GUS Daily Digest Fri, 14 Oct 94 9:37 PST Volume 15: Issue 7 Today's Topics: 486 dx2 80 Alone in the Dark II Bad MIDI mapping CDROM audio connections, MEGEM DOOM---again FAQ Maintainer GF2 Gravis collection CD-Rom GUS & Synd. cd-rom? GUS ADPCM for Windows? GUS Daily Digest V0 #2 GUS Daily Digest V15 #3 GUS Daily Digest V15 #4 GUS Daily Digest V15 #5 (2 msgs) GUS Daily Digest V15 #6 (3 msgs) HELP! In favor of the mailing list Microcosm and the GUS. Mike problems Mitsumi connection to Gus (2 msgs) MONO mike, Chris, MONO !!! MONO Recording on MAX... On Being a "Digest" Origin's (lac of) GUS support OS/2 drivers and other stuff Problems recording with a GUS MAX Rise of the Robots Sampling, Samples and UT 1.61? Subject: Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:39:34 -0500 (CDT) From: seligman@netcom.com (Scott Seligman) Subject: Re: 486 dx2 80 > I ordered a 486dx 2 66 and will receive it by next week. > I saw amd started producing 486 dx2 80, and was wondering whether it > was any hazardous for the intel 486 dx2 66 to run at 80 MHz by changing > the mother board setup. > A friend of mine told me the chip was protected and would stop working > before to get damaged. This would mean i can try safely, provided that > i put a large fan on the cpu. (the case has 2 fans, the 486 has one) > I've personally done this with a couple of machines with out any problems (Just make sure there is a fan *on* the cpu itself). And your friend is right, if you try to push an Intel cpu too far it will simply not function (Doesn't damage it as far as I can tell) > However, i prefer to ask many people before to fuck the motherboard. > I saw in PC Mag (US edition) from sept 30th a intel pentium 90 which burnt > when ran at 108 MHz. It also damaged the motherboard.... > Doesn't surprise me, the pentium cpu's are pretty close to burning up when they're running at the recommended speed, much less twenty percent above the proper speed. -- | `seligman@netcom.com` | alt. = Anarchists, | | `seligmn@metronet.com` | Lunatics, and Terrorists | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 12:04:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Subject: Alone in the Dark II To the AITDII game player(s): You can get (FM) music out of Alone in the Dark II, but not out of going through the install program of the game. First, run SBOS, and then run the install. You will be able to select for sound effects. Then exit install. Now whenever you want to run the game, load sbos, and then type in adlibm (in your AITDII directory) then run the game, and you will have FM music as well. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 11:54:49 -0600 (MDT) From: rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Ryan Korniloff) Subject: Bad MIDI mapping Maybe it's just me (I don't THINK it is) but it seems to me that Gravis STILL has not been able to get the MIDI map correct on either General MIDI OR Sound Canvas. Another example I just ran into is with Day Of The Tentacle. If you select Gen. MIDI instead of Sound Canvas some instruments are different than with the Sound Canvas setting. The Sound Canvas setting sounds really weird to the point of being annoying. Can anyone give me any insite into this??? What is the latest update date or the GUS (software)? -- Ryan Korniloff -- rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 14:12:39 EDT From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 13-Oct-1994 1412" Subject: Re: CDROM audio connections, MEGEM >From: wildermu@cod.nosc.mil (Jim Wildermuth) >Subject: CDROM audio connections, MEGEM > >Hi, > I just upgraded my system with a CDROM. I would like to make the >audio conections go to the GUS but the manual does not list those >connections. I don't remember the pin order, but someone probably will. However, there are two grounds plus left and right. With a pair of earphones on, you can easily identify which is which by touching them with your finger. You'll hear nothing when you touch the grounds. You'll hear a hum in the left phone when you touch left, etc. Burns ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 20:58:57 CDT From: cardona@rwasic23.aud.alcatel.com (Gabe Cardona) Subject: DOOM---again First I'd like to say I'm glad the digest is back; it is a very useful forum for questions and general information about our sound card.... Now, has anyone else experienced difficulty with the registered version of DOOM??? (V 1.2) The music sounds fine, but the sound effects don't work consistently. It seems that sometimes everything works fine and it will work fine for en entire session, but later (in another session) the sound effects get cut-off or don't sound at all. I have to re-boot several times to get them to work again; sometimes I have to let the machine sit for a while before they will work properly. Now, I upgraded to v 1.666, and the sound effects are EVEN WORSE than before. Before, they would at least work some of the time, now they just sound terrible all the time. It sounds like they are clipped or