GUS Daily Digest Mon, 21 Nov 94 9:37 PST Volume 16: Issue 21 Today's Topics: Can't Find Back Issues Dune 2 Gabriel Knight and GUS Gabriel Knight on CD GUS -> GUS MAX GUS Daily Digest V16 #20 (2 msgs) GUS doesn't work with PQ4? Gusmax and Cakewalk for windows GUS update on CD HMI Drivers - Where is they at? Manley drivers and GM midi new midi drivers Origin influence REbel Assault w/G:US Rise of the Robots Sound in Lion King Speech cut in Gabriel Knight CD... tie-fighter US Experience Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 10:12:02 -0800 (PST) From: Seth Delackner Subject: Can't Find Back Issues Its been a while since I last tried to look for the digest back issues, and it appears things have really changed... I can't find them on orst or epas, and its not mentioned in the digest. Where can I find the daily backissues? (BTW, I'm only looking because I accidentally deleted the issues from a few days ago and now need the info on fixing EarthSiege.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:07:40 -0500 From: Christian Brideau Subject: Re: Dune 2 Message-ID: <9411201307.aa28789@macdonald.revcan.ca> wiercin2@student.msu.edu wrote: This is my first post to the digest.. I was just wondering how to get Dune 2 to work with ULTRAMID. I keep getting error messages like configuration file not in $(ULTRDIR)/midi directory and other times it just refuses to load. I've heard it sounds great when its working Tip: Try MEGAEM instead of Ultramid but before you have to make this little modification to the DUNE.CFG file use a hex editor to change the file dune.cfg to - B6 A8 A9 A0 A1 A6 A4 00 B8 - this sounds great although I do get the occasional random midi sound played. This happens only in the intro though.... Christian O. Brideau Analyst Revenue Canada, Customs, Excise & Taxation ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 7:54:01 EST From: "Jamie Stafford-Evans" Subject: Gabriel Knight and GUS Message-ID: <8+g8+dV7oia@Radium-VS1.Hanscom.AF.Mil> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:05:57 -0400 From: terry barratt (09/14/94) Subject: Re: Gabriel Knight CD w/GUS = Problems This is not true. This is VERY VERY VERY misleading. The drivers work! But not entirely.. In both Windows and DOS this game will not do speech correctly. Syllables are missing from spoken words, it is VERY distracting and annoying. I've called Sierra several times and they keep saying they have a solution but they want my address or a fax number to give me the response. Why the ^#$^ can't they tell me on the phone. This is aggrivating. I love this game (I played the floppy) but I find it impossible to enjoy it with the speech cutting out like it does. I've tried changing settings and all. If anyone has a REAL solution to why this dosn't work, please let me know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Well, what I did was disable SmartDrive's caching of the CD before loading the game (smartdrv -e: where e: is my CD-ROM drive) and all the speech sounded fine. No hiccups at all. I use a 2X CD-ROM... That doesn't explain why Sierra were being such jerks... ;} #################################################### # Jamie Stafford-Evans # INTERNET ID: Stafford-EvansJ@Radium-VS1.Hanscom.AF.Mil #################################################### ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 15:04:26 -0400 From: markus@nbnet.nb.ca (Marc Y. Paulin) Subject: Gabriel Knight on CD >This is not true. This is VERY VERY VERY misleading. The drivers work! >But not entirely.. In both Windows and DOS this game will not do speech >correctly. Syllables are missing from spoken words, it is VERY distracting >and annoying. I've called Sierra several times and they keep saying they >have a solution but they want my address or a fax number to give me the >response. Why the ^#$^ can't they tell me on the phone. This is aggrivating. >I love this game (I played the floppy) but I find it impossible to enjoy it with >the speech cutting out like it does. I've tried changing settings and all. >If anyone has a REAL solution to why this dosn't work, please let me know. You don't have to flame. If my memory's right, you have to increase your DMA buffer with your EMM manager. But I might be wrong! Remember that I was away for several months. Marc Y. Paulin - Jurassic Mark - markus@nbnet.nb.ca "You never knew what life was until it ran like