopher Bolin" Subject: DOS volume Newbie question: I just picked up a GUS MAX, and LOVE it! I like the mixer for Windows, but the one for DOS leaves me scratchin' mi noggin'. Even on the lowest volume setting on my speakers (amplified) the GUS shakes the roof. I've fiddled with ULTRAMIX, but I can't get acceptable volume levels without lots of speaker static, or ear drum splitting shock waves. Any help at all will be appreciated... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 11:14:12 +0100 (BST) From: "J.Waghorn" Subject: Gravis Europe BBS Hi folks, According to ZYE Technology, they are ceasing to have their BBS running, which was the Gravis Support BBS in the UK, and a new Gravis Europe Support BBS was being set up, but they couldn't supply a number or even a contact. So anyone got any ideas. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 11:50:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Ngo Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #0 (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 12:11:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Ngo To: GUS Daily Digest Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #0 Hey, Glad to see the GUS Digest back up!! Did you guys recieve the special deal in the mail from Advanced Gravis w/ special deals on the MAX, Phoenix Joystick, and Keyboard? I'm thinking about buying the keyboard. It's a 4-octave, velocity sensitive, MIDI keyboard. It's comes with speakers, MIDI Adaptor, and Windows software which teaches you how to play the piano. It's only $155! Is that a good price? Anyone out there have it? What's your opinions on it? Can you really learn how to play? Thanks for any and all advice. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 15:45:46 -1000 (GMT-10:00) From: Paul Murgatroyd Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #1 Gee, I had long forgotten that I was still on this list...until I remembered that it vanished. Well, my GUS has finally found its place...in slot 4 of my brother's DX/2-66 :-( I never could get the GUS and the PAS16 working together 100%..as it turned out, the sound was no problem. The CD-ROM interface side of my PAS16 refused to work under OS/2 (it worked with DOS and Linux). Removing the GUS solved the problem, but created another one...I am now stuck with an FM sound card again :-( I have been eyeing the UltraSound Max in the local store, and I nearly bought it, were it not for that fact that it has no SCSI CD-ROM interface on it. When I heard my GUS with DOOM (on my brother's machine), I was really upset to have to let it go :-( Well, I am sure that my next card will be another GUS. I am thinking about selling this whole system at the end of the year anyway, so maybe then I can start fresh, and get it right th first time :-) =============================================================================== Paul Murgatroyd E-Mail : s1114@kowande.Bond.edu.au Student Residence : dreamer@rip.it.Bond.edu.au Bond University IRC : MouseTrap Gold Coast, 4229, AUSTRALIA Phone : +61-75-954-649 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 02:47:32 +0100 From: Vince - The Almighty One Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #1 On Sat, 8 Oct -1, GUS Server wrote: > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 17:09:16 -0500 (CDT) > From: rwright@dhostwo.convex.com (Randy Wright) > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #0 > > | From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct > | Subject: -= ANNOUNCEMENT =- The GUS Daily Digest is back! > > Thanks, Vince! What a pleasant surprise, to find the digest waiting > in my mail. Just last week I was wondering if it would ever return. > Although the announce arrived as Volume 0 #0, I hope we'll again > pick up numbering the volume & issues as before. The last one > I received was V14 #12 back in June. > > -- > Randy Wright Usmail: Convex Computers > Phone: (214) 497-4868 3000 Waterview Pky. > Email: rwright@convex.com P.O. Box 833851 > Richardson, TX 75083-3851 > You're Welcome Randy! Nice hearing from you again! :-) I guess I need the volume and issue numbers of whatever on general, sdk, music digests for the last one that was sent before I took over. > > Date: Sat, 08 Oct 1994 18:22:27 CDT > From: mcavity@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #5 > > Test... > anyone know what the -gus -gus1 -gus2 swiches