distorted heavily. I've tried different interrupts, DMA's, etc. all to no avail... Any suggestions??? I called Id technical support and the guy told me I needed NEW DRIVERS for my GUS. When I told him that the GUS only needs drivers for windows, he told me to RE-INSTALL DOOM. I think he's as clueless as the people who re-wrote the sound code... BTW, I've tried the -GUSx options, to no avail, tonight I'm going to try slowing down the ISA bus..... BTW, everything still works flawlessly with the shareware version 1.2.... My machine is a 25 MHz 386 with DOS 5 and 4M ram... Thanks, Gabe Cardona ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 22:13:58 +0100 From: Vince Subject: Re: FAQ Maintainer On Wednesday October 12, 1994 - Paul hit the keyboard and said: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 13:15:42 BST From: csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net (Paul Cunnell) Subject: FAQ Maintainer ? Does anyone know who is supposed to be maintaining the GUS FAQ nowadays ? The last version I have was done by Matthew Bernold (MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu), but I am informed that he is no longer reachable there. Paul. -- Paul Cunnell CSFB FOS (csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net) +44 71 516 2946 Hi Paul, According to Dave Debry, it's meb117@psuvm.psu.edu Maybe you need to use lower case for the username in the e-mail address. Hope this helps. Happy GUSing! Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:51:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "MR George M." Subject: Re: GF2 Greetings fellow GUSians /GU*SHEE*ANS/, First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to the one man (or men) who helped bring back the GUS Daily Digest. Thank you, thank you. Now back to the subject: If the rumoured GF2 chip will be coming shortly, whether this year or next year, will the new GF2 chip: * Be available as an upgrade? In other words, can we trade in our old GUS cards along with some extra fees for the new GF2 model? * Will it feature a special effects chip for Reverb and Chorus effects? * How much memory can the GF2 handle? * Will it have a better mixing rate at 32 voices (44.1kHz hopefull)? * Will it kick AWE-32 butt? (I think so 8-)) * Will it have a wierd fancy name attached to the old name? (like UltraSound FX, UltraSound Studio, UltraSound Blaster (yuck!), UltraSound Millenium, etc... etc...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:39:06 GMT From: Mike Geileskey Subject: Re: Gravis collection CD-Rom Another Gravis CD collection can be found on the November 1994 CoverDisk version of PC-Zone (a UK publication). This contains the latest Gravis upgrade, as well as many software upgrades and Assembly '94 music demos. I'm sure overseas users can get their hands on it...... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 08:36:08 EDT From: alain@dgbt.doc.ca (Alain Bergeron) Subject: GUS & Synd. cd-rom? Hi, Could anyone confirm that the GUS will work fine, with Syndicate CD-ROM version. I've seen patches for this game, but I'd like confirmation that they work with both versions (3.5" and CD). Thanks Alain alain@dgbt.doc.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:17:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Chern Fang Subject: GUS ADPCM for Windows? Only USS uses gus's hardware ADPCM compression/decompression. Is any software out there for GUS ADPCM for Windows? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 14:41:35 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #2 YAHOOO! The Digest is back. I'll sorta miss all of the fun chaps on csipsa - Rich Heimblitz, Vlad Edberg, you know, but it's fun to be among friends again! And back goes the "incredible Internet support" point for us! OK, I want to break the Doom rumours. The only differences I was able to perceive in Doom 1.666 (I went up from 1.2), sound-wise, were the powerup effect (*WHHNG* or something), an optimized DMXGUS.INI which saved my poor fingers from typing -file gus1m.wad everytime I ran Doom, and less bass for the effects (I have that absolute hearing thingee, so don't you go flamin' me for that!). Our local Doom buff (who plays on my PC since I have the GUS) says Doom is much faster. Basically the first effect is slow as hell (wocka wocka) and from then on there's no slowdown. When you're using an SB and there's a party around you the frame rate goes WAYDOWN, but it just keeps going and going on my PC. Maybe I'm lucky, dunno, but lay off with id. Yossi. |IN REAL LIFE: |IN PHYSICAL REALITY: |lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il |Yossi Oren of "Ron" |Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"), |Alumim, D. N. Negev, |Windows user and Doomer. |ISRAEL. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 15:03:28 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #3 >I just installed the 3.53 GUS disk set, and everything works fine, except that >when I try to run SBOS, I get this error: > >Invalid (C; > >Error on load of patch library (C: That's an AG slipup. The file you were talking about is dated 1/1/80. You need to manually restore it (it's an install option), and then you're home free. Yossi. |IN REAL LIFE: |IN PHYSICAL REALITY: |lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il |Yossi Oren of "Ron" |Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"), |Alumim, D. N. Negev, |Windows user and Doomer. |ISRAEL. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 15:07:21 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #4 >When I play DOOM 2 (v.1666) all the sound effects are not so much 'scratchy' >but rather they tend to echo and fade away. Like every single effect played >just repeats away until it fades. This is a clear-cut case of IRQ conflict. The IRQ trigger Doom has set up on the GUSRAM to make the GUS tell it to stop playing (whew!) isn't getting home for some reason. Move to a different IRQ. Yossi. PS Again - Doom has set up an IRQ on the GUS, and it isn't working. |IN REAL LIFE: |IN PHYSICAL REALITY: |lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il |Yossi Oren of "Ron" |Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"), |Alumim, D. N. Negev, |Windows user and Doomer. |ISRAEL. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 15:21:06 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5 >My question is two-fold. Is there a way to disable the "General MIDI" >portion of Ultramid, and do the 32 bit AIL drivers for GUS allow me to >still use my SCC-1? Sure! Just use the GUS library (GF1DIGI.DLL?) for digital effects, and the General MIDI library (GENMIDI.DLL?) for MIDI. It's the old copy-around-the- files stunt we're used to from older AIl ames. Yossi. |IN REAL LIFE: |IN PHYSICAL REALITY: |lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il |Yossi Oren of "Ron" |Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"), |Alumim, D. N. Negev, |Windows user and Doomer. |ISRAEL. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 15:28:32 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5 >To start it off: there's some kind of trick to getting uninterrupted sound >in windows .avi video sound but i don't know it. ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/ (hmmm) developr(??) /drg/multimedia/vfw11a.zip. Now you know. Yossi. |IN REAL LIFE: |IN PHYSICAL REALITY: |lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il |Yossi Oren of "Ron" |Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"), |Alumim, D. N. Negev, |Windows user and Doomer. |ISRAEL. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:41:10 -0500 From: Mike Surgeon Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #6 > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 16:38:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: David John Walton > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5 > > > (10) Make sure you use the latest Windows Drivers (gus0042.zip) if you are > > having problems with Norton Desktop for Windows or Workgroup for Windows. > > Does this fix HP Dashboard, too? I heard it has similar problems. > > Dave > Yes, it does (an HP Dashboard user). Mike Surgeon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 18:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Phat Hong Tran Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #6 On Thu, 13 Oct -1, GUS Server wrote: > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 12:57:03 PDT > From: wildermu@cod.nosc.mil (Jim Wildermuth) > Subject: CDROM audio connections, MEGEM > > Hi, > I just upgraded my system with a CDROM. I would like to make the > audio conections go to the GUS but the manual does not list those connections. As I recall (it's been a while since I had to think about the CD connectors), the GUS' CD header pins are R G G L if you hold it with component side to you and edge connector down. (R = right, L = left, G = ground). > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 10:17:07 +0800 (GMT+0800) > From: FLAT^^TOP > Subject: GUS CDrom ! > > hey ! > > this GUs CDrom thing in PC Zone really has me thinking... [brainstorm about a GUS software CD-ROM deleted] There does seem to be a demand for such a thing. Right now, the software on the UltraSound Experience CD-ROM was put on as an after thought ("Hey, we have 200 MB free after all that audio....") and the CD-ROM itself is being sold almost at cost (I think--haven't been in the loop for a while now). > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 19:23:30 -0500 (CDT) > From: Chris Bongaarts > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #4 > > In the GUS Daily Digest you write: > >Second, there is a CODEC chip on the GUSMAX. Hardly any programs can utilize > >it, even though the GUSMAX installed a driver for it under Windows (check the > >Control Panel!). > > > > The CODEC is a DAC, not a DSP. It makes the digital sound; it doesn't > do effects of any kind. It's a bit more than that. It's a DAC/ADC with a few compression algorithms. > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 