GUS Daily Digest Sat, 29 Oct 94 9:37 PST Volume 15: Issue 23 Today's Topics: Aces Of The Pacific Armoured Fist and NO GUS sound!!!! Bank switching Dream Web with GUS? GUS / CDROM DRIves GUS Daily Digest V15 #22 (3 msgs) Gus Experience GUSMAX SBOS setup help needed... Install disks: v3.53 vs. 3.56 mmpm fixes Mortal Kombat Myst and Win drivers New megaem Pro Patches 3.0 ProPats - what are they propats3 will be on epas Propats Location Recording session... (fwd) The *NEW* GUS FAQ Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 22:03:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "R. Rice" Subject: Aces Of The Pacific Anyone know how to get 'real' machine gun sounds out of this series? All I get are kind of little 'blip' noises . . . also . . . engine noises are kind of high-pitched as opposed to Soundblaster engine noise. I've tried all variations of SBOS/Emuset etc. Anyone have any luck? Thanks Dave Rice ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:43:02 PDT From: "Brian Hayes, Sierra Systems" Subject: Armoured Fist and NO GUS sound!!!! Arrrrrrrg. Armoured Fist has NO gus support. I tried everything last night to get the darn thing running with a gus, but no luck. Seems the boys at Nova Logic think a SB is the only board in the world. Here's the results I had: Mega EM : Midi music (good at that) but no sounds. SBOS 1.2 : using -o3, get SB music (sounds like fm), but no digital sounds. SBOS 3.81: using -o3, get SB music no no digital. All other switch combos for rither sbos give a 1/2 screen of error info as soon as the game tries to init the sound card. Drivers for the game--what drivers there are consists of a file called sounddrv.dvr, and a setsound utility. It's a real shame, because the game looks fantastic! Some of the effects with smoke, terrain, enemy AI are among the best I've ever seen. Anyone have a solution to this very dissapointing no-sound problem? thanks, Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 17:14:31 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: Bank switching > Do the GUS drivers for Windows support Bank switching. The Windows Multimedia API call 'MidiOutCachePatches' takes an integer argument indicating which Bank the patches should be taken from. This argument IS used by the GUS Windows drivers. At least in the GUS implementation, each call to this function loses previously loaded patches, so you can only have patches from one bank at a time. There is no implementation of switching banks in the middle of playing back a MIDI file. At best, it would have to reload all the patches from the new bank (which would cause a gap in the music), and which is probably not what you wanted anyway. Clarke Brunt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:29:46 -0600 (CST) From: Carlos Alejandro Bustos Subject: Dream Web with GUS? Has anyone had any success with dream web and the GUS? It works with Megaem but the sound quality is very poor. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 17:18:16 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: GUS / CDROM DRIves > will I need to worry about any incompatibilities (between a > CD-ROM driver card and the GUS) I see no advantage over attaching a CD-ROM directly to the GUS other than saving a slot. In either case, the audio signal will have to be taken from the audio-out pins on the CD drive to the CD-Audio-in pins on the GUS (assuming you want it to play through the GUS). This is just am audio signal - there is no digital data transfer between CD-ROM and GUS. Clarke Brunt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:40 -0400 From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #22 >Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:28:20 MDT >From: dchow@stu.athabascau.ca (Donald Chow) >Subject: Re: GUS and IBM's Warp (OS/2 3.0) > I would really doubt the drivers would be in the next release of OS/Warp >considering that Gravis hasn't finished the drivers yet... :) This is the point. Gravis has had PLENTY of time to finish any drivers they were going to write or they could have licensed Robert Manley's. But they didn't. So we lose. > BTW, the release of OS/Warp has been delayed because they still haven't >been able to find the bug that causes it to crash on some systems for >no apparent reason when installing... Ah, the mis-information abounds! They found a bug wherein the installer would get upset if you had CONFIG.BAK in your root directory. But it would still install properly (any crash was at the very end of the install) and work fine when rebooted. DDA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 00:21:31 -0400 From: AdvGravis@aol.com Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #22 For those with access to AOL, the PRO PATCHES can be found on AOL in our software library. Go keyword: GRAVIS on AOL and then just go into the software libraries. They are found in the library called UltraSound MIDI Files and Patches. As for UAKM demo, its not gonna work very well. My suggestion is to wait for the actual game and play that instead. It looks to be a killer game. We took a look at Wing Commander III, and all I can say is WOW! I ran the demo on a machine with 16 megs of RAM and it worked awesome! (wonder how it would work on my own 4 meg machine..sigh). This game is a sight to behold. What a super job Origin has done. The custom patches on the UltraSound Experience CD were a brite piano (500k). It can be found on our bbs at (604) 431-5927 and other FTP sites as well. By the way, this is Jayeson's first anniversary. Lets all wish him best of luck with his new killer MegaEM. Have a good weekend folks. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 20:54:19 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: Pisces Cowboy Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #22 > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:33:52 GMT > From: csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net (Paul Cunnell) > Subject: Re: ProPats - what are they > > Just in case anyone is interested: > > To anyone looking for Propats version 3 - I found them on: > archive.orst.edu, in directory pub/packages/gravis/submit. > They are called pp3-01.zip through pp3-19.zip > (yup, 19 zip files). I don't know whether anybody is > likely to clean up the submit area, in which case they > would probably move to: > pub/packages/gravis/sound/patches/files > Hmm.. seems like file 10,17 & 19 are bad. 11 & 18 are missing. David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:33:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dylan Nicolle Subject: Gus Experience Would some kid soul PLEASE upload the Gus Experince program to some site?!??! I dont understand why it has not yet been done. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 19:36:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Chi K Poon Subject: GUSMAX SBOS setup help needed... Hi everyone, I haven't been on the mailing list for a while now so my apologies if this question has been asked before. My problem is when I test the SBOS mode in the diagnostic menu from the setup program I get the message: "SBOS vector not functional" and the test fails. What does this mean? Also when I run sbos I get the message: "NMI Procedure on this PC is disabled." Might that have something to so with it? I tried enabling the parity checking on my PC, but that did not help. SBOS works with the "-o3" option only, but the performance from that is usally less than satisfactory. I have a GUSMAX with 512k installed in a LASER 9000 generic 486/66 motherboard using the UNICHIP intergrated chipset. Everything else works great. I just want to know what the problem is, hoping to avoid buying a new motherboard. Thanks in advance, Steve +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | \|||||/ | Steve Poon | | |O O| | UNIX: chipoon@acsu.buffalo.edu | | \ o / | VAX: V131N4E4@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu | | \-/ | | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------| | *This message was brought to you by your local friendly "Fido-Net"* | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 01:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Subject: Install disks: v3.53 vs. 3.56 Ahh, nostalgia, remember the craze to get UltraSound install disks v3.53 over the summer, and now I hear about v3.56. Anyone who had v3.53 and got v3.56: what are the version differences that deem it worthy for me to ftp them via my speedy 2400 bps modem? Peter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 20:00:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Ignatius Tam Subject: mmpm fixes Hi guys, someone asked how to get the fix for mmpm, there are two ways: 1. wait for a few days when OS/2 Warp is released 2. goto ftp.cdrom.com/pub/os2/ibm/os2fixes and get mmpmcs.* and in the same directory get loaddsf.exe. Use loaddsf to unpack the mmpmcs.dsk onto a floppy(!), run the minstall on that disk and bingo! hope this helps -iGnatius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 23:51:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Sky Woo Subject: Mortal Kombat > Subject: Re: Mortal Kombat with a gus??? > > > I dont get digitized sound from it, neither with SBOS nor with MegaEM. > > With MegaEM i get nice music, but sb sound? no way. > > SBOS doesnt work at all (although G-list says it would work with sbos) > > For some reason Mortal Kombat/SBOS won't work with all of the IRQ > settings. I figured out that it works well with: > > ULTRASND=220,5,5,5,7 > > and SBOS. > > (won't work with MEGAEM because of protected mode.. they say) > There is more than one version of Mortal Kombat out there. I have tried two completely different versions. One version lets you setup the sound from an external .EXE file. The other version has you hit F10 at the beginning of the game to select your sound setup and other stuff. The Mortal Kombat listed in the G-List is for the MK that has an external EXE file for setup. (I know it is this version because I talked to J-Mark about it on irc). That version of Mortal Kombat will work with SBOS. I dunno if it uses the DOS extender or not. The version of MK which has you press F10 will not work with any DAC sound effects under any emulation. It has nothing to do with lower than IRQ 9 cause I already tried that. And I believe SBOS doesn't work with anything higher than 9 anyhow. This version of MK uses the DOS extender and when I try to setup the card with sound effects, it fucks my system majorly. My CMOS gets wiped and my memory check at bootup is missing 512k. Same shit happened with Rebel Assault. Anyways, MegaEm for some reason, I dunno why, works and does give music but of course no sound effects. But the interesting thing about this game is that its Adlib tune I thought was better than the Roland tune. If you have to hear this game with sound effects, you should get yourself a Sound Blaster. I personally don't care and I blow this game off like I did with Ultima 8. BTW, there is a patch for Mortal Kombat out there. I think its on ftp.uwp.edu but I dunno the directory. It fixed for me, Scorpion's fatality which crashed the system when I did it. It also has a new SB audio driver, but alas, SBOS still didn't work. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 16:30:43 -0700 From: Derek Suzuki Subject: Myst and Win drivers Okay, setting the DMA playback buffers down below 1024 bytes seems to have fixed the .AVI playback skipping in most games. However, I just received the 1.0.1 version of Myst (which works with my Mitsumi doublespeed), and I am still having problems with it. Quicktime movies run perfectly well for about twenty seconds, then every ten seconds or so there is a skip in both the video and audio. Myst is the only disc I have that uses Quicktime, so I don't know whether this is the case with other programs. Since the Mitsumi problems were specifically fixed with this version, I am assuming that the GUS is the problem. Any ideas what's wrong? Derek drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 13:10:09 +0200 (EET) From: samulin@freeport.uwasa.fi (Samuli Niiranen) Subject: New megaem Will the new megaem work without a memory manager? I know that it'll work with protected mode apps running under a dos extender... -- ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Samuli Niiranen PML - Finland ! I was born not knowing and have only had E-mail: samulin@freeport.uwasa.fi ! a little time to change that and there samulin@freenet.hut.fi ! -Richard Feynman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 18:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct Subject: Pro Patches 3.0 In the last 2 daily digests, I and someone else seen MANY people asking for Pro Patches 3.0... They are available on AOL and are on EPAS. Hope this helps to let everyone know... Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 08:52:38 +1000 (EST) From: "Jason L. Williams" Subject: Re: ProPats - what are they > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:33:52 GMT > From: csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net (Paul Cunnell) > Just in case anyone is interested: > To anyone looking for Propats version 3 - I found them on: > archive.orst.edu, in directory pub/packages/gravis/submit. > They are called pp3-01.zip through pp3-19.zip > (yup, 19 zip files). I don't know whether anybody is > likely to clean up the submit area, in which case they > would probably move to: > pub/packages/gravis/sound/patches/files Well I'll be damned... I looked there... The file pp3-19.zip is 0 bytes, so it's corrupted; the file pp3-17.zip is 68k -- there has to be something missing in that; and files 11 and 18 are missing... Does someone feel like being very nice and uploading the missing & corrupted files??? Thanks, +---------Jason.L.Williams----------+ |.B.Eng(Elec)/B.InfoTech.1st.Yr.'94.| |...n1459562@water.fit.qut.edu.au...| |...chrys@ozspace.brisnet.org.au....| +-----------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 21:01:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Antonio Guia Subject: propats3 will be on epas Ok, i'll start the slow task of uploading all 19Megs!!! of the propats3 files this weekend. Look for them on epas, they should all be there before Tuesday of this week (you didn't actually think i'd transfer 19Megs in one sitting!) in the directory /pub/pc/ultrasound/submit/propats3 assuming that i'm allowed to create a subdirectory in there. -tg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 14:04:30 -0700 From: Fred Handloser Subject: Propats Location Paul, When did you look on archive.orst.edu? I just looked again today 10/28/94 (I've looked the last few days) and they don't appear to be anywhere there. Does anybody know who actually owns the directories and filespace on the archive.orst.edu machine? Who owns propats? Thanks for any help, Fred Handloser --------------- > Propats Location > >Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:11:14 GMT >From: csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net (Paul Cunnell) >Subject: Re: Propats Location > >To anyone looking for Propats version 3 - I found them on: archive.orst.edu, in directory pub/packages/gravis/submit. >They are called pp3-01.zip through pp3-19.zip >(yup, 19 zip files). I don't know whether anybody is >likely to clean up the submit area, in which case they >would probably move to: >pub/packages/gravis/sound/patches/files > ======================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 12:31:45 GMT From: Matt@machine.demon.co.uk (Matt Robinson) Subject: Recording session... (fwd) I while ago, I bought and Ultrasound for 129 quid and it had v2.06a of the base software. This came with Midisoft Recording session. I then upgraded the software to v3.53 and then 3.56 and copied 3.56 over the original disks (BIG MISTAKE). I found out after that the extra programs (Power chords, session) and the rest had gone, KABOUM, dissappeared. I saw GRAVIS ULTRASOUND BONUS software on the UK BBS and then it closed down, (besides, it was nearly 3Meg and I wasn't sure that I had the time or money). I just found some musical score from when I used to play the guitar and violin (not at once :) and I wanted to put it into midi form. Session was free and it worked but now I have no program that does the same. Please tell me if Session is still available or if there are other FREE (ie PD not SHAREWARE) midi music entry systems out there. Thanks in advance.... -- /--------------------------\ | Matt Robinson | "I don't know what weapons World War III will be | can be contacted at | fought with, but I know that World War IV will | Matt@machine.demon.co.uk | be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert \--------------------------/ Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 21:50:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" Subject: The *NEW* GUS FAQ Ok, I have