GUS Daily Digest Fri, 21 Oct 94 9:37 PST Volume 15: Issue 14 Today's Topics: -*ANNOUNCEMENT*- gaia.ucs.orst.edu downtime Sat 10/22/94 2Pat and Registrations at Logitech AMD + Gravis -> GF2 Beeps and Chirps GF2 features to dream about GM, GS, MegaEm, I have an idea! GUS CD problem solved? GUS Daily Digest V15 #12 (2 msgs) GUS Daily Digest V15 #13 (3 msgs) GUS MIDI controllers and bankswitching KILLING_MOON demo Linux & GUS Midi? Mail Delivery Status MIDI question Playmidi (2 msgs) Please update SUBJECT headings on reply/followup!!! Registration Registration Card... Registration Card problems Registration cards Reultrasound Experience Cd. System Shock on GUS Ultrasound Experience, Cover CD's and PC Zone Ultrinit.sys, I want it back!!!! Using Ultrasound with Plextor CD Wacky Wheels and GUS What is best # voices to set under windows? Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 18:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct Subject: -*ANNOUNCEMENT*- gaia.ucs.orst.edu downtime Sat 10/22/94 This is just to let everyone know that there will be a delay for all the GUS Digests for Saturday October 22, 1994 as the server will be unavailable in the morning. Sorry for any inconvenience. ---------- Text of forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 16:22:24 PDT From: Kean Stump Subject: gaia.ucs.orst.edu downtime Sat 10/22/94 We are changing out the boot disk on gaia Saturday morning, starting at 7:30. Expected downtime will be 4 hours. Gopher, ftp and news service will be unavailable during this time. ccmail traffic to the Internet will be routed through a different mail relay so service will not be interrupted. Kean Kean Stump Information Services kean@ucs.orst.edu Oregon State University OSU doesn't pay me to have official opinions. (503)-737-4740 Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 11:00:24 MET From: Alessio Lomuscio Subject: 2Pat and Registrations at Logitech Hi all , I will keep it short. 1) Can someone please rewrite where is 2pat and win32s ? 2) In Italy the situation of infos from Gravis is the same. I mailed the reg in swiss , no reply from 6 months. Bye... Alessio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 15:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Carson R. Stuart" Subject: AMD + Gravis -> GF2 > > Speaking of which, what is this TopSecret project Gravis and AMD are working >on? Developing a new GF2 maybe? :) Thats what I hear. I had a friend interview for the job of designing the GF2 at AMD. He couldn't give me any specifics other than it was for Gravis and it would replace the GF1. Too bad he didn't take the position. carson -- Carson Stuart vox: 919.248.1803 MCNC fax: 919.248.1455 3021 Cornwallis Road e-mail: carson@mcnc.org Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-2889 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 10:13:47 EDT From: "c. james" Subject: Beeps and Chirps >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:31:28 -0500 (CDT) >From: Antonio Guia >Subject: chirping from gus0043 >>Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:18:19 -0700 >>From: jsbernstein@ucdavis.edu (Jeffrey Bernstein) >>Is anyone else having a beep or chirp after certain .wav's are played for >>Windows events? I've only noticed this since I installed the files in >>gus0043. Is there a fix or workaround or anything for this? >I get that exact same effect, and it doesn't seem to matter at what volume >i have the mixer set. I've found that reducing the buffering size to 2048 etc I removed all the windows driver stuff by hand (3.53 + 0043 patch) and then used the 3.56 install. It fixed the problem at least for the mjority of the time, I've heard only one chirp on an error message since I did it... Chris P.S. It used to chirp everytime windows started. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Oct 94 09:14:00 MET From: "VISX80::GRECNER" Subject: GF2 features to dream about > How about some hints on whta going to planned for the new GF2? >I for one might like to see: Echo and Reverb, maybe semi-resident sound >patches: (stored ON the soundcard to cut reload time. The patches would >be changable, sorta like flash ram maybe?) More memory is too obvious to >mention right? ;) I'll add my "most wanted features", but don't think this could influence the design of GF2, if it's even running. I've heard this project was stopped a long time ago already, and there are no signals from Gravis about GF2. But anyway, this is what I would like to have implemented there: 1. The design with patches on the disk is just the best one for me. Any flash memory would be to expensive and I think the loading times are just great, feel really comfortable with this. 2. The rollover feature is great as well, should stay there. 3. At least 24 voices on 44.1kHz is a MUST 4. I would prefer some kind of non-linear sample interpolation to make pitch shifting sound more natural. 