09:27:39 -0400 (EDT) > From: Harry C Pulley > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5 > > In regards to a few topics in v15 #5: > > Smooth animation in Windows: I have found that reducing the playback > buffer to 2048 (or even 1024 or 512) helps greatly. I can now run Adjusting the DMA buffer sizes is always a good thing to try if you're not getting reasonable performance from an app. You can change DMA buffer sizes without rebooting Windows if you don't "fix" them. Generally, for single-track recording or playback, large buffer sizes are desireable, but for audio that is playing with animation or software mixing, small buffer sizes might be needed. > Next Doom II: sounds fine to me. I have only had my GUS MAX for a while > but Doom I sounds as good as Doom II to me. I like Doom I's musical > score better but it is not a question of quality. There has been a level It's not the music, but the sound effects that are poorer in the newer DOOMs. DOOM 1.2 let the GUS do the mixing of the audio channels, while the later versions mix the channels in software. > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 09:31 -0400 > From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5 > > >Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 12:44:50 EDT > >From: AdvGravis@aol.com > >Subject: Re: #3(3) GUS Daily Digest V1... > > > >Hi people! Glad to see the digest is back up and running. I have a few > >comments regarding the digests over the weekend: > > >(1) I know the OS/2 drivers have been coming for a looooooooong time, but I > >can honestly say they will be released sometime this year. I do not have the > >stats as to what they will offer (since I know nothing about OS/2), but the > >programming team is making great progress. Hope to have more definate dates > >in the next little while. > > Sure, I believe this. Really, I do. Oh and would you like to see my collection > of other mail from Gravis saying the OS/2 drivers will be available Real Soon > Now? I bought my card with the original Electronic Arts promo and was promised > OS/2 drivers within 3 months. Sure has been a loooooooooong 3 months. Unless these mythical drivers offer something beyond Robert Manley's, I'd sure like to > see some explaination of why Gravis hasn't simply licensed his. BTW, you've > missed the window to get these drivers into OS/2 3.0. So, do we at least get to > beta-test these drivers? FWIW, Gravis had not been working on OS/2 until the past summer. (They were planning to for a long time, but other projects overrode OS/2 in priority.) But over the summer, Forte had a preliminary version of the OS/2 driver already working, and Gravis also put one of their own programmers on the OS/2 project. (The programmer Gravis placed on OS/2 is an unabashed OS/2 fanatic, and very competent.) This is not to say that the public will see an OS/2 driver any time soon. > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 06:05:00 -0500 (CDT) > From: Antonio Guia > Subject: midi in/out > [...] > recording. As for whether the gus can input to any channel other than 1, > i'm not sure since i only have 1 keyboard and even if i had two, i > couldn't play more than one at a time anyways. I never tried anything > more than channel 1, i'd just record channel 1 then rename it before > overlaying the next track. I believe the GUS MIDI port will take input from any MIDI channel. However, it's the sender that decides which MIDI channel to send events on. Most keyboards seem to default to sending messages on channel 1. > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 15:55:03 -0400 > From: gord@smos.bc.ca (Gord Wait S-MOS Systems Vancouver Design Center) > Subject: Midi Windows probs > > Does anyone else notice dropped notes in windows while playing midi > files? I would like to know if I need to fix my setup or wait for Gravis > to fix the windows drivers once again. It's a driver problem, as before. Gravis will eventually move over to a new MIDI kernel for their Windows driver, hopefully leaving the dropped notes problem behind (it's not a hardware problem). > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: Sky Woo > Subject: MOD4WIN and MODUS > [...] > What I'm really contributing to the digest is my opinion on > Windows MOD players. I personally think MOD4WIN is a complete waste of a > GUS. It does not use the GUS' onboard memory or processor to mix the > music. In addition, MOD4WIN is a CPU hog compared to MODUS. Taking some I use MODUS exclusively to play MODs in Windows. All the other software- mixing players are just too cpu-intensive for my liking. Of course, with MODUS being as imperfect as it is, I try to avoid playing MODs in Windows as much as possible. > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 23:01:42 GMT > From: aswani@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert Aswani) > Subject: The UltraSound Experience > > Have you all heard this? It's amazing! I'm glad to hear you liked it. I've had my nose up against the