GUS Daily Digest Sun, 11 Dec 94 9:37 PST Volume 17: Issue 11 Today's Topics: 1MB gripes, note dropping, .WAV buzz AMD wavetable chip Gus and FPS:Baseball GUS Customer service GUS Daily Digest V17 #10 (2 msgs) GUS Max: Mouse movement => scratching sound on amp IDIOTS!!! Myst and GUS Noisy cards: anti-interference barriers? OS/2 Warp Help? Reflections on the new AMD InterWave IC Solution for Echoed Digests Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 17:00:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." Subject: 1MB gripes, note dropping, .WAV buzz Yes, I too, have my 1 MB limit gripe. I'm not sure if it's actually the problem, but could the 1 MB limit cause the note dropping in big MIDI files? I have a midi file called erasure.mid, and I notice some notes are skipped, but it also turns out that this file has lots of instruments playing at the same time, so I am wondering if the patch caching is being stretched to its limit. Also, couldn't Gravis get around this by using motherboard RAM as patch RAM? (Similar implementation as Jaleo's SuperCache?) I'm sure they can develop a driver that let's us select the amount of motherboard RAM for loading additional patches. Another Windoze problem is that my sound events have a harmonica/pitch pipe buzz at the end of certain files. This did not happen with GUS disks v3.53 and before, but happens with v3.56 and v3.57. Is there yet another update? Thanks. -Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 14:11:06 +1000 From: Ridley Williams Subject: Re: AMD wavetable chip > 1. The new chip is designed to be built in to the main PC processor. The rest of your message sounds pretty accurrate, but I doubt this one. I think you'll find it's made to be built into motherboards next to a CPU (perhaps local bus, etc). If they built it into one of their CPUs, it would instantly rule them out from being used in any Intel-based PCs, which is the far majority of the market. It would be nice if it were able to share memory with the CPU and access it directly, but I doubt it will. I also remember hearing that they're thinking of putting it into notebooks, which means it's probably 3.3 volt. -Jason P.S. IF ONE MORE PERSON QUOTES THE WHOLE DAMN DIGEST TO REPLY TO A MESSAGE... GROW UP! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 14:45:09 -0500 (EST) From: Philippe Chayer Subject: Gus and FPS:Baseball Hi, I just got this game, and all i get is crapy sound, could anyone help me figure out how to make the sound work properly ??? I presently use sbos and it is less than perfect... Philippe Chayer chayer@info.polymtl.ca _________________________________________________________cut here______ If it's there and you can see it, then it's real. If you cannot see it and it's there, then it' transparent. If you cannot see it and it's not there, then you deleted it... ;) See ya !!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 23:06:58 +0200 From: timo@hieti.pp.fi (Timo Hietikko) Subject: GUS Customer service Francis Li wrote: >I have e-mailed this problem to tech1@gravis.com, but I don't know when >I'll get a response... > I also had some problem with my GUS and I e-mailed my problem to tech, but I have not get any answer. Is this customer support Gravis ??? (I have solved my problem via usenet news groups). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 15:49:27 -0600 (CST) From: John Patrick Lestrade Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #10 > From: "K.S. Holly" > Subject: Careful with GOOD TIMES! > > Anyway, I read my mail through a modem pool so I'm safe but I hope no one > else had any problems..... > Kevin LET'S STOP SPREADING THIS CRAP! YOU DON'T GET A VIRUS BY READING THIS MESSAGE!!!! -- John Patrick Lestrade | Begin PGP Public Key cnesta::lestrade or SSL::lestrade | ``Open Sesame'' lestrade@ra.msstate.edu | End PGP Public Key ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 17:00:11 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #10 On Sat, 10 Dec -1, GUS Server wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 22:25:12 -0500 > From: Christian Brideau > Subject: OK I fixed it > Message-ID: <9412092225.aa28519@macdonald.revcan.ca> > > I know how they do it to subscribe the digest to itself. (EH IT'S NOT ME!!!) > Just to let you know that I unsubscribed it. I'm not going to tell how I > do it, because some smart asses may want to give it a try... I'm willing > to do it everytime some net-hooligan does it again. (It takes only a minute > od my time) > > Christian O. Brideau > Analyst > Revenue Canada > Not the forged e-mail thingy is it? I knew about that but I can unsubscribe the digest really quick if I knew someone sent a forged e-mail to subscribe it in the first place. Too bad, I have no way to track where the forged e-mail is from since the server doesn't keep a copy of the e-mail request so I can check the headers. Thanks for fixing it though. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:59:19 -0700 (MST) > From: Jeffery Chin > Subject: Posting apology > > Massive apologies for that error, I did not mean to repost the whole > digest, but I was logged off by call-waiting and did not know that the > message was sent. > > Please forgive the error. > Guess everyone makes a mistake, you're forgiven since it's Christmas but next time, remember to disable call waiting when you are using your modem or just set your s9 or s10 register to a longer duration so it doesn't cut you off. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 10:08:45 -0500 (EST) > From: "K.S. Holly" > Subject: So, it begins again.... > > So, I see that we have multiple digests again......&*$%#^@&@^#%$$ > > I noticed that one of these inclusions was a mistake by a reader, not the > server. Jeffery Chin I think his name was, included the whole digest in > his posting. An apology may be an order there.... > His apology was really fast. > As for the other one, maybe someone is sabotaging the digest by > re-subscribing the digest itself as a subscriber? > Someone is forging e-mail and I have no way to track it down since I don't have a copy of the mail. > Anyway, I hope it doesn't get as bad as before.... > Hopefully not. > > Kevin > Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 19:01:57 -0500 From: fta@wbb.com Subject: GUS Max: Mouse movement => scratching sound on amp The subject sums it all up: Whenever I move my mouse, I hear a scratching sound from my amplified "puny" speakers that keeps on scratching (or clicking) until I stop moving the mouse. This happens at ANY time, whether in a program or out of a program, in DOS or in Windoze, with a mouse driver or without, with an OS or before the OS boots (ie. during POST). The only software link I can find is this: the scratching becomes LOUDER as soon as the mouse driver loads and stays at that level until a cold boot (but not a warm boot). My equipment: a green 486dx2/66 (Award 4.05g BIOS and PC Chips chipset???), a very "noisy" VESA video card with integrated HD IDE (UMC "Bullet" card), an I/O/FD card, an HD, an FD, and a GUS Max rev 1.8 with software disks v3.57. My settings are the default all DMA 1, SB IRQ 5, and GUS IRQ 11. The GUS is hooked to mid-sized "computer" amplified speakers. I suspected the mouse driver, and have tried the microsoft mouse drivers v7.0? and v8.2?, as well as the one that came with my mouse, but there is no difference. I also tried switching DMAs and IRQs, but nothing happened. The only other thing I may try is systematically trying all DMA and IRQ combinations. In other words, HELP! Plastic mice aren't supposed to make scratching noises! --------------------------------------- | Call me "FRED" | | | Toronto, Canada | <.................> | --------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 10:30:00 -1320 From: david.wei@uniserve.com (David Wei) Subject: IDIOTS!!! Message-ID: <2ad.873.47@uniserve.com> Can those idiots stop quoting the ENTIRE digest!!! It is getting VERY annoying to re-read the entire digest AGAIN!!!!! Hey Vince, how dose digest subscribe to itself?? L8r ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- david.wei@uniserve.com (David Wei) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 19:39:55 -0500 (EST) From: Warren Ouyang Subject: Myst and GUS Hi, I am having some minor problems with Myst and GUS. Some of the sound effects are messed up. At first, all the door opening and closing sound fx as well as most other digital sound fx were messed up...sometimes, I'd get clicking and sometimes I'd get an annoying beep...and sometimes (very rarely) I'll hear the correct noise...someone suggested using usnd547.zip and now it kinda fixed some of the sound fx in that the correct sound comes out more often now but they dont' work all the time... for instance, doors dont' always make the creaking sound (most of the time, you just hear a short clicking sound)... although it has fixed the annoying beep...also, like in the bell tower when you pull on the large lever to reset the numbers, it hardly ever gives the correct noise of the gears rotating... is