GUS Daily Digest Tue, 13 Dec 94 9:37 PST Volume 17: Issue 13 Today's Topics: Digital audio End of the Windoze Probs. FPS Football Pro '95 GUS Daily Digest V17 #11 (2 msgs) GUS Daily Digest V17 #12 (2 msgs) MS Sound System Compatibility? Noisy cards: anti-interference barriers? Off Board Parity Errors in Windows. Peanuts School and the GUS Previous digests plz Reading Audio directly (digitally) from CD Setup changes autoexec.bat to all caps?? Subject: GUS Customer service Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 09:20:52 +0100 (MET) From: Dick Verweij Subject: Digital audio I made a program to transfer cdrom audio directly to harddisk. Below you can find a list of working drives. Main purpose is to download CD digital audio data straight from your CDROM to your HARDDISK. Without any SAMPLING ERRORS/HISS/DESTORTION. In FULL 16BIT, 44100 HZ STEREO SOUND. NO NEED FOR A SOUNDCARD!! With synchronized read/write to eliminate errors. UPLOADED TO: FTP: archive.epas.utoronto.ca DIR: /pub/pc/ultrasound/submit FILE: cdinfo14.zip DRIVES WITH SUCCESS: cdrom drive [SONY CDU33A] driver name [SLCD.SYS version 1.71a] MSCDEX version [2.22] cdrom drive [ MATSUSHITA / CREATIVE] driver name [SBCD.SYS] MSCDEX version [2.23] cdrom drive [Panasonic CR-562-B] driver name [ CDMKE.SYS] MSCDEX version [2.23] /* must confirmed by more users cdrom drive [Philips CM-206] driver name (*.sys) [DD260.SYS Version 1.41] MSCDEX version [2.23] */ cdrom drive [SONY CDU-55E] driver name [ATAPI.SYS v2.17a] MSCDEX version [2.23] NO SUCCES: cdrom drive [SOME MITSUMI FX Series] Error: Sector not found errors, also with other cdda-readers! cdrom drive [SOME NEC series] Error: General failures. (Sorry still vague) cdrom drive [SOME TEAC series] Error: Read faults (hardware ??) cdrom drive [SOME TOSHIBA series] Error: General failures (the last drives have all 3x or 4x speed, so that could be it?) -- DickyDick email: hpverwei@cs.ruu.nl ONLY A DICK MAKES IT POSSIBLE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 20:50:45 -0600 (CST) From: Left Tackle Subject: End of the Windoze Probs. Well, I finally solved all my Windows setup problems with the version mismatch. Thanks to all those who gave me advice on this. (especially jfulmer) Anyway, here's what I did, in case anybody's interested... First, I went into my system.ini and took out every single mention of Gravis, including all the drivers. Then I deleted the GRVSULTR.386 and ULTRASND.DRV files from my windows/system directory. I then completely deleted my ultrasnd directory, and did a fresh install of the 3.53 install disks. Ran windows, and it actually worked. Spiff, huh? :) On a different note, does anybody have any good (preferably non-crippled) DOS sample editors? Gold Wave works great, but damn, it runs SLOW on my computer... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 20:42:00 -0500 From: richard.morey@factory.com (Richard Morey) Subject: FPS Football Pro '95 Hello - Has anyone gotten their Ultrasound to work with Front Page Sports Football Pro '95 ?? The game has native GUS support, but accoding to Sierra/Dynamix tech support the driver Gravis supplied is no good.. has oneone gottena patch / fix for this game that works ? Please help me!! I bought this game with the belief it would work with the GUS.. I can get choppy digital audio using MEGAEM but I'd like to get clean sound.. Reply to RICHARD.MOREY@FACTORY.COM Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 00:54:12 -0330 From: Aaron Cameron Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #11 On Sun, 11 Dec 1994, GUS Server wrote: > LET'S STOP SPREADING THIS CRAP! YOU DON'T GET A VIRUS BY READING THIS > MESSAGE!!!! Well, actually, it's not impossible for mail to be destructive. Actually, it's pretty damn easy. In fact, I could send somebody a message that would cause their terminal screens to garble and become unreadable just by putting about 15-20 specific standard characters as the subject of my message. Anybody using pine or a simmilar unix mail reader would not be able to read their mail AT ALL, untill they manually removed the code from their mail spool (which can take a LONG time to find if you're looking for 1 small line of characters among 3 back issues of the GUS digest with IDIOTS quoting the whole digest over and over and over...). Anyways, the moral of this post is to show that Unix, though a great multi-user platform, has more loopholes and security holes in it that 20 pounds of swiss cheese. Don't worry, though, people. I doubt anything serious is happening, but don't think that it's IMPOSSIBLE!! Cheers AC PS... he who speaks before he thinks must then pry his foot out of his mouth with a crowbar. /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | *** ***** WELCOME TO MY WORLD! | | ***** *********** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | ** ** ***** *** It's really not that bad... | | *** *** **** once you get used to