demo for a period of about three months and can no longer keep a healthy perspective where it's concerned. (i.e. it drives me bonkers now :) There are many things I would do differently... > The whole presentation has been made brilliantly and professionally. It was > authored by HSC Interactive. Phat H Tran had a big part in making it. Correction. HSC Interactive was the authoring software we used, but the demo itself was done completely in-house except for some borrowed (with permission) pieces of music. (The lens-flare of which Dave and I are so proud was done in Adobe Photo Shop. :) > Anybody who ever doubted the UltraSound's capabilities, and have held > themselves back from buying one, will not doubt it anymore after they have > seen and heard this presentation. They will no longer restrain themselves > from buying an UltraSound. I wonder, though, if the demo is as effective at converting the neophyte as it appears to be at preaching to the converted. BTW, thanks to Vince for starting up the digest again, and thanks to Thomas Wong for maintaining Epas. Things appeared a little dead in GUS land for a while. BTW2, I can't answer email or respond to news as much as I used to due to school work. I recently switched into the math faculty at the University of Waterloo (ya know... WATCOM, WATFOR77, Maple V, etc. :) and am finding my schedule quite packed. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:58:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Damian Frank Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #6 > I saw it mentioned that Origin now natively supports the GUS. This is > great news, but is it available in any of the Origin stuff that currently > is out (such as Wing Armada, etc?)? And of course the biggie, will it be > native in Wing III? Thanks for any info... Armada does NOT support the GUS natively, and I cannot seem to get digital audio to work at all with MegaEm, though the music is nice. I haven't tried SBOS. My thunderboard, a cheap sb clone, won't even do fm music and digital sound together. POOR sound support here. However, WCIII is alleged to use the new HMI drivers, and, hence, supports the GUS natively. YES! System Shock does as well (support, that is. I don't know if it uses HMI), quite nicely at that. Damian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 00:14:00 -0500 From: adam.lloyd@ablelink.org (Adam Lloyd) Subject: HELP! Message-ID: <1e.77814.50@ablelink.org> Hi, okay, I have a Mitsumi CDROM, a GUS with 1 meg, and a game that doesn't work its Where in the World is CARMEN SAN DIEGO: DELUXE it is a CD version. I am using SBOS v3.82 to emulate the sound blaster, the game starts, plays a little music, and die's. Now, when I don't use the SBOS the game works just, fine. any suggestions? could be a conflict with the Mitsumi & SBOS? I've tried MEGAEM it worked but I only got SOUND EFX, I had no music whatsoever. any help would be greatly apprieciated! Adam. Internet E-mail: adam.lloyd@ablelink.org Echoing From: Toronto, ONT. CANADA. --- ~ QMPro 1.50 11-1075 ~ (A)bort, (R)etry, (S)mack the friggin thing7 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "C.Moore" Subject: In favor of the mailing list I don't know about y'all, but it is really hard to scroll through the huge digest and pick out what I want... I would prefer to have the messages come individually and have the option to go to digest if I so desire... Count this one vote for the mailing list. chris p.s. if it's too much for the current listowner to do, it's really easy for me to set up a mailing list. I don't know how many people would want to subscribe to both, though (the digest would have to subscribe too, so that all the messages would go to it as well... rambling...) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 10:17:58 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: FLAT^^TOP Subject: Microcosm and the GUS. anyone knows how to get microcosm to work with the GUS ? i've been havin problems trying to even start it up... 8( -- /======\ | kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg, MsWFWG, GUSmax, Kelvin 64, & Supra v.Fc 28.8 user | \========/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 14:53:00 CDT From: "Hering, Gregory L (Greg)" Subject: Mike problems I wanted to try out the audio recording abilities of the GUS. First I bought a $5 Radio Shack cassette recorder mike (200 ohm dynamic) and hooked it up to the line in. The recordings were scratchy so I returned the first mike and got a $12 Radio Shack 500 ohm dynamic mike . This is the impedence Gravis recommends but it is still scratchy. I have a 3.4 rev board which has stereo mike input but I have plugged the mike straight into it. I think this may be bad because it's a stereo input and only a mono mike, but maybe it only grounds out one channel and doesn't hurt it since it's an input. Anyone know? I suppose I need a mono to stereo adapter to do it right. So the problem is the recordings sound scratchy. It sounds ok when used with 'playfile' in