do? > Hey Mike, Just to let ya know that you have been seen and heard by approx 1500 people on the GUS Daily Digest! ^_^ > > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 16:06:52 MDT > From: "Bryan Brown" > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V14 #25 > > Hi All you Gusers, > > Vince, thanks for running the digest I've missed it. Take care > all and keep on Gussin > > Bryan > Thought for the day: > Anatomy (n): something everyone has, but which looks > better on a girl. -- Bruce Raeburn. > Hey Brian, You're very welcome! Now let's hope everyone will keep the digests alive and folks, convince others to get a GUS! > > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 12:24:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: sabe@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Shige Abe) > Subject: Linux > > Glad GUS Daily Digest is back! ^_^ > Hi Shige, Yep, I'm glad to take over and run it too! I run both FreeBSD and Linux so I maybe able to help ya out, throw your questions! > > Date: Sat, 08 Oct 1994 19:57:45 -0500 (CDT) > From: triplett@UTSW.SWMED.EDU (Terry L. Triplett) > Subject: Strange chirping w/new GUS drivers in Windows-How to get rid of? > > Hello everybody. What a shock to find the digests coming in again-I had not > realized how much I had been missing them. Yesssssssssssss!!!!!!! > > Thanks, > Terry > triplett@utsw.swmed.edu > Hi Terry, Really? Never knew anyone missed them that much. j/k. Anyways, glad to see your input to get the digest rolling! > > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 13:39:03 -0700 > From: blarren@uclink.berkeley.edu (Bart Adam Larrenaga) > Subject: The is back! Wow! > > Hooray! The Digest has returned! I'm SO happy! > > Now I have somewhere to ask questions again =] > > --Bart Larrenaga > blarren@uclink.berkeley.edu > Hi Bart, Thanks for the compliments! Now lets hope that there are more people joining the list to ask and answer questions.... > > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 12:41:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Dylan Nicolle > Subject: yes! Hopefully this will be the first question! > Hi Dylan, Actually, it was the first post when something went wrong and your mail returned with a error.... Sorry about that. Congratulations on being the first poster on the reborn digests! > > Date: Sun, 9 Oct 94 1:45:39 GMT+0200 > From: Walter Prins > Subject: Yes! The digest is back! > > Good to see the digest back up & running. I was beginning to wonder > if the GUS was losing its oomph... > > Anyways, does anybody know if Gravis will *ever* release the damn > OS/2 device drivers? (times a tickin....) > > Regards, > > ------------ > Walter Prins Email: prins@itu.sun.ac.za > Student Computer Science > University of Stellenbosch, South Africa > 'Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage' > -- Anais Nin > Hi Walter, Yep, the list is alive and kicking now! I hope the OS/2 drivers would be released soon too as well as the Mega-Em that's supposed to run with Protected Mode games. Happy GUSing everyone! Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 14:15:16 -0300 From: Brad Spencer Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #1 The GUS-DOOM FAQ!! Everyone seems to be asking about this, so here is a breif FAQ I wrote to help solve problems.. --------------------------------------------------------------- The Using Your GUS with Doom FAQ Brad Spencer (Bilbo) October 9, 1994 --------------------------------------------------------------- It shouldn't usually be a problem, but sometimes using your GUS with Doom can produce strange results, so here are some things to check if you have no sound or scratchy sound effects. 1. Everything tells me not to use the higher-than-8 IRQs with DOOM, but they work anyway? What gives? Some configurations work with the high IRQs, some don't. If it works but you are getting scratchy digitial sound effects, see below. 