GUS Daily Digest Thu, 3 Nov 94 9:37 PST Volume 16: Issue 3 Today's Topics: "Under a killing moon" demo Bad CRC in pp3-02.zip GUS & Philips 2x GUS 3.56 disk set GUS Daily Digest V16 #2 GUS Experience Transcript GUS MAX RAM chip numbers?? GUS ProPatches HMI DRIVERS --- HELP! KLF KLFs Mr. Dean Ross-Smith, EPAS and KLF. NMI disable and Memory Parity Check NMI Disabled Propats Q: Sampling with GUS trailing sig for the gus digests Ultrasound drivers v5.47 UltraSound Experience UltraSound Experience CD Y cable Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 22:10:47 -0500 From: bpage@infi.net (Bob Page) Subject: "Under a killing moon" demo >Date: Tue, 1 Nov 94 12:30:06 CST >From: Jim English >Subject: under a killing moon demo > >hey, I got the under a killing moon demo cd, and have had no lookups. Great! Wish I had the same luck. >If you read the readme file on the cd-rom it says (somewhere) that they >were not able to get the GUD MIDI driver in time for the demo, but it >would be in for the final product. Just get digital and no midi on the >demo. Hmmm...I guess I really need to remember to actually READ those readme's. ;) Thanks for advice Jim. I will have to give the final product another look; when it comes out. It did look like a great game. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --> Bob Page ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 20:12:52 +0000 From: William Beckner Subject: Bad CRC in pp3-02.zip I just finished ftping all of the propats from ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca this evening and unzipped them. All the files but one (pp3-02.zip) unzipped just fine. pkzip (v. 2.04g) reported that the patch called CYMRIDE1.PAT has a bad table and failed the CRC check. tg - Would it be possible to either re-verify pp3-02.zip and re-ftp it to ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca or just ftp the CYMRIDE1.PAT file and let us 'patch' the pp3-02 disk ourselves? Thanks for your time! ============================================================================= William Beckner - System Manager/SysAdmin wbeckner@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us Ph : (309) 694-5513 FAX: (309) 694-5297 Resource Sharing Alliance of West Central Illinois, Inc. East Peoria, IL (USA) "Off of Route 24 on the Information Highway" ============================================================================= System Administration - It's a dirty job, but somebody said I had to do it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 10:07:28 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: GUS & Philips 2x >Has anyone successfully installed an internal 2X CDROM drive with thier GUS? >I am also going to get a controller card with it, so I don't have to worry >about using my GUS as one, but will I have many problems installing it to >play the digital sound through my gus? Could someone list me the things I >need to successfully complete my task? You do NOT get digital sound by connecting a CD drive to a GUS, or any other sound card. The drive converts the digital signal on the CD to analogue audio, which you normally feed to your amplifier. Instead, you can connect the audio-out pins on the back of the CD drive to the CD-audio-in pins on the GUS (with a suitable cable). The signal is then mixed with the other GUS output and emerges from the amplified out and the line out on the GUS. Some CD drives, with special software, may allow you to read the digital data directly, and hence perhaps play it using the GUS's digital to analogue ability, but this is not the normal mode of operation. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:17:27 -0500 From: GravisTech@aol.com Subject: Re: GUS 3.56 disk set Niel D. Asked >>1) Does anyone know exactly what is contained in the Bonus >>disk set referred to at the end of installing the GUS 3.56 >>disks? The bonus diskette set contails programs like Midisoft Recording, Patchmanager, Wavelite, etc etc. >>2) Also, any idea why this set doesn't include the Recording >>Session or Howling Dog programs? Did adding the Dust 3D >>demo and Patch Maker really use enough disk space to bump >>these off the disk set? OR... are these programs contained on >>the 'bonus disks'? These programs are contained on the bonus diskettes, the reason being that we pay a royalty on these programs and are not able to distribute them freely. >>3) I didn't bother to compare the patches either... are they >>the same, improved, are there more or less of them? They are pretty much the same, some have been changes and are much better. >>4) What is the consensus on how much buffer space to >>allocate.Is the default of 4096 OK? The default is okay.. unless you are playing back AVI files etc.. in which case you should probably change that to 512K or so. >>5) How to get rid of the chirping that follows about 15% of >>digital playback files? While we try and research the problem, it has ben suggested that cranking the wave volume in the mixer all the way to the top and controlling the volume externally.. should fix this problem. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 14:41 -0500 From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #2 >I don't use NT or pretend to know much about it, but a friend here tells >me that NT can't use any DOS or Windows 3.1 drivers and thus the GUS >(along with some other devices) can't be used with NT. I would like to >know if this is actually the case, and if so, does Gravis have plans to >release an NT driver? Thanks in advance... You're friend is correct. AFAIK, the GUS is currently unsupported by Windows NT. I can't say if Gravis intends to write an NT driver, but I CAN say that I surely hope they get the OS/2 driver done FIRST. I use NT at work (no GUS) but OS/2 (and DOS/Windows) at home (with GUS)... DDA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 22:35:12 +0800 From: "Gerald Tan" Subject: GUS Experience Transcript Hi guys, here's a transcript from the GUS Experience CDROM for guy poor things who can't get the CD. Ng Cheng Kiang (ngck%attobyte%linuxpub@csah.com) and I used the time when we couldn't sleep to type up this stuff... not to be missed. BTW, it's much better with the graphical statistics, and the differences between FM and Ultrasound. I suppose we could have gone into more details describing differences etc, but we've lost enough sleep. Happy GUSing (and FRAGing, for you DOOMers out there) Looking for a quality soundcard? Look no further. You are listening to Ultrasound, the future of sound & music on the PC. Unparalleled sound quality in its class for music multimedia and games. All the Ultrasound music in this presentation is played on the Ultrasound without additional hardware. Most soundcards use FM synthesis, a 70's technology where sounds are fabricated or mimicked using combinations of simple waveforms. On the other hand, Ultrasound is based upon wavetable synthesis, a radical departure from outmoded FM synthesis technology. Using actual recordings of real instruments, Wavetable Synthesis delivers audio that is vastly superior to the FM synthesizers found in the majority of current soundcards. The difference is astonishing. Compare. This is FM And this is UltraSound. Featuring 32 voices of Wavetable Synthesis and digital sound effects, Ultrasound achieves sound quality that FM cards can only dream of. But at a price much less than what you might expect. In fact, Ultrasound is available for about the same price as common FM soundcards. Even among wavetable cards, Ultrasound is exceptional in price and performance. Not all wavetable cards are created equal. Many Wavetable Synthesis soundcards have only 1 or 2Mb of instruments and often even less. Ultrasound has over 5Mb of 16-bit General MIDI instruments delivering superior sound. [Graph showing other soundcards having 0.5, 1 and 2MB ROM, and Ultrasound having 5.6MB] This is a wavetable soundcard that is comparable in price to Ultrasound. [plays some crappy wavetable music] And this is a wavetable soundcard that is more expensive than Ultrasound. [Plays much better wavetable music] and now, Ultrasound wavetable. [Plays wavetable music comparable to the more expensive wavetable card] Ultrasound is quality 16-bit Wavetable Synthesis. Ultrasound does not stop at sound quality. its RAM based design means versatility. Applications can expand and improve on the standard packaged General MIDI intruments. With its expandable RAM bank, Ultrasound also allows you to use high quality solo instruments much larger than those that can be accomodated in the ROM of other wavetable cards. Here is a midi file played on Ultrasound with a 500KB custom piano. [plays a piano solo with very realistic piano patch] Ultrasound can also play more than just MIID files. MOD, S3M, ULT and other formats which contain note information and encapsulated custom instruments are best played on Ultrasound. Most other soundcard can