the 'P.A.' mode, that is, both mike input and speaker output turned on, no recording. It sounds ok when recording too, but when I play back the recording I just made it sounds scratchy. Has anyone else had luck or problems with using the mike? The FAQ talks about 'being sure the mike is turned on in Windows'. How is this done? What driver is required to use the Sound Recorder utility that comes with Windows? [MCI] Sound is installed. Currently I can just barely get very low level distorted sounds and I know that I ought to be able to get better sound than this! When I bring up the Windows Mixer it seems that the left channel is at about 70% and the right channel is nearly off. It doesn't seem to remember the saved settings and even when it says L+R locked they're not! Anybody else got this problem? -- (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Greg Hering Senior Software Analyst Phone : (205) 730-7140 Aeronautical Systems, MSD FAX : (205) 730-7296 Intergraph Corporation E-Mail : glhering@ingr.com Huntsville, AL (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 20:03:37 +0100 From: Paal Andreassen Subject: Mitsumi connection to Gus > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:43:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: "David HL. Hoang" > Subject: Mitsumi connection to GUS > Hi everyone, I just bought a Mitsumi double speed CD-ROM drive and I was > wondering how I can connect the line-out of the CD-ROM into the GUS. The > connectors are different, so I can't just plug it into the GUS. I want to > be able to redirect the played CD into the GUS so I don't need to use a > headphone to connect to the Cdplayer. I have a GUS revision 3.4. I don't > have my manuals with me now, so if any help is possible without using th > manual would be appreciated. Thanks. If your Mitsumi CD-ROM is like mine it comes with a four lines cable. The cable is a follows: R G L G On the Gus you have two CD in connections, one three pin and one four pin. Gus 3-pin: R G L Gus 4-pin: R G G L You'll have to connect the cable to the three-pin connector like this: Cable: R G L G | | | Gus 3-pin : R G L This is a thight fit since the pins are of a bit different size, but it you are careful you should get it to work just fine (I did) R G L is short for Right Ground and Left (if you didn't understand that) Hope this helped Paal Andreassen Buskerud College, Department of Engineering, Institute of Computer Science ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 22:33:46 AST From: Jeremy McIntosh Subject: Mitsumi Connection To GUS >Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:43:44 -0700 (PDT) >From: "David HL. Hoang" >Subject: Mitsumi connection to GUS > >Hi everyone, I just bought a Mitsumi double speed CD-ROM drive and I was >wondering how I can connect the line-out of the CD-ROM into the GUS. The >connectors are different, so I can't just plug it into the GUS. I want to >be able to redirect the played CD into the GUS so I don't need to use a >headphone to connect to the Cdplayer. I have a GUS revision 3.4. I don't >have my manuals with me now, so if any help is possible without using th >manual would be appreciated. Thanks. Hi. I bought a cable at the local Computer Store for my Mitsumi double speed and my GUS. It costed about $8.00. They come in packages that say what sound card and what CD-Rom it works with... I naturally selected the one for GUS and Mitsumi. You could always cut the cable and *rig* something up :). I Forget the name of the company that manufactures those replacement cables.... Jeremy. KEEP SUPPORTING THE GUS!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:29:54 -0500 From: lala@interaccess.com (Imre Olajos) Subject: MONO mike, Chris, MONO !!! Hey, Chris! All I know is that I bought TWO cheap Radio Shack mikes for my old GUS. I personally soldered and put together a little splitter. This way I had a STEREO mike. If I shouted in the left mike, only the left channel sounded and when I shouted in the right-hand mike, only the right channel sounded. However, the exact same configuration did not work this way in my GUSMAX. When I shouted in the left mike, the left channel sounded. But when I shouted in the right mike, nothing came out. Alas, the GUS had stereo "mic in" jack, while the GUSMAX has only a mono "mic in" jack. BUT my point is that Advanced Gravis degraded an option in an upgrade! That's the kind of stuff that doesn't make sense to me! I wanted to make stereo samples from my hi-fi system AUX IN (connected to my GUS's mic in), but I guess, I can say goodbye to that... I still think the GUS is GREAT for its price! :) Keep pushing the GUSing! :) Imre OLAJOS (LaLa of TranSByte) lala@interaccess.com ___ __o 130 E George St, Apt 205 ___ _-\<,_ Bensenville, Illinois 60106 ___ (_)/ (_) U.S.A. (Chicago suburbs) Phone/fax/modem: 1 (708) 595-7038 _-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~ This month's best: JeAN-MicHEl JaRRe quote: "I have nothing against singers, as long as they keep their mouths shut!