there some way of fixing all these bugs? Also, it appears that the digital sounds can only be played on at a time... for instance, when you turn on the furnace and the tree elevator starts moving, you only hear the sound of the fire while the sound of the elevator is just an annoying clicking... is there any way to fix this? and final question, how come all the animated sequences have no sound? The Mac version has sound during most of the animated sequences.. (like the bridge appearing in Channelwood or in Channel wood, when you extend the pipe...) Warren Ouyang E-Mail: warreno@cnj.digex.net IRC Handle: Globetro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 19:25:40 -0500 From: fta@wbb.com Subject: Noisy cards: anti-interference barriers? Hi, all! In an earlier message, I wrote about a problem I have with my mouse and my GUS Max. I also get a lot of noise on my GUS because it is installed two slots away from a combination VESA video card and IDE harddrive interface (the UMC "Bullet" card). I have to plug my GUS in one of the VESA slots because the GUS Max is one HUGE card (listening, Gravis? Integrate some of that stuff!). My floppy and harddrive hang out over the motherboard, so the only alternative would be to plug the GUS in a cramped space directly over the CPU and between the harddrive and the video/ide interface. (Following me so far? :) I opted to put the GUS right over on the left side, and put everything else to the right of it. Anyways, this still means that my GUS Max is two slots away from the video/ide interface so harddrive accesses occasionally give me a popping noise. Some of that constant static-like noise may also be due to the video card. Is there any way to cure this? Some kind of a barrier available that I can put between my cards? I can live with this problem (scratching noises whenever I move my mouse is much more annoying), but any suggestions would be appreciated (and should probably be submitted to the FAQ as well). --------------------------------------- | Call me "FRED" | | | Toronto, Canada | <.................> | --------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 03:06:49 -0600 From: jyang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jack Yang) Subject: OS/2 Warp Help? Ok guys, I'm sure there are a Billion and one questions that were already sent about this but I just got OS/2 Warp (I think it is fantastic) but Don't know how to get the sound to work with my Gravis. Can anyone mail me with the correct formula there. i.e. tell me what to do, or point me in the direction or tell me where to download the necessary stuff?.. Thanks in advance. Jack jyang@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 21:37:59 +0200 From: Yossi Oren Subject: Reflections on the new AMD InterWave IC Concerning the post of the guy whose friend saw a compo in Germany, I think the news aren't as pink as you paint them. Face value, the GUS claims to be SB compatible, and the GF1 is one megamondo DSP (dedicated DSP is the marketing term they made up for it. Add the fact that the rough wiregrams we saw earlier showed pin-outs for a FM emulator. I'm not saying it's all bad. Frankly, this is the best news I heard in the digest for a while (the drivers scheduled for November will beta in December? Win32 development cut for Warpies? 2PAT goes shareware? I've got the blues). You can't argue with the fact that it will access more RAM, and like legendary AMD products across the board, "It Will Cost $50"(tm). I can't wait until Advanced Gravis goes OEM and we see the Reveal Sound Galaxy US Pro or whatnot hit the shelves. Yossi. PS Oh, a simple workaround for the repost disease would be to simply put the number of lines in the digest in the topic line. Most command-based readers offer a scroll feature (VM/CMS MAIL lets you type a number), which basically solves it. |IN REAL LIFE: |IN PHYSICAL REALITY: |lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il |In level 03 Basic |Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"), |Training, Israeli |Windows user and mercenary VB programmer. |Defense Forces. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 23:14:38 -0500 (EST) From: Len Moskowitz Subject: Solution for Echoed Digests It's frustrating to get a new GUS digest and have three quarters of it be echoes of the old digests from broken addresses. One simple solution is to add one line to the header: Reply-to: Len Moskowitz moskowit@panix.com ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V17 #11 *******************************