only play these formats with a great drain on the CPU and poor sound quality. In fact, some cards cannot play these formats at all. Here is Ultrasound playing a MOD type file. [Plays Guitar Slinger] There are currently 2 cards in the Ultrasound family. Ultrasound and Ultrasound Max. Both have 16-bit playback and Wavetable Synthesis. But Ultrasound Max has addtion 16-bit recording & 3 way cd-rom interface. You choose the card that provides the best sound solution for your needs. Ultrasound is the most affordable path for high quality sound. In addition to the previously described wavetable features, Ultrasound has : * 16-bit stereo playback * 8-bit stereo recording * a speed compensating joystick port and * a midi port Ultrasound also has connectors of CD Audio and optional 3-way CD-ROM controller interface. This model is perfect for users who want high quality sound output but who do not need professional quality recording. The built-in 8-bit recording is sutiable for speech recognition, voice annotation and most other common uses where audio input is required. Ultrasound Max is the deluxe model in the Ultrasound family. It has all the features of Ultrasound but adds on-board 16-bit recording, and a 3-way CD-ROM interface. Ultrasound Max supprots simultaneous high quality stereo recording & playback for uses such as digital audio network conference and multitrack recording. It also supports ADPCM, A-Law and f-Law compresion of 16-bit digital audio, meaning that you can make longer recordings using less disk space. Ultrasound Max is capable of sampling rates up to 48khz surpassing CD quality sampling. the high quality recording features makes the Ultrasound Max the perfect choice for uses such as recording custom instruments. Ultrasound points the future of PC Audio. It offers potential for games that few others can. Ultrasound has up to 32 channels for digital audio. The closest competitor has only 4 such channels. Ultrasound's RAM for custom instruments also allows greater variety in game music than possible than on other competing wavetable soundcards. Gravis is working closely with game developers to help them support Ultrasoundasound's advanced features and elevate game audio to a new level of realism. Many games already ship with native Ultrasound support. including Doom, the Horde Sea Wolf, Pinball Fantasy and more. Ultrasound has a future that is compatible with the past. It supports most games written for Soundblaster, MT-32, Sound Canvas and GM Ultrasound. Full featured multimedia drivers for Windows 3.1 means no hassle compatability with Windows multimedia applications. OS/2 drivers supporting midi devices and multiple wave channels for Ultrasound will be released in the near future. The power of Ultrasound is backed by a limited 3 years warranty and extensive technical assistance is available over the phone, CompuServe Genie, America-On-Line and Internet. Ultrasound comes with several programs that let you take advantage of its advanced features straight from the box. For musicians, there are 2 commercial quality composition tools for Windows in the Ultrasound package. Midisoft Recording Session and PowerChords. Recording Session lets you compose using standard staff notation while PowerChords provides a novel guitar-based approach. And at the instrument level, software is included to let you organize, modify create and audition your midi instruments with ease. Imagine an entire orchestra at your fingertips. But Ultrasound also come with softwware for the non-musician who still appreciates high quality audio. Modus is a Windows-based MOD player that take direct advantage of Ultrasound's Multi-channel hardware. Windows SoundStation is a Wave and MIDI jukebox. and WaveLite lets you make and edit digital recordings in windows. Dos-based utilities for MIDI playback and digital audio recording are also included. Ultrasound even comes with software for the avid gamer. Epic Pinball is a fast-paced pinball game with a dynamic Ultrasound soundtrack. Ultrasound max comes with DOOM - the explosive 3D arcade gaeme that has taken the world by storm. For compatibility with existing and older standards, there is MegaEm which emulates Roland SoundCanvas, MT-32 and Soundblaster. Ultrasound offers quite possibly the best sound for your money, and the experts agree. John C Dvorak of PC Magazine says: "The board, which is MIDI compatible, sounds great. I recommend the Ultrasound for starters. The board