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:45:37 -0400 From: Xes Laro Subject: MONO Recording on MAX... Okay... Maybe my opinions are wierd on recoding in stereo, but for most INSTRUMENTS, there is very little diference in sound unless you use two mics in different places, which is do able to with adaptors, is a pain. Now, as for the standard GUS being mono input...They are now using pretty much the same mixing chip on the GUS and the MAX, therefore, since the SDK has yet to be updated (correct me if I am wrong) for the MAX and the new revision of the GUS, it could be possible that the new mixing chip is being used in the GUS too???? Now, my next question is why did they change it??? When the example of the car passing by was used, I started to think with a different perspective than before and started to get a little irritated. Why did they remove Stereo recording from the MAX??? Wouldn't that be considered a DOWNGRADE???? Gravis people help me out on this one could ya?? Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris McKillop "Happiness....is a warm gun..." Computer Engineering -The Beatles University of Waterloo, Canada cdmckill@novice.uwaterloo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:25:36 -0700 From: Dave Tweten Subject: On Being a "Digest" Don't get me wrong. I'm glad to see that someone has picked up the dropped Gus Daily Digest ball. It's just that the next step needs to be taken -- actually making it a digest. To the editor: Read carefully; there'll be a test at the end. Today the Gus Daily Digest actually included as an "article" the output from someone's vacation program, declaring that Fred is out of the office, he values your mail and he will answer it when he returns. Really! This (and at least 50% of the rest of the stuff in the Gus Daily Digest has no place in a digest. Digests (think of Readers Digest) are publications for people who lack some combination of the inclination, time or reading skills to "just read it all." On the Internet, they exist to rescue people from having to deal with the deluge of a mailing list. So far, the Gus Daily Digest is just the concatenation of all the messages in a mailing list, flotsam included. Please, I emplore the editor, EDIT! Now the test: If you read this message in the Gus Daily Digest, the editor has failed. Go back and read it again. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 01:42:38 -0100 (GMT-1:00) From: Joshua Felsteiner Subject: Origin's (lac of) GUS support I think there's been a mix-up here. As far as I know, Origin didn't and still doesn't support the GUS. I don't know if it plans to. The source of the error is perhaps the fact that there is GUS support in Origin's System Shock, but the key to understanding this one title is that it wasn't made by Origin, but it's merely distributed by it. The game itself was done by Looking Glass Technologies, and not Origin. Origin didn't release GUS support with Wing Commander Armada, although I think those two games came in about the same time. WCA was indeed done byy Origin, and that may explain the lack of GUS support. Keep on bashing Origin till it actually does support the GUS :) -------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP 2.6 fingerprint: E4 52 8D 12 61 27 7E 94 E4 81 14 C7 F1 AF 96 2C Finger for my PGP public key pine 3.89 joshua@phys1.technion.ac.il, Technion Institute of Technology, Israel -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 15:05:57 EDT From: Phil Longstaff Subject: OS/2 drivers and other stuff > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 11:09:21 -0700 > From: Derek Suzuki > Subject: Megaem and OS/2 > > For the guy who asked whether the new Megaem would work with OS/2, > I would think that it would be more effective to duplicate the Megaem > functionality in a VDD and tie this to the OS/2 driver settings. This > way every DOS session would have access to a virtual MT-32/SCC-1/SB, and > requests could be processed through the main device driver. This might > prevent some conflicts, and would probably be more efficient than running > Megaem itself in a DOS session. > So can anyone from Gravis shed some light on the subject? I agree completely (I am the guy). However, given the rabbit-like speed with which AG has written these drivers (I agree with the previous message in this digest in which they promised drivers RSN back in June of 1993), I am looking for anything which will give me some sound in my DOS sessions. I noticed in a later message that Robert Manley would contact them about putting the MegaEm functionality in a VDD. If they are not planning to do this and they let you do this, my eternal gratitude. > > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:43:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: "David HL. Hoang" > Subject: Mitsumi connection to GUS > > Hi everyone, I just bought a Mitsumi double speed CD-ROM drive and I was > wondering how I can connect the line-out of the CD-ROM into the GUS. The > connectors are