5. Effect processor with effect/dry mix for every sample 6. Resonant filters 7. Secondary envelope generator 8. LFO with definable waveform (using s short sample) 9. A complex modulation scheme, fully configurable (like pitch enveloping) 10. MORE MEMORY !!! 11. Better looping not interpolating between the sample at the loop end and the sample after it, but a loop start sample instead. This is my wishlist. Martin Grecner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 14:31:01 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: GM, GS, MegaEm, I have an idea! OK, dig this - a hitlist. Let's say you've got a new game and you're running it with MegaEm. You run Megaem and the game. Every time a patch is played Megem ticks its number in a table it has in memory (192 bits, we can afford it). Once we're back in DOS (there are ways to check this) Megaem saves (discretely, the user doesn't know a thing) this table as an .INI file, using some AI to keep the basic 256K set installed and allow for every patch used to fall back on at least something in its family, along with some sort of checksum for the game (size and CRC32, dunno). AG can supply a database of common games on the install disks. Now, suppose we run a game that's in the database? As we press enter, Megaem steps in (BTW, emuset will be invisible in this future idea) and loads the patch set it has for the given game. Now, since we can't assume all of the sounds in a game are used in a single session, the database will be updated every time the game is run. This way we'll get the optimal patch set for any game we run. This IS feasible. You can create a working model in one month. It's what I think of when I see "patch caching", and there's nothing stopping you from adding it to Mega Em. We can even write a TSR to do it without AG's support if we need to - you need only to monitor the MIDI port, keep a database and feed emuset as needed. I can't code DOS, but PLEASE... somebody work on it. Yossi. |IN REAL LIFE: |IN PHYSICAL REALITY: |lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il |Yossi Oren of "Ron" |Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"), |Alumim, D. N. Negev, |Windows user and Doomer. |ISRAEL. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 13:20:24 -0500 (CDT) From: drwestco@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Derek Richard Westcott) Subject: GUS CD problem solved? For information on the GUS 3-CD daughtercard solution: The problem was an intermittent lockup of the modem while using the Sony interface to the 3-in-1 card. The solution (It's worked for the little time I've been able to test it) has been to remove all DMA and IRQ jumpers from the card. -- Brought to you from the desk of -- The Eradicator -- drwestco@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 14:04:02 CDT From: rjf1@ho1focus.ho.att.com Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #12 >Subject: Re: Windows '95 Drivers and app's >Hey all, I have a question. Is Gravis going to write Windows '95 drivers >and app's to take advantage of the new system? It would be stupid to be >using the nasty windows drivers with Win'95. Granted the OS/2 drivers have >been a long time in the coming, but you would think that Microsoft would >have some pull too. Then again Win '95 may be just as big a flop as >windows3.1 Gravis has indicated to me that they will support Windows 95. Messages have been posted to me via Compu$erve and Internet. Hopefully they will be available before Windows 96 is ready. :-) Bob Flynn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:31:31 +1000 (EST) From: "Jason L. Williams" Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #12 > Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 15:14:28 +1000 (EST) > From: "Jason L. Williams" > Subject: Where is UltraSound Experience > Where can I find this UltraSound Experience demo people are talking about? Ok ok... I feel stupid... Here I was looking around ftp sties for a CD-ROM. If anyone's willing to airmail me a CD-ROM I'll send a cheque over to them for however much the CD-ROM costs. Thanks, Jason L. Williams P.S. Does anyone here know if the Assembly 94 demo CD has been released yet? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 15:32:37 EDT From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 20-Oct-1994 1532" Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #13 >>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 12:52:13 EDT >>From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering 18-Oct-1994 1252" >> >>Subject: Re: Windows '95 Drivers and app's > >>>Hey all, I have a question. Is Gravis going to write Windows '95 drivers >>>and app's to take advantage of the new system? It would be stupid to be >>>using the nasty windows drivers with Win'95. Granted the OS/2 drivers >>>have >>>been a long time in the coming, but you would think that Microsoft would >>>have some pull too. Then again Win '95 may be just as big a flop as >>>windows3.1 > >>Hmmm. Maybe the rest of us who have been silently