started work on updating the FAQ. Below is the introduction information. Please read it and then if interested, get the GUS FAQ from me. I *TRIED* to send it to a lot of the usual FAQ FTP places, but they all either denied me permission, or in the case of epas, it is out of space in the submit section. So I regret to say if you want it, you *MUST* email me. Remember, the FAQ is only as good as everyone makes it. Below is the INTRODUCTION ONLY to the FAQ, so PLEASE DO NOT FLAME ME FOR POSTING THIS... --------------------------------------------------------------------- GRAVIS ULTRASOUND ("GUS") FAQ VERSION 2.00 [94/10/28] --------------------------------------------------------------------- QUICK NOTE: This FAQ is now maintained by a new person. This is because the person who used to maintain it cannot be reached and the FAQ has not been updated in a long time. Since the GUS digest is back (it was not available for a while, for anyone reading this that did not previously know), it is time to bring this FAQ back as well. This is also the reason that the FAQ version skipped from 1.58 to 2.00. Subsequent FAQ's will be numbered from here. ANOTHER QUICK NOTE: It has been pointed out that this FAQ tends to concentrate mainly on the technical/hardware aspect of the GUS. At least one person to my knowledge is going to help add some of the software aspects to it as well. In addition, it is possible that separate files concerning software that's available and helpful for the GUS will be published in the near future. ONE LAST QUICK NOTE: Most of the information in this FAQ is still left over from the last update (although I have made a few minor changes). I'm leaving it to the GUS users to email me and helping me update the information. I am by no means an expert on the GUS and therefore the more help I get, the better the FAQ will be. Certain questions concerning the Gravis UltraSound ("GUS") sound card are asked over and over on the UltraSound Daily Digest (a mailing list for GUS users) and on comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.* In an attempt to alleviate some redundancy from the lives of USENET/Internet folk, this FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions, with answers) list has been created. It is maintained by Chris DiPierro (cdipierr@wam.umd.edu) If you have any questions, comments, complaints, please feel free to send them to him. Please do not send your question more than once, as Chris does have other things to do aside from answering FAQ mail. If you do not get an answer after a month or so, then there may be a mail problem. NOTE: All submissions by mail to the GUS FAQ must have a subject line that looks something like one of the following: Subject: GUS FAQ Q*: rest of subject Subject: GUS FAQ: rest of subject If the submission refers to a specific question in the FAQ, use the first subject line and replace "*" with the question number. Although I will try my best to respond to messages without the proper subject line, there is always the possiblity that I will accidentally discard it while going through my mail (I'm on a few listservs). So, it is a better idea to use the correct subject line. If you would like to join the mailing list and be privy to the latest and greatest information, banter, mail to . The automated server will tell you how to sign up for the mailing list, tell you where the FTP sites associated with the Digest are (they recieve software updates directly from Gravis often), and other such information. BTW: All FAQs, including this one, are available on the archive site rtfm.mit.edu in the directory pub/usenet/news.answers. The name under which a FAQ is archived appears in the "Archive-Name:" line at the top of the article. This FAQ is archived as PCsoundcards/gravis-ultrasound/faq. Special thanks are due to many people who helped in the past with this FAQ. If they would like to help once again, just send me some mail as I don't know who all helped in the first place. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris DiPierro: cdipierr@wam.umd.edu University of Maryland at College Park To quote IBM: "Think" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:12:41 -0700 From: Derek Suzuki >Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:28:20 MDT >From: dchow@stu.athabascau.ca (Donald Chow) >Subject: Re: GUS and IBM's Warp (OS/2 3.0) > I would really doubt the drivers would be in the next release of OS/Warp >considering that Gravis hasn't finished the drivers yet... :) > > BTW, the release of OS/Warp has been delayed because they still haven't >been able to find the bug that causes it to crash on some systems for >no apparent reason when installing... > >Donald Chow | X-Phile & GATB >dchow@a.stu.athabascau.ca | Call (202) 555-6431 for a 'Spooky' time My, how tales grow with the telling... The bug was that the install screwed up if you had a CONFIG.BAK file in the root directory of the drive you were installing to. They probably missed it in the betas because everyone was using freshly-formatted partitions. The easy workaround, of course, is to make sure that you don't have a CONFIG.BAK. Then again, IBM (and a few journalists) discovered the bug before volume shipments commenced, so only a few days were lost as a result. I should have a copy myself by the end of the week. And to make this post relevant to the GUS: I was told that the HMI drivers do not support patch caching. Is this indeed the case? If so, would we be able to preload only the necessary patches before running the game? Derek drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V15 #23 *******************************