it! | | *********** **** | | ************* ***** *** ---------> Aaron Cameron <--------- | | **** **** *********** Memorial University of Newfoundland | | ***** ***** ***** ---> acameron@europa.cs.mun.ca <--- | | I take no responsibility for ANYTHING, even if it IS my fault! | \---------------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 03:53:09 -0700 (MST) From: KKAHN@cc.weber.edu Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #11 I upgraded to windows 3.11 which is a new release from microsoft. I guess it's just updated drivers and stuff for ver 3.1 which has been around for some time now. It only cost $7.90 with microsofts special $25 off coupon. Anway, since installing it, my gus max won't record any sounds to hard disk. When I try to use WAve to record to hard disk, it just records silence.. Everything else seems to be working just fine.. any clues anyone.???? KKAHN@cc.weber.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 16:33:31 -0500 From: akwong@bme.synapse.net (Adrian Kwong) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #12 >Subject: CDRom recording-Rom recording >I'm working on a project where We're trying to give a >soundcard (we're using a MAX) a digital line-in, but at the >moment this is giving us big problems. (damn integrated >chips) Now I wanna know how many CD-Rom players have the >possibility to record audio directly on a HD using a program >like CDGrab Pro. I know the mitsumi drives can't. My own >CD-Rom (a philips CM206) is giving big trouble too (general >failure on command read long), but how about the Matsushita >drives for example or the Panasonics, Sony and Trust. >I'd like to hear from people what drive they have and if >they're able to record in the way described above. I have a Panasonic CR-562. I have had great success using a program called CDINFO version 1.4. However, I have had some problems with using Telarc Digital CD's. I think some of them are recorded in 18-bit. I have successfully read in the title track to the Chiller CD (Erich Kunzel and the Cincinatti Pops Orchestra) and playing back the digital recording on the GUS is absolutely PHENOMENAL! It however, had a few errors, but I think the errors occurred in the Thunder cracks, so you never really "hear" the glitches. Does anybody else have any success with 18 bit or 20 bit recording? (ie, Sony GOLD disk recordings) --- =========================================================================== Adrian Kwong akwong@bme.synapse.net 613-726-6762 Bald Mountain Ent. ak605@freenet.carleton.ca Ottawa, Ontario =========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 22:08:47 -0800 (PST) From: gdaswani@orion.csci.csusb.edu (George Daswani) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #12 > > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 14:06:30 MET > From: (Martijn de Jong) > Subject: CDRom recording-Rom recording > > Hi Gussers, > > A while ago there was a discussion on the digest about > recording data from Audio-Cd's directly through the databus > on your harddisk. It made it possible to record stereo 16 > bit without having a soundcard. > I'm working on a project where We're trying to give a > soundcard (we're using a MAX) a digital line-in, but at the > moment this is giving us big problems. (damn integrated > chips) Now I wanna know how many CD-Rom players have the > possibility to record audio directly on a HD using a program > like CDGrab Pro. I know the mitsumi drives can't. My own > CD-Rom (a philips CM206) is giving big trouble too (general > failure on command read long), but how about the Matsushita > drives for example or the Panasonics, Sony and Trust. > I'd like to hear from people what drive they have and if > they're able to record in the way described above. > > Thanks in advance, > > Martinus. > Hello there Martinus. There's only two manufacturers of CDROM drivers that I know that this feature works on.. One of them is Matsushita. (Panasonic). Both the CR-562B and the CR-563 (double speeds) can grab the data from the CD through the bus. Actually there's a public domain program called CDGRAB or something like that that let's you grab it and save it as a wave file.. The other manufacturer that I know of is Toshiba. This feauture should work on the 3501 and 4501. I have tested the Panasonic drives myself so I'm sure it works.. If you are going to get a panasonic, I suggest grabbing CD-GRAB also from an ftp site somewhere.. IF you can't find it, then e-mail me. Lates.. George Daswani ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 13:59:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" Subject: MS Sound System Compatibility? Is the GUS or the GUSMax officially compatible with the MS Sound System? I had someone email me asking, and if it is I would like to put it in the FAQ. Thanks for any info... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris DiPierro: cdipierr@wam.umd.edu | Major(s): CS && ??ASTR?? University of Maryland at College Park | CS && Space == cool == -270 C Gravis Ultrasound (GUS) FAQ Maintainer | Current GUS FAQ is: v2.02 [94/11/16] To quote IBM: "Think" | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~cdipierr/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 12:33:34 MST From: "Dean C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Noisy cards: anti-interference barriers? > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 19:25:40 -0500 > From: fta@wbb.com > Subject: Noisy cards: anti-interference barriers? > > Anyways, this still means that my GUS Max is two slots away from > the video/ide interface so harddrive accesses occasionally give me a > popping noise. Some of that constant static-like noise may also be due > to the video card. Is there any way to cure this? Some kind of a > barrier available that I can put between my cards? > > I can live with this problem (scratching noises whenever I move > my mouse is much more annoying), but any suggestions would be > appreciated (and should probably be submitted to the FAQ as well). Here is a possible solution that I HAVE NOT TRIED MYSELF, but read someone's post about it a long time ago, and it seems plausable. Put a couple of layers of aluminum foil inside a SEALED anti-static plastic bag. ( the tinted plastic bags that circuit boards come in.) Then place it between you GUS and the interferace source as a barrier. If someone does this, let me know if it works. -Dean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 16:51:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "Robin W. Glover" Subject: Off Board Parity Errors in Windows. Hi, I've recently re-installed my system, having re-partitioned for Linux, and I now get 'OFF BOARD PARITY ERROR AT 0000:0002' when starting Recording Session if my external MIDI keyboard is switched on. If I switch the keyboard off, and then start Session, then switch back on again, I can record and play fine (both to synth and keyboard), but then if I close Session it crashes. Once again, if I switch the keyboard off before closing, all is well. Now, this never used to happen before, so I'm all perplexed. I'm using the 3.56 Install disks, without any exciting settings, (I/O=220, IRQ=5,5, DMA=7,7). My midi connector box is a home-brewed affair, but has worked fine in the past, and I really don't think it's that at fault. I know that the GUS uses NMI for something to do with the midi side of things, and presumably traps the NMI most of the time, so I suspect that it's failing to trap it during the startup of recording session. Anyway, it's all a bit of a pain, not to mention perplexing, so any suggestions? Cheers. Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Robin Glover | Did you really want to talk about | | Department of Meteorology | the weather, or were you just trying | | Reading University, UK | to make polite conversation? | | swrglovr@reading.ac.uk | - Groundhog Day | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 10:49:25 +0100 From: Robert Virding Subject: Peanuts School and the GUS Peanut's School (correct name for English version?) has finally come in Swedish. I was planning to buy this for my kids but something I read on the box made uneasy. It said that a Soundblaster compatible soundcard was required. I find this very strange seeing it is a Windows program and would presumably use the Windows sound drivers. Can anyone help me and tell me what this means? Does it try and hit a soundblaster directly and not go through the Windows drivers, or what? Thanks in advance for any help, Robert ---------- Robert Virding Email: rv@erix.ericsson.se Computer Science Laboratory Tel: +48 8 727 34 52 Ellemtel Telecommunications Systems Laboratories Box 1505, S-125 25 DLVSJV, SWEDEN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 14:49 EST From: 000082937@UCIS.VILL.EDU (LIFE IS A GREAT ADVENTURE) Subject: Previous digests plz Can someone please send me the general/music/sdk digests from 17-09 to 17-11 inclusive.. having the digest so large killed my mail account... Thank you, Harald van der Kam 000082937@cats.ucis.vill.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 23:43 MET From: hst@mh.nl (Klaas Hemstra) Subject: Re: Reading Audio directly (digitally) from CD >I'm working on a project where We're trying to give a >soundcard (we're using a MAX) a digital line-in, but at the >moment this is giving us big problems. (damn integrated >chips) Now I wanna know how many CD-Rom players have the >possibility to record audio directly on a HD using a program >like CDGrab Pro. I know the mitsumi drives can't. My own >CD-Rom (a philips CM206) is giving big trouble too (general >failure on command read long), but how about the Matsushita >drives for example or the Panasonics, Sony and Trust. >I'd like to hear from people what drive they have and if >they're able to record in the way described above. > >Thanks in advance, > >Martinus. Hallo Martinus, I