GUS Daily Digest Sat, 22 Oct 94 9:37 PST Volume 15: Issue 15 Today's Topics: about registration cards... CD ROM Audio Cables Chirping and beeping GUS BADD REGISTRATION SUPPORT GUS Daily Digest V15 #14 (4 msgs) HMI drivers and GF2 Midi/XMI file scanning OS/2 Manley Dvrs Install Registration Card problems Registration Cards! Gravis' answer. SB on CD-ROM connector Theme Park + HMI UltraSound Experience CD Ultrinit.sys, I want it back!!!! various Wacky Wheels and GUS You want ULTRINIT.SYS back? try this. Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:04:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Ignatius Tam Subject: about registration cards... Forwarded message: > Gravis has indicated to me that they will support Windows 95. Messages > have been posted to me via Compu$erve and Internet. Hopefully they > will be available before Windows 96 is ready. :-) gee, they left us os2ers behind :( well, let's see when win95 arrives in 97 (any hongkong people here?) > > Date: 19 Oct 94 15:09:00 EDT > From: "Michael Bryenton" > Subject: Registration Card problems > > I noticed in the last digest that I am not the only one who hasn't received a > response after mailing in my registration cards. Has anybody received any mail ? > I send mine out over 6 months ago and I am in the same country. Pretty shabby. > too bad you trusted Canada Post, i've so far lost 7 letters that supposed to arrive at my mail box, instead it goes to others. Luckily i've received all letters from Gravis. So check with them if they actually received your reg. card. -iGnatius --------------------------------------------------------------------- _/^\/^\_ / . . \ Marto Piggus!!! | ____ | | (_.._) | Your dreaming pig-meat | ___/ | is here!! Contact your \________/ local dealer. e-mail: tam@cs.ualberta.ca phone: 1-403-433-3187 call Ignatius --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 11:52:48 -0700 (PDT) From: David.Roberts@amd.com (Dave Roberts) Subject: CD ROM Audio Cables OK, it's come that time. I recently bought a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM and want to attach it to my rev 2.4 GUS. On going to the store to try to find one that would work, I found out that they don't stock a 3401-to-GUS cable. They do stock a 3401-to-SB, 3401-to-SB16, 3401-to-PAS, etc. So, question is, will one of these work? Is the header layout on a SB or PAS similiar to a GUS. And if not, a quick question to Gravis: why not? I mean, why bother coming up with a new CD-ROM audio pinout. Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of the GUS's innovations when they make sense, but I'm not sure this is one of those times that it pays to get tricky. And if not, can someone give me the name and number of someone who makes or stocks a 3401-to-GUS cable? Thanks. As far as the AMD/Gravis connection that's been rumored about... you'll just have to wait and see. As Sargent Shultz used to say, "I know nothing! I know nothing!". Yea, right. :-) Dave Roberts Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. I/O and Network Products Division david.roberts@amd.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 20:28:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Batchelor Subject: Re: Chirping and beeping Not the GUS Server once wrote... > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 10:13:47 EDT > From: "c. james" > Subject: Beeps and Chirps > > >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:31:28 -0500 (CDT) > >From: Antonio Guia > >Subject: chirping from gus0043 > > >>Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 14:18:19 -0700 > >>From: jsbernstein@ucdavis.edu (Jeffrey Bernstein) > >>Is anyone else having a beep or chirp after certain .wav's are played for > >>Windows events? I've only noticed this since I installed the files in > >>gus0043. Is there a fix or workaround or anything for this? > > >I get that exact same effect, and it doesn't seem to matter at what volume > >i have the mixer set. I've found that reducing the buffering size to 2048 > etc > > I removed all the windows driver stuff by hand (3.53 + 0043 patch) and > then used the 3.56 install. It fixed the problem at least for the mjority > of the time, I've heard only one chirp on an error message since I did it... > > Chris > > P.S. It used to chirp everytime windows started. I have a hard time believeing this. My GUS chirps when starting X Window system under Linux, and also with Solaris x86 on my workstation at work - Solaris doesn't *have* a working GUS driver! (Windows makes it chirp, too, but not DESQview/X). I think the GUS is simply picking up radio signals generated by the video card. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 14:04:02 CDT > From: rjf1@ho1focus.ho.att.com > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #12 > > Gravis has indicated to me that they will support Windows 95. Messages > have been posted to me via Compu$erve and Internet. Hopefully they > will be available before Windows 96 is ready. :-) > > Bob Flynn Hopefully Windows 95 will be ready before it has to be called Windows 96. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 17:50:25 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" > Subject: Linux & GUS Midi? > > Can anyone help me? I have recompiled my Linux kernel for GUS support > and gmod works very well to play MOD files. However, the only MIDI > player I've found so far is MP02 which either loads the MIDI forever > (meaning the drive keeps on reading for an unreasonable amount of time) > or it reads it and then does not play anything. Is there a better MIDI > player for Linux out there? Adagio works. It's on sunsite someplace, I forget exactly where. MP02 is supposed to only work with a real MPU-401. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 11:30:13 +0100 (MET) > From: ralam@cs.vu.nl > Subject: Ultrinit.sys, I want it back!!!! > > > WELL, THERE IS A NEED FOR IT!!!!!!!! I think everyone experienced > the occasional lock up of their computer, when you can't exit a programm > anymore and you have to reset (either a soft or a hard reset) Now, I > also think some of you will also have experienced on some of those > lock ups that the music of your GUS hangs. And when you reset, it STILL > hangs. AND WITHOUT a ultrinit.sys you have to listen to that anoying > note for a long time until the gus is reset in the autoexec.bat with > ultrinit.exe. If, on the other hand, you have ultrinit.sys in the top > of your config.sys the wait is so much shorter since some of our > startups can be very long indeed. Since you can set environment variables in config.sys with DOS >6, you might try loading ultrinit.exe as a device driver. It could work, worth a try anyway. -- M.Batchelor@babylon4.clark.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:52:16 -0500 (CDT) From: MCAVITY@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU Subject: Re: GUS BADD REGISTRATION SUPPORT I to have never herard a peap form gravis and I registered LONG agoe over a year or more. GRAVIS WAKE UP THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG HERE!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:51 -0400 From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #14 >Sorry, DDA. I forgot a :-). Of course you have to complain to get anything >done, as we will when W95 happens! I should also apologise as I didn't really intend that to go to the digest. Since the way I read mail has changed, I was replying to the digest, not the individual. Anyway, no problem; I guess I'm just a tad sensitive, given the neverending story of OS/2 drivers. Here's hoping neither of us have a long wait...:-) DDA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 12:45:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #14 To the person who asked about linux midi players, use adagio. Do an archie search for "adagio04u". That's the latest I've seen, although I once saw a 0 byte uploaded version of adagio05, d'oh!. Anyway, you can also look via ftp on sunsite.unc.edu in: /pub/Linux/apps/sound/players for lots of stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 15:54:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Phat Hong Tran Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #14 On Fri, 21 Oct -1, GUS Server wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 10:20:22 +0100 > From: A.PAUW@ELSEVIER.nl > Subject: GUS MIDI controllers and bankswitching > > Does anyone know to which midi controllers the Windows drivers > listen to? I asked Gravis and they don't know (?). At least the > person who answered me didn't. > > The following (obvious) controllers are definitely recognised: > > volume (CC #7), expression (CC #11 (I believe)), panpot (CC #10) > > (anyone for more ...) The modulation controller is the only other one that comes to mind which is recognized by the current GUS Windows driver. > And how about bankswitching? The bankmanager can do it. As far No bankswitching controllers are recognized by the driver. Bank Man switches drivers by talking to the driver directly instead of using MIDI controllers. > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 20:45:25 +0100 (WET DST) > From: Mark.Harvey@ee.surrey.ac.uk > Subject: MIDI question > > Has anyone tried the utility available on the net to extract the music from > Xwing as MID files? > > I found I could play the resulting files back fine through 'playmidi' but it > didn't work with either of the MIDI player in Windows (i.e. SSTATION & Rec Stud.) > > How is this possible? Did the files play back with just a piano through PlayMIDI? If so, then you're extracted the note information but not the channel configuration information (such as instruments, main