a red GUS inside your computer" - Musical Lestat ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 16:37:00 -0500 From: "wlodek (w.l.) olesinski" Subject: GUS -> GUS MAX Hello, What's the procedure to upgrade GUS to GUS MAX? (I bought mine in '91) I've heard something about a December deadline, but no details here nor in FAQ. I'd appreciate any info. wlodek olesinski (* this is my private opinion/issue, not my employer *) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 15:00:30 CST From: Senopati Pamungkas Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #20 >>Subject: GUS and Gabriel Knight >> >>Some wrote this: >>I got a good deal on the Gabriel Knight CD, but before I buy it, >>I wanted to know if it supports the GUS. Or what kind of hacking >>you have to do to get it to work. What drivers does it use? >> >>And I reply this: >>You'll need the GUS/Sierra 32bit drivers. You can find them on the GUS site >>under a filename that I forgot. I just got on Internet after a 4 months >>absence. >>But don't worry, the game will work and what a game! > >This is not true. This is VERY VERY VERY misleading. The drivers work! >But not entirely.. In both Windows and DOS this game will not do speech >correctly. Syllables are missing from spoken words, it is VERY distracting >and annoying. I've called Sierra several times and they keep saying they >have a solution but they want my address or a fax number to give me the >response. Why the ^#$^ can't they tell me on the phone. This is aggrivating. >I love this game (I played the floppy) but I find it impossible to enjoy >it with the speech cutting out like it does. I've tried changing settings >and all. If anyone has a REAL solution to why this dosn't work, please >let me know. I have the same problem with my GUS and GK CD. The speech problem doesn't happen often. >I almost went and bought a SB Pro just to play this game!!! That's how >dissapointed and anxious I was to play it....correctly. I have a SBPro with my GUS, but when I used it for GK CD, I noticed a few seconds delay before the speech was played (after the written speech was displayed in the monitor). I can't stand the delay, so I stayed with the GUS. +=-G=-R=-A=-V=-I=-S=-+=-U=-L=-T=-R=-A=-S=-O=-U=-N=-D=-+=-R=-U=-L=-E=-Z=-+ | W i t y G a n d a | Calvin: I think as long as you suffer for | | +::::::::::::::::+ | your sins, they don't count. | +=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+ Hobbes: It's your only hope. +=-+=-+=-+=-+=-+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 11:14:02 MEZ From: Jochen_Quante Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #20 Chuck wrote... > 2 black wires on the center pins. Make sure the ULTRINIT.EXE command in > your AUTOEXEC.BAT file has the commands to force Line Audio In and Line > Audio Out always on. (I'm not at my GUS computer and can't remember it > exactly, but it's in the manual under the ULTRINIT.EXE section) For the last time: :) You don't need to enable Line In to hear the CD sound! CD in is always active. You just have to enable output: ultrinit -o Jochen -- ================================================================ | Jochen Quante Computer Science Student | | University of Karlsruhe, Germany | | E-Mail: ukr8@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de S_Quante@ira.uka.de | | Jeckel@IRC http://rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ukr8/ | ================================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:43:12 +0100 From: "Jerry van Waardenberg" Subject: GUS doesn't work with PQ4? Hi, I can't get my GUS to work with Police Quest 4 CD-ROM. I am using the 32-bit Sierra drivers, but the game hangs frequently (always at the same point: just after the beginning of the intro or after displaying the Sierra logo at startup). The drivers worked well with Gabriel Knight. Is there any way to make it work? Any help appreciated! Greetz, Jerry -- _____________________________________________________________ Jerry van Waardenberg -=- Internet: jerry@waard.iaf.nl Voice: (+31)(0)5476 2041 -=- FidoNet: 2:283/726.9 __________________-= PGP-key available =-____________________ ------------------------------ Date: 21 Nov 94 15:44:49 MET From: "R." Subject: Gusmax and Cakewalk for windows I have recently installed the latest version of cakewalk pro for windows, and I am having some problems with loading patches when I want to play midi files. For example the song Striving. I get an error message which says that I don't have enough memory to load all patches. How can this be, when I CAN play this song with, for example, the soundstudio? R.G.Middelkamp@kub.