have written as program called READCDA (improving an original source from Yeng-Chee Su from Taiwan) that reads Audio data from a CD directly. It uses the READ LONG driver call. It has been reported to me to work ok on Matsushita (Panasonic) drives (562B & 563B) and on some Sony drives (COR334 & CDU33A). Mitsumi does NOT work, because the READ LONG call does not work properly (a belgium guy and i are working on fixing it by intergrating parts of the driver code in the program, IF we will succeed and IF it is possible to read audio...). Another program that is available on the net, CDINFO, has in it's release notes that a Philips CM-206 works ok also (with driver DD260.SYS version 1.41), next to the Panasonic & Sony drives. I suppose the program also uses the READ LONG driver call. Then there are a number of SCSI drives that can read Audio. The CDDA program works with that ones. Klaas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 21:47 EST From: HEGUIN@INDSVAX1.INDSTATE.EDU Subject: Setup changes autoexec.bat to all caps?? Hello all, I was changing the setup of my GUS card to get DOOM to play real sound effects instead of small pops for gunshots (I had to change the GUS's IRQ from 11 to 7) and I noticed that when the setup routine writes to the autoexec.bat file, it changes ALL the characters in the ENTIRE autoexec.bat file to ALL CAPS ( <== just like this ). I am using v3.53. Does the setup still do this for the newer install disks? I can't believe the setup routine does this stupid and totally unnecessary step. If it affected only the readability of the file, this would be bad enough; however, I had a line in my autoexec.bat which sets the default options for the text editor that I use. The option 'k0' causes the editor to leave the keyboard repeat rate alone; the option 'K0' causes the editor to immediately return to the command line with the error, "option 'K' is undefined". It didn't take me very long to track down the problem and the cause, but this is because I know my machine's setup rather well. I can imagine that a novice user could get spun around in circles with something like this. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 13:12:57 -0500 From: GravisTech@aol.com Subject: Subject: GUS Customer service Francis Li wrote: >I have e-mailed this problem to tech1@gravis.com, but I don't know when >I'll get a response... > >>I also had some problem with my GUS and I e-mailed my >>problem to tech, but I >>have not get any answer. Is this customer support Gravis ??? >>(I have solved my problem via usenet news groups). Tech@gravis.com is our sysop and he get alot of mail in a day.. so much in fact that he is always behind on it.. therefore if an answer is expected within a day or so.. I am sorry it is not possible. I on the other hand am alway "ON THE JOB" so to speak, as my load is not so high, I am able to answer alot faster... Gravistech@aol.com Advanced Gravis Technology ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 14:23:49 -0800 (PST) From: George > I've compared some (not all!) patches. A lot of the PP3 patches sound > better than de original ones, but they are usually a *lot* bigger. So I > also compared the patch sizes and only replaced patches by others that > were not too big. This is my list of replacements: > > calliope.pat 36527 19-06-83 6:45 > cymcrsh1.pat 66185 7-04-83 18:44 > cymride1.pat 45137 7-04-83 18:47 > doo.pat 181943 14-06-83 7:05 > epiano1.pat 68671 14-03-83 21:31 > fx-fret.pat 13221 14-06-83 4:12 > hihatcl.pat 27189 14-06-83 13:57 > homeorg.pat 95217 19-06-83 6:48 > hrpschrd.pat 248683 14-06-83 4:08 > kick1.pat 24171 15-06-83 22:14 > kick2.pat 36849 14-06-83 14:15 > marcato.pat 156197 21-03-83 11:57 > ringwhsl.pat 70107 16-06-83 0:05 > stickrim.pat 22583 14-06-83 13:45 > voxlead.pat 75297 8-04-83 16:46 Can you also please include which files did these patches come from? There are 19 PP3 zip files and I don't want to bother downloading all of them just for the patches listed here. Thanks. > not a lot bigger (some of them are even smaller). If you have > suggestions for other replacements (e.g. patches that are not in the PP3 > archive), please mail them to me. I would appreciate it if you could > tell me where I can find the patches (ftp-site, directory and filename), > since I don't have direct ftp-access (only ftp-by-mail). I prefer > patches <100k. Try the gsdrumXX.zip series and the e_xxxxxx.zip series released by Elysium Entertainment (sp?). Dunno where the files are but check the mirrors. Lastly, can someone please upload the grand piano patch found in the UltraSound Experience CD to the epas site. It's not because I don't want to pay $7 bucks for the demo, but I have no access to a CD-ROM drive. For those of you who want to know if it's legal to upload it, it is okay, according the Advanced Gravis. Thanks, -George ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V17 #13 *******************************