2. My music is cool, but the digital sound effects sound scratchy or just not the same as they did in Doom 1.2. What is wrong? Ok, this is the big one. For me, personally, Doom 1.2 was fine. No problems at all; no complaints. But then id's sound guy tried to add Sound Blaster AWEful 32 support, and we all know what a SB can do to nice sound. :) As a result, when I played the beta version 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6, the digital effects were terrible. Some people didn't have this problem, but I did (even with my revision 2.4 GUS :). After upgrading my Doom 1.2 to 1.666 with the patch, I scanned the FAQ (thanks, Hank!) and saw two options that were labelled "unknown": -GUS and -GUS1. I have found that with my 1 Meg GUS, a -GUS1 was all it took to restore the original clear sound effects! Thanks id, I guess, for fixing this :) Perhaps -GUS works for other Ultrasounds, but it did nothing for me. I still hear the occasional pop or click, but this seems to be a problem in the game rather than a GUS-specific problem. (It happens on Sound Blasters, too.) 3. I tried all that, and it still doesn't work. Well, here is where those IRQs come in again. If you used the -GUS1 option and still have scratchy sound, try changing you GF1 and MIDI IRQs to levels below 8. I can use 5,11 for Doom 1.2 with no problems, but I have to do use 11,5 and a -GUS1 with Doom 1.666. If you don't already have your IRQs set this level, or you need them at higher levels in order to use other programs, create a batch file such as this to run Doom: @ECHO OFF D: CD\GAMES\DOOM SET ULTRASND=240,7,7,11,5 (select GF1 IRQ=11, MIDI IRQ=5) C:\ULTRASND\ULTRINIT.EXE DOOM -GUS1 SET ULTRASND=240,7,7,5,11 (select original IRQ settings) C:\ULTRASND\ULTRINIT.EXE * NOTE * It seems that this _ONLY_ works with the 11,5 setting! If you find any more setting that work, please mail me! This is where the easy configuration of the GUS comes in handy. You can change the setup on the fly with no problems at all. If you still have scratchy sound . . . well, wait for the next FAQ! :) --- END I hope this helps! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Brad Spencer - Bilbo - spencer@ug.cs.dal.ca - Dalhousie University "Everybody is Kung-Fu Fragging . . ." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 1994 20:19:24 CDT From: mcavity@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #1 The GUS List Is back! COOL!! well Thats it for now... Mcavity@panam.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 14:16:51 +0800 (WST) From: sjm@it.com.au (Simon Mackinlay) Subject: GUS support under Linux *Really* glad to see the daily digest back and running... good work folks. I just thought I'd drop by and offer my address as somewhere to send GUS/Linux general problems - been hacking about with linux for near on 3 months now and I reckon I could answer a fair few of the queries that'll pop here :) Cheers, and *thanks* for the digest, much appreciated. -- Simon (sjm@it.com.au) "...I don't mind if I get broken, I don't mind if I get fixed..." - Jesus and Mary Chain, Snakedriver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 1994 04:47:48 -0400 From: Justin Liu Subject: I love the smell of burnt IC's in the morning... Hi, I had a problem recently with my GUS and now that this list is back up and running I guess I can ask here to see if anyone has any suggestions. I turned on my computer a few weeks ago and it was completely dead, refused to boot at all. As I sat there panicking I smelled something burning so I quickly shut it down. After playing around a bit, I was able to isolate the problem to my GUS. When I took it out everthing worked fine. I took a close look at the board and eventually found a burnt GAL on it. I think I am probably out of warranty, but is there a cheap way I can get it fixed? I have a rev. 2.2 board and the charred label on the chip said "U19_01." It's a surface mount chip so maybe I could take it out and plug in a new one. Or if I couls somehow get a hold of the file used to program the GAL, I could pick one up and program it myself. I guess GAL doesn't usually fail, so does that mean I have a blown capacitor or something somewhere? Any help anyone might be able to offer would be much appreciated. At the very least, maybe someone could give me the Gravis email address so I could ask them about my options. Thanks! Justin Liu dondon@mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 19:59:33 +0200 (EET) From: H{m{l{inen Jori Subject: Linux > have is GMOD. What other software should I consider installing. Definetly find s3mod player, which plays S3M, 4/6/8-channel MODS. s3mod player has alpha GUS code, but it works nice. Take no CPU power from my Linux configuration (top says so). But if I put it to normal mixing, it takes 50% (or 90% with oversampling and top