is outstanding. It comes with plenty of interested bundled software and works beautifully with Microsoft Windows" Jim Seymour -- PC Week "Its low price makes it another Advanced Gravis product, the Ultrasound card one of my favourite. It sounds worlds better than any other low-priced soundcards and it is one of the easiest to install. Rob Feiner -- MIDI Magazine "The Advanced Gravis Ultrasound delivers crisp, clean, realistic sounds Its a strong performer in the litany of soundcard manufactures." Chris Cain -- PC World "The Ulrasound offers more voices and richer sound than any of the popular FM products. I was most impressed with sound quality." Troy Worrel -- Vice President/Interplay "The Advanced features of the Ultrasound has created an entire new genre of soundcard." and Scorpia of Computer Gaming World says "The Ultrasound music is just incredible. Now I have been spoilt and I don't want to go back to regular soundblaster." With praises like that, should'nt you experience the ultrasound for yourself? -- ---NOTE--- If you're not from within csah, please make sure you are replying to me in the address below (gtan%adv3%linuxpub@csah.com), or I may not receive your reply. BTW, gtan%adv3%linuxpub@csar.csah.com is okay. ---------- Best Regards, Internet gtan%adv3%linuxpub@csah.com Gerald/Gerry Tan(gent) FidoNet 6:600/408.6 DataNETLink 12:200/17.2 ------------------------------ Date: 02 Nov 94 13:47:13 EST From: Jonathan Clark <100410.3324@compuserve.com> Subject: GUS MAX RAM chip numbers?? Message-ID: <941102184712_100410.3324_BHG49-2@CompuServe.COM> Hi all. Does anyone know the chip numbers I need to upgrade my MAX to 1Mb? Thanks! ---------------------------------- Jonathan Clark - Belfast ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 10:10:00 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: GUS ProPatches >What are the Propatches? Do they replace my current GUS patches? Not unless you have a GUS with 19 megabytes on board! From what I hear (not having tried them) they are high quality LARGE patches intended to be used singly, since you can't fit many of them in GUS memory. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 18:24:14 -0600 (CST) From: ST4SI@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: HMI DRIVERS --- HELP! Hi Gusers! Well... What is up with the HMI drivers? I heard from friends that the New FRONT PAGE FOOTBALL 95 supports the HMI drivers. But even though there is an option for the GUS in the sound installation, it does not work... Do HMI drivers work with MegaEm? Any other emulator? Thanks! Oh, if the HMI drivers are out, where can I find them? Please send me email... Thanks... (better yet, let all the digest subscribers know...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 01:47:48 -0500 From: Led Mirage Subject: KLF Regarding uploading music into EPAS, at least some of the stuff is NEW! Just because YOU don't like the music, DOESN'T mean nobody does. The last time I check, EPAS is for the NEW stuff, and Propats 3 is older than my grandmother, and should be on Orst, or Wuarchive. At least EPAS people are gratious enough to let you guys upload such old stuff there. Just think if we all just upload really old files that are "interesting"! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 20:11:38 -0600 From: sandeen@io.com (Eric Sandeen) Subject: KLFs For what it's worth, the KLF releases *are* the best I've seen (on the average.) There are several people in the KLF "consortium" so 90 releases/year is do-able I think. But anyway - I agree that EPAS probably isn't the best place for them. There is primary US FTP site for the KLF stuff: freedom.wit.com Anything new from the KLF should show up there first, I think. There's no need to duplicate it on EPAS. (Oh - the overseas site for the KLF is ftp.luth.se, I think.) PS - anyone use DOOM v1.7 with the GUS? Any better? (YES, v1.7 exists.) -eric sandeen@io.