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 8:21:32 PST From: David Burton Subject: GUS update on CD What give's with the GUS update on the Ultrasound Experience CD? The readme file says version 3.56 is in the gus356 directory, but I only see version 3.53 and no gus356 directory. Thanks, D. Burton davidb@mcm.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 9:17:12 CST From: Jon Holt Subject: HMI Drivers - Where is they at? I've determined that War Wizard ver 2.2 is using the HMI drivers for digital sound, but they're the older, non Gravis supporting ones. Where can I find patches/patched versions of the HMI drivers for the GUS? If these aren't available via ftp, is there a commercial package I could buy that has the updated HMI drivers (did someone mention EarthSiege?) BTW, WW22 uses DOS4GW, so no SBOS or MEGAEM - QED. -- :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: Jon Holt (holt@camax.com) - CAMAX Manufacturing Technologies ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 22:23:41 -0600 (CST) From: ST4FX@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: Manley drivers and GM midi I wanted to ask about someone's opinion on the GM support of Robert Manley's OS/2 drivers. How exactly does it work (does it patch cache, does it load a generic set of patches, does it make YOU load patches before the game, etc?) Also, is this a one time registration with future upgrades free or should I wait till native OS/2 midi support is added to register? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 10:35:35 GMT From: Clarke Brunt Subject: Re: new midi drivers >What I wanted to know is, in what way are people >getting a shit sound with the latest windows drivers. >They say their midi sound is awful, but surely the >sound cannot be affected by the drivers, as they can >only control the midi information. The sound is produced >on the card and is [not??] controlled by the windows driver. >Please can somebody clear this up for me. My editorial addition there. The GUS card does *not* directly understand MIDI, so there is plenty for the driver to do. All the GUS does (with each of its 32 voices simultaneously) is play a chunk of waveform stored in its RAM, with volume ramping, possibly looping, and one or two other effects. It's the driver which has to allocate a free GUS voice to each note (or cut off the oldest note if you are trying to play more notes than there are voices) and then switch the card between the attack, sustain, and decay phases of the note, so there is plenty scope for it to produce 'shit' sound. That said, I haven't tried the newish drivers yet, so I haven't seen the problem (if any) first hand. Many thanks to those who picked up on my suggestion that you experiment to get your CD-Audio-in cable the right way round by panning a *MIDI* file. I was going to say e.g. find a CD that has the violins on the left, or whatever, but that sounded difficult, so my brain wandered off onto MIDI, which as was pointed out DOES NOT GO THROUGH THE CD PINS at all! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:58:00 GMT From: keith_smethers@lnetbbs.win.net (KEITH SMETHERS) Subject: Origin influence Below are results from the poll Origin has of its callers to their BBS 1(512)331-4446. If you want to influence them, give'em a call. GO GUS! (oh, don't mistake the new user questions as the poll, it asks the same questions). Answers Matches -------------------------------------------------- ------- A ... Any Soundblaster (except AWE32) ... 2212 ( 62.4%) B ... Soundblaster AWE32 ... 218 ( 6.1%) C ... Logitech Soundman (Any) ... 48 ( 1.3%) D ... Gravis Ultrasound (Any) ... 98 ( 2.7%) E ... Pro Audio Spectrum ... 416 ( 11.7%) F ... Sound Galaxy ... 49 ( 1.3%) G ... Ensoniq Soundscape ... 33 ( 0.9%) H ... Other ... 342 ( 9.6%) I ... None ... 125 ( 3.5%) ------- Total ... 3541 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 14:24:26 -800 (PST) From: Matt Bachand Subject: REbel Assault w/G:US Message-ID: I know this is old, but i just got a copy of REbel assault for cheap, I looked everywhere in FAQ's etc to find if there is some kind of fix for the Crappy gus sounds, so I ended up writing it here... THank you. BTW, is there a way to get the WORKING HMI drivers on FTP site so i can play Earth sieve w/support? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 11:42:31 -0500 From: mng@tse.com (Mark C. Ng) Subject: Rise of the Robots I just got rise of the robots . To get it working with GUS, for 'ANY' sound and with out 'hanging' the system, I have to use: sbos -o3 There is no music and no digital effects, there is the odd tone from the sbos e mulation which is bad! music is suppose to be much better. Anyone know a solution to this to get digital effects? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 00:49:07 +1100 (EST) From: Iain Huxley Subject: Sound in Lion King Has anyone been successful in getting sound to work in Lion King? Gus is natively supported, but if I use DMA 5, I get no sound. If I use DMA 1 it crashes.. it's a real shame cos it looks like a really good game.. thanks, Iain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Iain Huxley * Electrical Engineering II * University of Sydney, Australia email: ihuxley@extro.ucc.su.oz.au WWW: http://www.usyd.edu.au/~ihuxley/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 10:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: Maillet Martin Subject: Speech cut in Gabriel Knight CD... OK, i ctually play Sierra's Gabriel Knight CD version without any problem of speech cutting. But in the past (before i leave my tiny 130mg HD, I had install GKCD with medium installation (about 20meg.) and i got some speech cut. Now (with my new 450megHD) I can spent the 30so meg. fot the full installation. And now, no more speech cutting. So if you use the GUS32.EXE (sierra 32 bit driver) with the full installation (30meg.) you probably got non problems at all. Hope that will help you ! Martin Maillet mailletm@ERE.UMontreal.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 94 20:15:12 +0200 From: tjakobs@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl (THEO_JAKOBS TEL.62667) Subject: Re: tie-fighter Hi.. There is no possible way for tie-fighter to run in Native mode, But LucasArts has supplied a special version of MegaEm with it.. (but you already knew that) Andre Jakobs MicroBrain technologies Inc. The Netherlands Oh LucasArts Why don't you bring out a version of Tie-Fighter/X-wing where we STARWARS freaks can play with eachother via a Modem/NetWork, Would Be F***ing COOL (and easy to program)... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 94 12:04:56 MET From: Herman Dullink Subject: US Experience > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:56:17 -0330 > From: Aaron Cameron > Subject: Ultrasound Experience Works!! > > To all those claiming the UltraExp won't work... > > Are you talking about the version that came in the cover-CD of this > months issue of PC-ZONE mag? (shouldn't matter where you got it, as long > as it is the version that runs under windows 3.x, as that's the one I'm > talking about). To run, the UltraExp requires that a windows driver That's true, there's no difference between the Gravis and the PC-Zone version. > called CD-audio driver to be installed. This driver !SHOULD! have been > installed as default with windows with the rest of the CDROM drivers, but This driver is NOT the problem. As this driver is the same with every version of Windows (and multimedia extensions). > probably was not (as mine was not, can't explain why!). Anyway, to get > the Ultrasound Experience to work, go into Control Panel, click on the > DRIVERS icon, select ADD DRIVERS, and add the CD-Audio driver. It will > prompt you for a Windows disk (disk 4, i think), so if your running a > pirated copy, better get the disks back from your friend or whoever :-) > Restart windows after adding the driver, and voila! No reason why it > shouldn't work. I've a reasen, it doesn't work with the Mitsumi FX001D drive and/or the v1.16 drivers. Somehow the drive or the drivers react differently on a play command when trying to play track 1 (which is the DATA track). The Mitsumi gives an error, the Panasonic simply ignores the command when you try to play a DATA track.... I assume the US Experience is developed and/or tested with a Panasonic or Sony, and not with a Mitsumi. Herman Dullink Groningen e-mail: csg669@wing.rug.nl ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V16 #21 *******************************