wishing the OS/2 folks >>would stop complaining will change places with them in a couple (well >>several) months, huh? > >And what would you have us do, Burns? Trust in the benevolent wisdom of >Gravis? I think not. Everyone always says how there aren't that many folks >running OS/2 so we have to be vocal just to get noticed. Sorry, DDA. I forgot a :-). Of course you have to complain to get anything done, as we will when W95 happens! Burns ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 21:36:33 CDT From: Mike Laster Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #13 I am running a GusMax under OS/2 2.11, and when the system is first booted, my CD audio input is disabled. The only way I have been able to enable this is to go into the MMPM2 CD tool, switch to digital transfer, and then switch it off. I can then quit this, and load up Albatros to play CD's. This is very annoying to do. Is there an OS/2 program similar in function to ULTRINIT? If not, does anyone know what value I need to write to what port in order to turn this on? I have the UltraSound Lowlevel Toolkit, and it makes no mention of how to turn on the CD input...just line in, mic in, and the main output signals. -- ============================================================================== Mike Laster | lasterm@hpserv.utulsa.edu | 1:170/300.23@fidonet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- GCS d? -p+ c++++ l(!) u++ e+ m---/+ s n--- h/--/* f? g+ w+ t(+) r y? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- How did the computer scientist die in the shower? He read the directions on the shampoo: Lather. Rinse. Repeat. ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 10:59:32 +0100 (MET) From: appel@stack.urc.tue.nl (Stanley Appel) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #13 Hi, about that Gravis in Europe, There is a new firm in The Netherlands called Gravis BV NL (about Gravis ltd NL in english) so i think this is the new distributur for Gravis stuff in Europe. I don't know the address of phone just a BBS number (+31 36 5360379) Maybe Gravis (John, etc) can tell us. Stanley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 10:20:22 +0100 From: A.PAUW@ELSEVIER.nl Subject: GUS MIDI controllers and bankswitching Does anyone know to which midi controllers the Windows drivers listen to? I asked Gravis and they don't know (?). At least the person who answered me didn't. The following (obvious) controllers are definitely recognised: volume (CC #7), expression (CC #11 (I believe)), panpot (CC #10) (anyone for more ...) And how about bankswitching? The bankmanager can do it. As far as I can check it doesn't use the GS standard of Roland (which is becomming a widely accepted one). Using controller #0 plus the usual Program Change. Would be nice to have a similar bank switching scheme and bank management. Bank 1 (Roland counts from 1-128) is the General MIDI bank, and Bank 128 is the MT-32 bank. Ideas? Suggestions? Albert Pauw a.pauw@elsevier.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 22:53:48 +0100 (MET) From: rits Subject: KILLING_MOON demo Is there some GUSSER who have sound with the GUS and the KILLING-MOON DEMO from the October 1994 issue of PC-Review. The graphics are real impressive but neither Megaem or SBOS give sound or music. Dag Grootkop Richard Ritsma rits@xs4all.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 17:50:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" Subject: Linux & GUS Midi? Can anyone help me? I have recompiled my Linux kernel for GUS support and gmod works very well to play MOD files. However, the only MIDI player I've found so far is MP02 which either loads the MIDI forever (meaning the drive keeps on reading for an unreasonable amount of time) or it reads it and then does not play anything. Is there a better MIDI player for Linux out there? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris DiPierro: cdipierr@wam.umd.edu University of Maryland at College Park To quote IBM: "Think" ------------------------------ Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:53:16 GMT From: "Central Postmaster" Subject: Mail Delivery Status ***** Error in Mail Delivery ***** CANCELLED Recipients: STERN6@SMTP.LOC.GOV ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 20:45:25 +0100 (WET DST) From: Mark.Harvey@ee.surrey.ac.uk Subject: MIDI question Has anyone tried the utility available on the net to extract the music from Xwing as MID files? I found I could play the resulting files back fine through 'playmidi' but it didn't work with either of the MIDI player in Windows (i.e. SSTATION & Rec Stud.) How is this possible? Mark.