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 15:36:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Subject: Mr. Dean Ross-Smith, EPAS and KLF. this is re: mr. Dean Ross-Smith's letter to the Nov. 2 daily GUS digest, a letter which was written in a tone of superiority, and a letter which might just have well have said only "I, Dean Ross-Smith, am a complete dork who has nothing better to do." And now, i will gladly admit that i am about to toot my own horn. Entirely for the sake of mr. Dean Ross-Smith's ignorance. KLF is one of, if not the most well-known PC music-only group in the world. We have two FTP sites each of which could hold EPAS four times over, thirty-four distro site BBSes and twenty-five group members in four countries. we have been supporting the UltraSound card since before it came out - two of us did the music for the first game to support the card, Star Control II, and some of our work has been used for various gravis promotions. I would ask mr. Dean Ross-Smith to take a little time and download a few KLF releases. In this past year we have released ninety-nine songs absolutely for free on the net, and contrary to mr. Ross-Smith's naive statement, it hasn't all sounded the same. KLF releases were put on EPAS for two reasons: 1) we were without our normal ftp site for a few months during the summer and 2) to get the music to people who would not find out about it otherwise. Contrary to what you may believe Mr. Ross-Smith, there are quite a few Gravis UltraSound owners who are as interested in our quality music as they are in thirty megabytes of MIDI patches. As for the quantity vs. quality spiel you make, look before you leap. Since i am positive from your post that you've listened to maybe 3 or 4 of our songs, and not a bit more, you are really not qualified to make your judgement. For those out there who are enjoying the music, thanks for listening. - Maelcum of KLF (Dan Nicholson) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 17:11:15 HKT From: fma@VNET.IBM.COM Subject: NMI disable and Memory Parity Check Hello all (again), First of all, thanks to those of you who kindly send your reply to me personally. I am getting the latest FAQ from EPAS. About NMI: I only know that this is one of the pin assignment of x86 chip known as Non-maskable Interrupt. Correct me if I am wrong. Some one has also suggested me to enable the Memory Parity Check. In fact, I tried it before I made the last e-mail. After Parity Check enabled, I reran the SBOS and SETUP programs, symtoms still the same. SBOS -o3 works, but I heard the performance is not so good. So, if it is my mainboard problem, I have to stick with it. Thanks again! 8~) Fermat (FMA@VNET.IBM.COM) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:31:46 -0500 From: GravisTech@aol.com Subject: Re: NMI Disabled >>I have just bought a LEO VESA/ISA/PCI motherboard and >>migrate my harddisks and GUS card to it. >>I get a message saying 'NMI Procedure on this PC is disabled' >>too. >>What exactly is wrong?? >>When setup using the GUS setup program, the test fails for >>SBOS Vectorfunction (??). Can any body help pls?? >>Cheers! Fermat Ma Although I believe that all of this is in the Gus Faq.. here is a little explanation. The above means that the Non Maskable Interrupt, the highest priority interrupt is not functioning, it could be a simple thing like the parity check enable/disable function in teh bios, might be disabled, a jumper on your board for that function might not be in or finally the motherboard might not support that. All this means that the sound blaster emulation SBOS will not work on your machine as with Midi IN, in windows, that will also not work.. other then that everything else should work just fine. Gravistech@aol.com Advanced Gravis Technology ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:20:04 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Thompson Subject: Propats Ive had propats v3.0 for sometime now it well worth it. One problem i do have is that the propats dont seem compatible with megaem. When megaem is loading the patches and it gets to one of the patches i have replaced with one from the propats series it get an error along the lines of wrong format. Is there a solution to this?? I had a similar problem with wacky racers too. Anthony ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 15:49:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Martin Schneider Subject: Q: Sampling with GUS Hi, i have a GUS with 1MB and i tried to sample some sounds fronm my CD-ROM Drive Philips CM206/10. I use the Philips controler card. Two questions: 1. Where is the data of the sound stored? Only in the main memory or in the GUS also. Of course the most things go to HDD. When it goes to GUS, do i have to use ULTRINIT to clear the memory? 2. It is possible to record stereo in 8bit. Is there a possibility to record in mono with 16 bit? Thanks in advance, greetings and happy gusing... Martin ______________________________________________________________________ Martin Schneider StarTrek@ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE Free University of Berlin Germany All hailing frequencies are open... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 12:52:56 -0600 (CST) From: Antonio Guia Subject: trailing sig for the gus digests To whomever is in charge of the gus digests (how quickly i forget names!): could you please include a section with the phone numbers for GRAVIS (tech, sales, whatever) at the two locations, and their associated mailing addresses. It might also be helpful to include e-mail addresses for Gravis (sales@gravis.com, tech-1/tech-2@gravis.com) although i'm not sure how gravis would feel about that one. -tg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:18:34 MET From: "John Vernooij" Subject: Ultrasound drivers v5.47 I've uploaded USND547.ZIP to epas. It contains the 5.47 version of the Ultrasound drivers for Windows 3.1. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 01:01:10 -0800 (PST) From: Christy G McCartney Subject: Re: UltraSound Experience Ok, what is the deal weith the UltraSound Experience CD? Several friends of mine ordered the UltraSound Experience CD for free (As well as one who posted in the last digest) I called a few hours after my friends, and am being charged $7 for the CD. AdvGrv, why are some people being charged and not others? This is rather upsetting... Dustin McCartney, cmccart@eis.calstate.edu _ [_ Elysium Entertainment [_ Coder/Musician ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 11:22:35 -0800 From: "Gary Wingert" Subject: UltraSound Experience CD > > If you would like to purchase the UltraSound Experience CD ROM, which > > contains 40 minutes of digital audio and over 100 megabytes of additional > > bonus software, you can call (604) 431-5020, ext. 1095. I think the price > > is > > $6.95 but don't quote me. > > Here's a deal! Called Gravis (above number) and they will send you the > cd-rom > free of charge! Don't know how long this will last so better act fast. > > Bruce Harris Bummer. I just called 'em - $7 said they. Checks/money orders can be sent to: Gravis Advanced Computer Products 1790 Midway Lane Bellingham, WA 98266 and ask for the UltraSound Experience CD Gary -- Gary Wingert Z-Mail: gary@z-code.com Quality Assurance Vox: +1.415.898.8649 (main) Z-Code division of NCD Vox: +1.415.899.7926 (direct) 101 Rowland Way, Suite 300 FAX: +1.415.898.8299 Novato, CA 94945 URL: ftp://ftp.z-code.ncd.com U.S.A. URL: http://www.ncd.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 09:16:46 -0500 From: "Max L. Salvas" Subject: Y cable Dose anyone know the pinouts for a joystick Y cable for the GUS? According to the manual, because the 15 pin connector is also used as a MIDI port it is configured differently than your average Y cable. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:26:09 +0100 From: jpdgreve@vub.ac.be (De Greve Jean-Pierre) Hi, I got some problems with the DMA channels on my GUS MAX... here is what happens when testing the board in the setup program,advanced mode: SBOS mode -> bad dma data compare (read) and : Check dma channel -> bad dma data compare (read). I use a 486-dx2 66Mhz with 16meg ram, windows 3.1, a harddisk of 340mb (wd)+540mb (maxtor) . my autoexec gus part : @SET ULTRASND=220,5,6,7,5 @SET ULTRA16=32C,0,0,1,0 @SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T1 @SET ULTRADIR=D:\ULTRASND @SET GUSMOD=D:\ULTRASND\MOD @D:\ULTRASND\ULTRINIT.EXE -ej PATH=%PATH%;D:\ULTRASND what's wrong here ? I also use a logitech scanman plus at dma 3, 280H and irq11. in doom everything works fine, sometimes my gun shakes (nothing sexual here) and the pc locks up, and in sierra/dynamix games SBOS or MEGAEM or GUS simply doesn't work... also in the new Armored fist... shit..... does sierra think a soundblaster & adlib are the only ruling boards ? .... f*ck ! greetings, JP. ------------------------------ From: (null) No installation instructions, but I copied the lot to my C:\ULTRASOUND\WINDOWS directory and then ran SETUP.EXE from the C:\ULTRASOUND directory and let the program install the drivers in Windows. And yes, it does what it says (for me, I had the v3.56 disks installed). Greetings, John Vernooij. ___________________________________________________________ J.Vernooij@earth.ruu.nl Universiteit Utrecht Faculty of Earth Sciences ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V16 #3 ******************************