channel volume, etc.). Anyway, complete MIDI files from X-Wing can already be found on Epas. These play fine in Windows as well as DOS. > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 12:43:13 -0500 (CDT) > From: Christopher Allen Kalin > Subject: Re: Playmidi > > MR George M. wrote: > > > It would be nice if Advanced Gravis release a new version of Playmidi > > where it scans the whole MIDI file and checks the most voices ever used > > simultaneously. Then, it initializes the UltraSound using that many voices. > > > While we wait for a new Playmidi, someone can code a program to scan the > > MIDI file and then run playmidi -x??, filling the ?? with the maximum > > number of voices played at once. > > Good idea, but how about this: somebody write such a program, but > instead of tossing the # of voices simultaneously playing information > when the song is done playing, instead store it somewhere in the MID > file, perhaps in a "comments" or "reserved/free" area (if such space > exists). > > Then, you only need to scan each MIDI once, to record the information. As I've said earlier, you can't predict the number of voices a MIDI file will require simply by scanning the event list. The number of voices used depends on the patches being used (specifically, their decay times, which cannot be determined from the MIDI file). Another complication is that once you change the number of voices, the decay times for patches change. > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 18:30:21 +0800 > From: "Gerald Tan" > Subject: Playmidi > > Hi there, > > Does anyone know how many channels Playmidi sets before playing MIDs? Or does > it scan the MID first to find out how many channels are needed? PlayMIDI defaults to 20 voices, but you can manually set the number of voices by using the -x switch, where is a number from 14 to 32. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 11:52:08 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Thompson Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #14 > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 17:50:25 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" > Subject: Linux & GUS Midi? > > Can anyone help me? I have recompiled my Linux kernel for GUS support > and gmod works very well to play MOD files. However, the only MIDI > player I've found so far is MP02 which either loads the MIDI forever > (meaning the drive keeps on reading for an unreasonable amount of time) > or it reads it and then does not play anything. Is there a better MIDI > player for Linux out there? > Im only new to linux myself but i tracked down a copy of adagio05 on one of the linux ftp sites. It has a midi player for linux and X. I found it to work well. As far as mod players go i also found tracker043 on the same site. Im using kernel 1.1.52.. Anthony ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 14:35 EST From: 000082937@UCIS.VILL.EDU (LIFE IS A GREAT ADVENTURE) Subject: HMI drivers and GF2 Who, what and/or where might one get the HMI drivers... Quarantine uses what seems to be HMI, but the GUS sound is screwed up for me.. anyone get it working? In an e-mail from GRAVIS, the only information I could get in reply to the existence of a GF2 chip, was that AG is always improving and expanding their work.... hopefully we will here something more definite soon. Harald van der Kam 000082937@cats.ucis.vill.edu vanderka@monet.vill.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 15:32:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Public Image Subject: Midi/XMI file scanning Yesterday on the digest, someone mentioned writing an add-on in Megaem to scan the midi stream for which patches are used. Gravis (or at least Jayeson(SP) has one. Look at the Ultima 8 patch. It has a .INI file that lists a patch map for the .DLL's to use, and besides each name, is the comment: "xxxx occurances" I'd like to see this program myself... -SCott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 07:40:55 -0500 From: scannon@mail.utexas.edu Subject: OS/2 Manley Dvrs Install I've just downloaded the 5e version of the "Manley" drivers for OS/2 and find the .doc file very lacking in installation instructions. I have done exactly as they state for installing the drivers. I get NO sound in OS/2 and haven't a clue as how to install the WinOS/2 part of it. I DO get great sound in my DOS sessions though. I would be eternally greatful to anyone who can give me detailed installation instructions for these drivers. I wrote Robert Manley an email asking for help and informing him that I would gladly pay the shareware fee if he could tell me how to get them working. To date, I haven't heard anything from him. PLEASE HELP SOMEONE! I'm desperate for OS/2 sound on my GUS! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:58:26 -0500 (CDT) From: seligman@netcom.com (Scott Seligman) Subject: Re: Registration Card problems > I noticed in the last digest that I am not the only one who hasn't > received a response after mailing in my registration cards. Has > anybody received any mail ? I send mine out over 6 months ago and I am > in the same country. Pretty shabby. Same here. I've mailed in my registration probably about 7 or 8 months ago, and no response from gravis. To the European guys: It's not just you! :) -- Me! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 21:02:18 MET-1 From: "The Magic Friend" Subject: Registration Cards! Gravis' answer. Hi everybody! A very helpful gusser (Thanx Jason!:-)) sent me three E-mail address of Gravis, suggesting that I write a letter to them. You will see the answer below the non complete list of the "non-registereds". (The issue of 21 Oct. of the Digest is also including a general answer, but how to send a reg. card again if you've already sent yours?) Anyway, try to write personally to Gravistech - see address below. Good luck! Lorand > From: nguyen@eerie.fr (NGUYEN Francois) > Subject: Gravis in Europe > for the info of Europeans on the list, Logitech is no longer > importing Gravis stuff in Europe, as they have their own range of > Please, could GRAVIS offical answer and tell us what is really > happening about their stuff in Europe? > From: A.PAUW@ELSEVIER.nl > Subject: Registration card problems again > Some people wrote about the registration card problems. That is, > NOT hearing anything anymore about it, no anouncements, no > nothing. Some people from Hungary, some from Norway. Well, I > live in Holland and indeed: NO NOTHING. I also send the card to > Logitech SA. > Does Logitech serve as a black hole or what? > Albert Pauw > From: jsbernstein@ucdavis.edu (Jeffrey Bernstein) > Subject: Registration Cards > >> My problem is about the registration card. I live in Hungary, I > >Here in Norway we have the same problem. Me and three of my friend bought > >a gus about 8 months ago. We sendt in the cards, and waited, and waited - > Hey, you don't have to be in Europe to be having this kind of problem. I'm > in California and sent my card in this past December (maybe January) and > never heard a peep from Gravis. What's the problem Gravis? THE ANSWER: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 11:45:16 -0400 From: GravisTech@aol.com Sender: GravisTech@aol.com Message-Id: <9410201137177502122@aol.com> To: SZABO@btkstud.jpte.hu(themagicfriend) Subject: Re: Registration card problem X-PMFLAGS: 35651712 Thankyou for the information, and I have entered you into our database, actually we wanted all the european cusotmers to send their registration cards to Logitech, but this was when we had an affiliatian with them, we no longer have a relationship with them and therefore the registration card should either be sent to us or to the Amstardam Gravis tech. Support (just set up). Thnx..gravistech ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 19:03:50 GMT From: rhofboer@knoware.nl (Rogier Hofboer) Subject: SB on CD-ROM connector Hi everyone, A friend of mine (hi Marc) has a Soundblaster and a Ultrasound v3.7 in the same machine, he also has a CD-ROM. The CD-ROM audio out is connected to the CD-In 1 on his GUS. He made a plug on his Soundblaster ouput that fits on the CD-In 2 on his GUS. But when he connects the plug, he does get the Soundblaster sound through the Cd input, but no CD audio. When he disconnects the plug, the CD audio is back again. So one of them works, but not both at the same time. I know it's not very proper to connect to two line-level outputs to one line-level input, but I've also done it with two tape recorders (no money for a mixing unit...) and it worked perfect... Anybody with a solution? 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All emulations failed aswell since it was a dos protected mode game. As far as i can tell its using the HMI drivers. I read in the digest that the HMI drivers were finished and available. Is there going to be an update for theme park or will it just be a matter of copying the HMI drivers over like the AIL drivers??.. Also where can one get hold of the new HMI drivers with GUS support Anthony ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 03:02:47 -1000 (GMT-10:00) From: Paul Murgatroyd Subject: UltraSound Experience CD I ran across a copy of PC-Zone, and got the UltraSound experience CD-ROM. All I can say is, "Wow!". I want my UltraSound back!!!! Waaaaaaaaa!!!!! Apart from having to pay 20 bucks for the magazine (so much for the "Only 3 pounds 95" on the cover...more like 10 pounds by the time it gets here), I was suitably impressed. I gave my original GUS to my brother a few months ago, due to lack of support in software, and the fact that it hated my PAS16/CD-ROm combination. My old GUS was one of the