quality). > Last question, how does GMOD compare to DOS module players? I have seen an old version of GMOD. The version I tested didn't play modules correctly. Almost every effect sounded wrong. > Glad GUS Daily Digest is back! ^_^ Me also, my world felt empty without this.. :) --------------------------------- Gravis UltraSound - ET4000/W32i 2MB Jori H{m{l{inen, h149373@cc.tut.fi 486DX/50 VLB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 19:46:03 +0000 From: Karsten Rohrbach Subject: Re: Linux GMod In my opinion, GMOD under Linux is one of the best ModPlayers around. It even can be compared with DMP and Inertiaplayer. btw: Has anyone a good software for sampling/sample-editing under Linux/X? -- --== .:: :: :: :: Karsten Rohrbach, -alpha=/AXL ==-- --== .:::: :::: :: alpha@neutron.nacamar.de ==-- --== .:::::: :: :: :::::. Demo & Game Music / Sound/FX ==-- NACAMAR Helpdesk / System & FTP Administration Member of Legend Design ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 12:27:07 +0200 (EET) From: Harri S J Tuomela Subject: MIDI receiving problems... Hi all folks... My Windows 3.11 can't receive MIDI data at all. Dos programs (eg. Midifier) work instantly and Windows programs transmit MIDI data, but can't receive it. I've gone trough all the IRQ, DMA etc. settings. When the card is installed into my friend's 486, any problems doesn't appear. I'm suffering, because I'm composer and can't do what I want to do. I can't even save my synth sounds trough MIDI. Help me... Equipement info: 60 MHz Pentium (Intel PCI Baby AT motherboard), Diamond Stealth 64 videocard, Conner 420 Mb HD and Gravis Ultrasound MAX without memory extensions running Windows for Workgroups. Installed GUS software version is v3.53. Harri Tuomela ------------------------------ Date: 8 Oct 94 23:57 -0700 From: Thomas Wong Subject: NHL'95 with GUS support? + CDROM on GUS question.... Do I get to be the first to ask a game question on the newly revived GUS Digest.......? :) Has anyone with a GUS tried NHL'95 yet? I hear it has GUS native support. I don't have NHL'94 so I'm thinking of getting 95 since it has the GUS support. How is it? Worth the money? Especially since I'll also have to get a CD ROM drive since I hear it only comes in CD format. So it better be worth it..... Anyone using the CDROM daughterboard off the GUS to run their CDROM drive? I'm debating on whether to go with the daughterboard or buy a Adaptec scsi which seems to be the best choice out there for scsi even though I don't have any other scsi deviced in the works (yet). Any advantage of getting the daughterbiard other than saving a slot? Any advantage in getting an Adaptec or other scsi cards? Thanks. Thomas. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 16:58:07 -700 (PDT) From: Matt Bachand Subject: OS/2 3.0!!! Message-ID: I am a loyal GUS user since it first debuted! I loved it and still do. I have an original! GOt it before star controll 2 came out... anyway, there is a new version of OS/2 COming out thursday! Version 3.0! This has so many features and such. To my point. Is there any word on OS/2 3.0 drivers in the works? I hope so. OS/2 is the way of the future, GUS should get a head start (Actually catch up) and put out some OS/2 3.0 drivers. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 11:10:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Subject: OS/2 and GUS I doubt that OS/2 drivers by Gravis will be made soon. On the good note, IBM is releasing a new OS/2 that is compatible up to Windows for Workgroups v3.11, and it can use the *386 drivers, so that means that OS/2 can use existing GUS drivers for windows (but no native OS/2 drivers). This means that Windows sounds and midi will work when shelled by OS/2. There is a beta version (called Warp Beta 2) available for user testing that can be ordered from IBM (on CD or floppy) for $15, or it can be downloaded from Compuserve. Peter. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 94 14:14:31 +0200 From: tjakobs@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl (THEO_JAKOBS TEL.62667) Subject: Quarantine SOUND PROBLEMS Hi.. Has anybody out there heard quarantine (the game like doom but with a cab) with the GUS, because when i select the gus the sound is coming out like cracking shit... I think the game evene didn't work for me until i copied the DOS4GW 1.8 over the existing dos4gw... Andre Jakobs MicroBrain Technologies Inc. ------------------------------ Date: 09 Oct 94 09:01:15 EDT From: "Joakim Erdfelt" Subject: SerfCity & GUS well folks... SerfCity by SSI/BlueByte supports GUS !! However you gotta slam some sense into the install program to get it to look for the AIL drivers in the right place. SerfCity is sorta a cross between Populous and SimCity. A medieval setting, lots of little serfs runing around on your beck and call building, waging war, fishing, etc... (real addictive) Music & Sound are good, not mindblowing. :-) If you need any help getting the GUS to work. drop me a line. i'll mail you back the right way. or catch me on IRC (nick:just_joe channel:#doom) -Joakim - joakim.erdfelt@office.wang.com - erdfeltl@iia.org - IRC:just_joe- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 15:25:58 -0300 From: dbrodie@nbnet.nb.ca (Damon Brodie) Subject: syndicate and sbos? Hi, I've just reinstalled that cool game syndicate and it won't work anymore... I've installed the old sbos drivers for it, and even with the GUS-SYND patch it reboots the computer and I have to do a really hard cold boot. Yeah, I went through this a long time ago too.. But back then the patch worked great! Whats am I doing wrong? What should I do? Thanks in advance for the tips.... Damon Brodie __________________________________________________ | | | |dbrodie@nbnet.nb.ca | Economics | |n0di@unb.ca | University of New Brunswick | |____________________|_____________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 20:39:36 GMT From: sue.lane@gusngolf.com (Sue Lane) Subject: Thank You!! Vince, Thank you for bring back the Gus Digest! It has been sorely missed by many, including me!! Sue Gus 'N Golf BBS..(708) 369-9183...Chicago Metro..14.4..24hrs.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 11:35:55 +0930 From: Andrew Shellshear Subject: The art of destroying a GUS the easy way. Message-ID: <9410100205.AA00671@hfrd.dsto.gov.au> How to get a "cannot detect card" error. 1. Plug an external line-level output into the microphone input. 2. Turn up the volume. OK, this is extremely dumb and I have no excuses. But this is the kind of dumb thing I imagine other people may have tried as well. Is it time to buy a new GUS? A matter of replacing a resistor? I'll give anybody who can help me get my card working a copy of version 0.5 of my "Microphone to MIDI" program which I was working on when it blew up. At the moment it will take input from line-in or microphone and convert it into MIDI out. Requires GUS, MIDI connector and MIDI device (eg. Electric Piano). Works in DOS only. This is not a bribe, it's a sneak preview. I'll probably release it as freeware when I get to version 1.0. (I'm sure that somebody must have tried this before!) Andrew. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 00:29:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "C.Moore" Subject: Try Number 2... yay! Yesyesyesyesyesyesyes! Finally! This is great! Thank you very much for getting it going again, I found the gus list the most informative and useful mailing list I've ever been on. I guess that was all I had to say. =) chris p.s. I just installed the 3.53 disks, and now I'm getting the pauses, skips, and echo at the start of windows that everyone else was talking about before, but I never got. Any solutions? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 01:13:17 -0700 From: "Paul Ho" Subject: Ultrasnd Max? Just got this slick ad from Gravis on the Ultrasnd Max. It did not give much info. For those of you that already have one of these, any info would be appreciated. Thanks! -- USENET is like Tetris for people who still remember how to read. ------------------------------ Date: 09 Oct 94 09:21:11 EDT From: "Joakim Erdfelt" Subject: VBE/AI for GUS ?? I've been following this VBE/AI (VESA Bios Extensions - Audio Interface) since it was proposed at the Game Developers conference in 1993. Has anything come of it ? Is it still hopefull of smashing the "This card needs to be Sound Blaster compatible" syndrome ? If so, will gravis provide us with a VBE/AI driver (or ROM for the card) ? Or, will some soul like Jayeson have to make it ? The only PUBLIC news i've caught of it is... id software : after stateing how much that they hate the current sound guy they will make the Quake sound engine based on the VBE/AI v1.0 specs. unisoft : the guys that make UNIVESA, that