different, so I can't just plug it into the GUS. I want to > be able to redirect the played CD into the GUS so I don't need to use a > headphone to connect to the Cdplayer. I have a GUS revision 3.4. I don't > have my manuals with me now, so if any help is possible without using th > manual would be appreciated. Thanks. Please post responses to the digest (or forward to me as well) as I am in the same boat. > > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 15:42:41 -0400 (EDT) > From: rjm@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca > Subject: OS/2 driver for GUS > > I am in the process of contacting Advanced Gravis to see if they want the > logic from MegaEm converted over to an OS/2 VDD (as it should). I'll let > the digest know what happens. > > Robert. As I said above, if AG is not planning this but will let you do it, my eternal gratitude. I think Robert Manley should be sent our collective thanks (and lots of registration cheques/checks) for filling the void left by Gravis. He may have been put into a lowsy position if, after spending a lot of his own time on helping people who were royally pissed off (and rightly so) at AG, they come out with some free drivers. Of course, he may have done a much better job than AG did. Who knows? Phil Longstaff, Motorola ISG, Mississauga Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:21:16 -0400 From: Ka-Ping Yee Subject: Problems recording with a GUS MAX When i originally got my GUS Max, i was unable to record properly. Using SoundStation, whenever i tried to record a .WAV (say off the CD or microphone) all i got from the input was FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00, which comes out as a deafening whine. Then i replaced my Windows drivers with a new set (5.34 i think) and recording works perfectly. But i run Linux, and i know i have the GUS Max sound driver installed correctly because it recognizes the Max at the right IRQ and port during kernel boot. And gmod plays fine. But if i try to record from /dev/dsp or /dev/audio, i get the old result... the data files look exactly like FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00.... What gives? Any help would be much appreciated. Ping ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "MR George M." Subject: Re: Rise of the Robots Where can I find the 5MB Rise of the Robots playable demo? I cannot find it at the ftp.uwp.edu site and I only found a .FLC demo at wuarchive.wustl.edu? As for other games, will Hardball IV have native GUS support? The text file on the demo says it will support GUS, but will it natively and not with some customized Mega-Em? The playable demos really flies on a 486-66, especially when the game is in 640x480x256 colors! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 23:02:47 CDT From: epyle@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Eric Pyle) Subject: Sampling, Samples and UT 1.61? Ok I got three things for you GUyS, First of all, can anyone give me some tips on making noisless samples? When I record a sample of my voice through the mic. I get a lot of noise over my voice...When I don't talk, there isn't much noise...until I start talking. Also I am looking for some good guitar/drum samples for an .ULT that I am composing... Any suggestions where I should rip/convert them from....I've tried converting .PAT files to .wav's or .uwf's but I get a lot of noise...I know that 1.6 supports .pat files, but it doesn't play them right... Lastly, Marc S. (of Ultra Tracker) told me that there was an ULtra Tracker 1.61 and it should be available...my question is...where? thanks for any suggestions...help...etc... Eric.....handleless ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 13:20:03 -0500 From: DMCATEER@LoyalistC.ON.CA Subject: Subject: Hello Gusers. It is now my firm belief that the good old days were using install disks ver. 3.11!! Since upgrading to 3.56, GUS and Windows hate each other's guts. Avi's that used to work now lock up. Program Manager sometimes comes up blank with error messages like "xxx.grp is invalid or damaged etc. etc ." and sometimes locks up when trying to exit Windows and clicks and chirps playing waves are now heard. Mods, mids, and s3ms etc all sound excellent though but this is only half the fun. These problems all disappeared of course when I dumped any file that had to do with the GUS off my HD. Jesus, I though upgrades were meant to improve things not crap out everything. Please convince me to keep my GUS because I'm getting reeeeeeally discouraged. I have a feeling I'll be reverting back to v.3.11. Seems like a step backwards, doesn't it? BTW, excellent mod sites: ftp.eng.ufl.edu pub/msdos/demos/music ftp.brad.ac.uk src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound Sorry Vince, and everyone, for the bitch once again. (G) Maybe I'll get this whole mess straightened out one day. Happy Gusing to the rest of you lucky shits :-) Dave Mc. ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V15 #7 ******************************