ones that came with the 1.21 disks, so that means I have had the card for 2 years at least. Anyways, what I now want to do is dump the PAS16 and the NEC CD-ROM, and get an UltraSound Max and CD-ROM. Here is my question: Of the CD-ROMs supported by the Max out of the Box, which is the best choice, given that I use DOS, OS/2 and Linux (on my 486DX-50). ie: What CD-ROM should I buy? (Double-speed...can;t afford more than that right now). I am mainly concerned about drivers to give me CD-ROM access from whatever OS I happen to be using at the time. CD-ROM support in Linux is not vital, but would be preferable. Any help is greatly appeciated. I am going to price the GUS Max tomorrow, along with various CD-ROM drives. Hopefully I can get a wad of cash from selling my rather expensive SCSI-2 NEC-74-1 CD-ROM, at least $500-600 I hope, considering I paid $1000 for it not much more than 6 months ago. Well, here's hoping I can be a happy GUS user again very soon :-) =============================================================================== Paul Murgatroyd E-Mail : s1114@kowande.Bond.edu.au Student Residence : dreamer@rip.it.Bond.edu.au Bond University IRC : MouseTrap Gold Coast, 4229, AUSTRALIA Phone : +61-75-954-649 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 13:30:50 MDT From: tschmidt@pefs1.micron.com (Tom Schmidt) Subject: Re: Ultrinit.sys, I want it back!!!! I agree with Remco Lam's posting yesterday about ULTRINIT.SYS. I use it in my config.sys file as well instead of ULTRINIT.EXE in my autoexec.bat file so that the GUS is initialized as soon as possible after a lockup. All too often I must reboot with the GUS stuck on some note. I think that Gravis should provide both versions, or if possible, release one version that works in both config.sys and autoexec.bat. :-) Thanks...Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 10:21:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Dylan Nicolle Subject: various >Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 17:50:25 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Christopher M. >DiPierro" >Subject: Linux & GUS Midi? Can anyone help me? I have recompiled my >Linux kernel for GUS support and gmod works very well to play MOD files. >However, the only MIDI player I've found so far is MP02 which either loads >the MIDI forever (meaning the drive keeps on reading for an unreasonable >amount of time) or it reads it and then does not play anything. Is there >a better MIDI player for Linux out there? Get Adagio, it is the only one that I have seen work. ---------------------{Reply Seperator}------------------------ if (live in England) and (have enuf money to buy PCZone) and (Have CDROM drive) and (bought issue with GusExperience) and (have internet access) then (upload GusExperience to some site, damnit!) ---------------------{Reply Seperator}------------------------ >Date: 20 Oct 1994 16:53:16 GMT >From: "Central Postmaster" >Subject: Mail Delivery Status > ***** Error in Mail Delivery ***** > CANCELLED > Recipients: > STERN6@SMTP.LOC.GOV Damnit, how many times are we going to read this lame error message!?!?!? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: George!!! Subject: Wacky Wheels and GUS Strange, while you guys are getting problems with the digitized voices, I'm getting problems with the music. I can an error when I setup the Gravis UltraSound for music. Even wierder, when I select Gravis ultraSound at the setup, there is a long pause and I noticed the setup is accessing the hard disk for some strange reason. After that, the setup complains that I cannot use the GUS for music (?!?!) -George ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 94 17:39:18 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: You want ULTRINIT.SYS back? try this. OK, if you can't find the old version somewhere (we're not talking Windows here, nobody cares what version it is as long as it works), try using the DOS 6.0 and up command "LOAD" (load? I'm almost sure I'm wrong!). The reference for it is in help config.sys. Basically it runs TSRs before COMMAND is loaded (they don't have a copy of the environment but they can't load high) and I think ultrinit works with it. Best thing is to try! Yossi. |IN REAL LIFE: |IN PHYSICAL REALITY: |lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il |Yossi Oren of "Ron" |Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"), |Alumim, D. N. Negev, |Windows user and Doomer. |ISRAEL. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 01:16:17 -0400 From: Led Mirage To those concerned about Ultrinit.sys, YOU DON'T NEED IT!!! If you want to reset your GUS, just run ultrinit.exe, from the DOS prompt.It really makes one wonder how you people get yout computer up and running. ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V15 #15 *******************************