one device driver/tsr that give about 100 older video cards VESA graphics capabilities, have announced that they have a VBE/AI driver in BETA stages right now. Game Developer Magazine : just started covering it. letting people know about it, how to use it, where to get the specs. New Media Magazone : about 3 months ago mentioned VBE/AI and wrote up a article explined it's strengths and possible weaknesses. Am I dreaming? Is this ever going to be a reality? Will my vision of a soundcard market based on TECHNOLOGY instead of SOUNDBLASTER SUPPORT ever be realized ? -Joakim - joakim.erdfelt@office.wang.com - erdfeltl@iia.org - IRC:just_joe- Oh BTW : Creative Labs doesn't like VBE/AI. (I wonder why?) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 17:46:42 -0500 From: bcorfman@castaway.cc.uwf.edu (Brandon Corfman) Subject: Windows WAVs Since I installed the most recent Windows drivers and the update, I have had problems with the WAVs playing under Windows, specifically some of the longer ones used with Microsoft Arcade. I tried some of the suggestions in earlier digests, about setting the buffer size differently. However, this helps only slightly and sound still cuts out after maybe a sec or two. Does anyone know what to do? This ticks me off because MODs sound better and WAVs stink. With older drivers, MODs were lame and WAVs were good. Alas. Thank you, Vince, for the digest. It is already much appreciated. Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 12:07:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy B Martin Subject: Xcom and Gus Excerpts from GUS: > 1)Has anyone gotten XCOM:UFO Defense to work with the GUS? The Microprose rep > > who responded to my query said a patch would be available soon, but I haven't > seen it. Is it out yet? A lot of people can only get the Gus to work for a little while, i myself could only get the gus to work until i enter battlescape. I work at MPS and i talked to some people there; apearently the guys in QA at MPS said they didn't always have the same problem, but they did say that a patch would be forthcoming. I too haven't heard from them since. GUS support isn't a big thing with them. I think the only reason it was on XCOM is because XCOM is a UK release and the GUS world is more influencial in the UK than here. -tim [ Xeltar+@CMU.EDU ] "In 30 seconds, you'll be dead. I'll blow this place up and be home in time for cornflakes." -Mr Cohegan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Oct 1994 14:10:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Will race for food Subject: Yet again, OS/2 GUS users get the high hard one from Gravis Hello all, Gravis, those great user-support types, have, not surprisingly, yet to release an OEM driver for OS/2. I purchased my GUS about a month after they came out, and already there were promises made for an OS/2 driver 'in a couple of months'. Now, the Warp II version is out- about 20 cards are supported- but, at least according to what I've read/seen, no GUS support. The gentleman at Gravis informed me that this has been a long battle, to get those idiots at Gravis to get the driver finished, with continued hints at an 'Alpha'. Hmmmm.....this driver is taking Gravis longer to write than Microsoft is taking to write Chicago (oops, Cairo, no, it's Windows 95, sorry, I thought it was NT, nope, I mean - oh, who cares?). Since the guy at Gravis said he has trouble convincing the people to finish the driver up, I suggest e-mailing Gravis tech support directly. The address is (I think) TECH1@GRAVIS.COM. There Windows support might be good, but calling their OS/2 support sh!tty is putting that word to shame. Meanwhile, Mr. Manley's drivers are wonderful, and they hint at things that Gravis probably hasn't even dreamed about yet, like SB emulation in the DOS settings.....too bad Gravis won't buy these, they're probably better than they could write. But, they're shareware, and while this isn't Manley's fault, look at it this way: "Well, we support about 90% of our installed base, but you other 10% need to spend MORE $$$ because deep down inside, we really don't give a rat's ass about you". What's next?? registering mouse-pad drivers?? Again, Manley deserves $$$, but Gravis are stupid for not buying the damn thing, same idea as Mega-Em.... Jeff ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V0 #2 ******************************