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 12:43:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Allen Kalin Subject: Re: Playmidi MR George M. wrote: > It would be nice if Advanced Gravis release a new version of Playmidi > where it scans the whole MIDI file and checks the most voices ever used > simultaneously. Then, it initializes the UltraSound using that many voices. > While we wait for a new Playmidi, someone can code a program to scan the > MIDI file and then run playmidi -x??, filling the ?? with the maximum > number of voices played at once. Good idea, but how about this: somebody write such a program, but instead of tossing the # of voices simultaneously playing information when the song is done playing, instead store it somewhere in the MID file, perhaps in a "comments" or "reserved/free" area (if such space exists). Then, you only need to scan each MIDI once, to record the information. BTW, where can I find the file specs for both MID and XMI? Thanks! Chris Kalin Chris Kalin-----> ckalin@cae.uwm.edu Head PR guy for and co-founder of Your friendly neighborhood Eon Designs, Ltd. Babbage's employee. "The Universe is Our Playground" 3D Studio maniac in training. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 18:30:21 +0800 From: "Gerald Tan" Subject: Playmidi Hi there, Does anyone know how many channels Playmidi sets before playing MIDs? Or does it scan the MID first to find out how many channels are needed? -- ---NOTE--- If you're not from within CSAH, please make sure you are replying to me in the address below (gtan%adv3%linuxpub@csah.com), or I may not receive your reply. ---------- Best Regards, Internet gtan%adv3%linuxpub@csah.com Gerald/Gerry Tan(gent) FidoNet 6:600/408.6 DataNETLink 12:200/17.2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 13:08:58 -0500 (CDT) From: lance@mpd.tandem.com (Lance Hartmann) Subject: Please update SUBJECT headings on reply/followup!!! A reminder.... PLEASE remember to update your subject headings when replying/following-up to something on the digest. It's great that the digest summarizes all the subjects at the beginning, but absolutely valueless when all you see are those of the type: Re: GUS Daily Digest.... (N msgs) thank you, -- Lance Hartmann lance@mpd.tandem.com ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 11:01:37 -0400 From: GravisTech@aol.com Subject: Re: Registration No problem with registrations at Gravis, it does take a while to enter them in as we get so many a day, however if there were upgrades or other inf. we do send it out. Just the sheer volume of paper work that goes out is incredible. If you have not heard anything, maybe your not registered. Things do get lost in the mail, check with customer service. As for the people in Europe, Logitech is no longer an affiliate and therefore all registration must be sent to either Gravis (Canada) or Gravis (technical Support Netherlands) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 09:08:16 +0100 From: stevec@osiris.bt.co.uk (Steve Chaplin) Subject: Registration Card... I too duly completed the Gravis registration card and sent to Logitech in Switzerland... You guessed it - a big round zilch! I would have thought someone [...anyone...] would have picked up on this and noticed something is wrong. Perhaps abuse should be leveled at Logitech. Rhetoric on... In an increasingly competitive market such as computing peripherals... Customer service... etc...etc... Rhetoric off... ------------- Steve Chaplin stevec@osiris.bt.co.uk ---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 94 15:09:00 EDT From: "Michael Bryenton" Subject: Registration Card problems I noticed in the last digest that I am not the only one who hasn't received a response after mailing in my registration cards. Has anybody received any mail ? I send mine out over 6 months ago and I am in the same country. Pretty shabby. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - Michael A. Bryenton | So the world is spinning faster - - Help Desk Coordinator | Are you dizzy when you're stoned - - SCNM / Ottawa, Canada | Let the music be your master - - Michael_A._Bryenton@Stentor.Ca | Will you heed the master's call - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 21:40:08 -0700 (PDT) From: George!!! Subject: Re: Registration cards > Hey, you don't have to be in Europe to be having this kind of problem. I'm > in California and sent my card in this past December (maybe January) and > never heard a peep from Gravis. What's the problem Gravis? I send my registration card last year, and never got a peep from Gravis. But, that does not mean that A) the reg cards never came in, and B) . Some time last month, I got some info on the MAX, Phoenix Joystick, and that convinced me that Advanced Gravis did in fact register me. I guess they live under that strange quote: 'No news is good news.' (You people who used adb debuggers know what I am talking about ;-).) -George ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 10:51:11 -0400 From: GravisTech@aol.com Subject: Re: Reultrasound Experience Cd. Actually we are having trouble keeping these around, there are no places currently that we have shipped them to to be distributed. We have some more on order and when those come in we will decide as to the best way of distribution. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 11:18:27 BST From: mark craig 95 Subject: System Shock on GUS At last it has happened, yes that's right Origin has brought out a game with full GUS support! And what a game, Underworld II meets Doom, explore a space station controlled by a mad computer and infested by mutants, run round corridors and bludgeon people to death with a lead pipe, but enough of that, what about the GUS support? Well it uses the GUS for the GM (excellent)music and it also has stereo sound effects. It even has it's own special patches for the GUS. Unfortunately it also supports the AWE32(spit spit) but it probably doesn't use special pathces for it so AWE owners will have to make do with their crappy built in patches (what a shame). I hope that this move by Origin means that all their future games will support the Gravis, like Wing Commander III. I urge you to buy this game if you have a high spec machine (486DX33+) it is probably the most absorbing and atmospheric game on the market. Happy gussing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 19:07 BST-1 From: mcharsley@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mark Charsley) Subject: Ultrasound Experience, Cover CD's and PC Zone In-Reply-To: <199410191815.LAA04522@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> For those of you who want the Ultrasound Experience (see previous posts) and the latest drivers, utilities and demos neatly packed on a CD-ROM, buy the November Issue of PC-Zone. As a service to all such who don't live in Britain, I phoned them up today and checked if they sent back issues overseas. They do, and accept most major credit cards except switch, their UK tel. no. is (0)789 490215. I imagine the bracketed zero is dropped when you phone from abroad, but I'm not sure. Cost of the mag is #4 here, though you might have to pay a bit extra 'cos it's a back issue, and you'll definitely have to pay a bit for p&p. I have nothing to do with the mag, and am advertising it purely as a source of the Gravis Cover CD for those who can't find it elsewhere. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 11:30:13 +0100 (MET) From: ralam@cs.vu.nl Subject: Ultrinit.sys, I want it back!!!! Well, after reading several messages about the missing ultrinit.sys I think I can now assume that it really IS missing in the new installation disks. Apparently (or so I gathered from a message posted to me this morning from someone who read my message in the previous digest) ultrinit.sys was needed to make some programms recognise SBOS but since SBOS has been inproved there is no need for it anymore. WELL, THERE IS A NEED FOR IT!!!!!!!! I think everyone experienced the occasional lock up of their computer, when you can't exit a programm anymore and you have to reset (either a soft or a hard reset) Now, I also think some of you will also have experienced on some of those lock ups that the music of your GUS hangs. And when you reset, it STILL hangs. AND WITHOUT a ultrinit.sys you have to listen to that anoying note for a long time until the gus is reset in the autoexec.bat with ultrinit.exe. If, on the other hand, you have ultrinit.sys in the top of your config.sys the wait is so much shorter since some of our startups can be very long indeed. SO GIVE US OUR ULTRINIT.SYS BACK (well beack, just include it again in the installation disks (even if its an older version)) Remco Lam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 14:55:00 EST From: "Paul Simon" Subject: Using Ultrasound with Plextor CD Does anyone know where I can get a cable to internally connect my GUS to a Plextor DM-3028 CD? Also, how much is it? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 16:49:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Francis Li Subject: Wacky Wheels and GUS This was originally going to be a complaint about problems wih Wacky Wheels and the GUS, but I solved it... If you're having problems getting digitized sounds out of Apogee's Wacky Wheels, change your UltraSound settings. I changed my settings from 220,7,7,11,7 to 220,1,1,7,5 and got all 8 channels mixed 16 bits without any problems... I don't know whether its the 16 to 8 bit DMA, or the different IRQs, but since you can easily set a batch file that uses the SET ULTRASND to set them before and after, its not a big problem for me...Just feel lucky we have a jumperless card! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 21:43:45 -0700 (PDT) From: George!!! Subject: What is best # voices to set under windows? So far, my WIndows UltraSound drivers are set to initialize the card to play a maximum of 32 voices. I recalled that I read somewhere that the Windows drivers automatically reserve 2 voices for the digital playback of WAV files, etc. So, is it better if I just set the drivers to initialize the card to play a maximum of 30 voices? -George ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V15 #14 *******************************