GUS Daily Digest Tue, 3 Jan 95 9:37 PST Volume 18: Issue 3 Today's Topics: AIL 3.0, AOD: How to get sound (no music) Clicks in 16bit playback in Windows Colonization Converting .MOD .MTM to .WAV to make an Audio CD Crystal Codec...The real story (or at least a bit realer) Crystal CODEC chip Front Page Sports Foorball '95? GUS in warp DOS/Windows? GUS max and windows GUSMAX w/ VLB system Indy Car Racing v1.0 MegaEm countdown Midi with OS/2 drivers? MYST and GUS new megaem PME Midi kit somes questions Tech Support email? Ultima 7 (u7gus.zip) and GUS version 3.59 of GUS disks now on EPAS When GUS drivers in OS/2 2.1 don't work. Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 12:42:01-010 From: amfg@cic.teleco.ulpgc.es (Angel Fern'andez Gonz'alez) Subject: AIL 3.0, I got WARCRAFT to work with my GUS MAX with 1mb. I have perfect cached patches and digital effects. I am using AIL 3.0 drivers . I found them in the PC FORMAT UK CDROM edition.( D:\mission\(something more). I found there a 22k ultramid, UMID.DGI and UMID.MDI. I also had lots of problems with distortion with my MAX using headphones. They were solved when I began to use volume controlled headphones or speakers. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 12:18:58 EST From: David Ball Subject: AOD: How to get sound (no music) I get sound (but no music) in Aces of the Deep (3.5" version, with or without 1.1 path) with the following procedure: Edit RESOURCE.CFG file: In the sound section, change driver to e024 (e028 for max). Set port to whatever you use (probably 220). In the music section, change driver to a002. Set port to 228. The sound test in SOUNDSET should work and you should get sound in the game. Music does not work though. -- Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:31:38 -0700 (MST) From: rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Ryan Korniloff) Subject: Clicks in 16bit playback in Windows I know this has been discussed before, but I missed it. Whenever I playback a 16bit recording in windows I start to get clicks and breakup after about 4 or 5 seconds of play back. It sounds great 'til that 4 or 5 second mark.. What's up?? I have drivers dated Jan 94.. a year old now.. Have newer ones been released? I have a GUS rev 3.4 1MB RAM and a 486/66 8MB RAM. thanks for your help.. -- Ryan Korniloff -- rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:50:01 +0500 From: michael@canada.lsil.com (Michael Smith) Subject: Colonization Over Christmas I picked up a copy of Colonization (Great Game!) and tried to get it to work with my GUS. I tried MEGAEM and SBOS - both of them do produce sound but they kill my mouse! Without MEGAEM or SBOS, the mouse works great. I recall reading that someone has a patch for Miles drivers, could someone let met know the details on this? Thanks! Michael Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 15:36:38 -0600 (CST) From: ENNSS@NHRISV.NHRC.SK.DOE.CA Subject: Converting .MOD .MTM to .WAV to make an Audio CD I have been trying out my CD-ROM burner, and am going to make an Audio CD. I would like to put a bunch of my favorite .MTM and .MOD files on this CD - Will any of the .MTM/.MOD players write a .WAV (or .AU or whatever) file? I could record (analog) the output from my GUS while playing the file, but I would like to keep the process entirely digital if possible... Hopefully I'm missing something really obvious, but I can't think of a way to convert the .MTM/.MOD into a nice 44.1khz file for the CD. Have I just fogotten about some MTM2WAV program? Any suggestions much appreciated... S.E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:58:13 MET From: (Martijn de Jong) Subject: Crystal Codec...The real story (or at least a bit realer) Hi Gussers, Many nonsense about the Crystal Codec lately. Here's a bit more... At home, I don't have a MAX, so I also hate to see that there's a SBOS for MAX only, but I think it was about time that Gravis started to use this CODEC-chip on their MAX. The CODEC-chip (Actually it is a Chrystal Semiconductor CS4231) is the most standard chip on most nowadays soundcards. Normally it is used as an AD-convertor, DA-convertor and as a compressor using the ADPCM and other techniques. On the GusMAX it is to my astonishment only used as an ADC. The output still went through a separate DA-convertor (Philips AD1545). The CS4231 isn't the most inexpensive chip, so only using it for the 16bit recording is a bit strange I think. I don't have the data sheets of the chips at hand (I do have them at home) but I guess the decompressor part has some kind of intelligence. I guess it's this part Gravis uses for their MAXSBOS. I think it was about time Gravis made the MAX a bit more attractive since you have to pay a lot more for it and get only 16bit recording back (and of course these cdrom-interfaces, but who needs them). Just an opinion... Martinus. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 03:09:41 -0500 (EST) From: PINKERTONA@delphi.com Subject: Re: Crystal CODEC chip >I thought there was no signiffigant hardware differences between the GUS >and the GUSMAX. So what's the deal with the Crystal CODEC chip then? I >own a MAX (for the CDROM interface, mainly) and it's amazing. So what's >in the Crystal CODEC that the standard GUS ain't got? Just wondering. > I know you have received several responses but (in my opinion) none of them seemed to answer you question. The following are excepts from the gus sdk 2.21: 5. Chapter 5 Mixer 5.1. Introduction Revision 3.7 and above UltraSounds have had a new mixer added to them. This document will not attempt to describe how the internals of the mixer works. If you want more detailed information that is provided by this document or the example code in mixer.c, you can get a data sheet from ICS or an ICS data book. The part number is ICS-2101. You can contact ICS directly at: Integrated Circuit Systems, Inc 2435 Boulevard of the Generals P.O. Box 968 Valley Forge, Pa. 19482-0968 Phone # (215)-630-5300 or Phone # (215)-630-5399 5.3. Notes To determine if one of these mixers is present, you MUST look at the revision of the board. This can be determined by reading port location 7X6. If the value read back is FF, then no revision ID is present and means that the version is pre-3.4 and therefore no mixer is present. If the revision is between 5 and 9, then the version number of the base UltraSound is 3.7 or above. All those versions will have this mixer. If the version is 10 or above, then it is an UltraMax. This mixer is NOT used on an UltraMax. The codec on the UltraMax has a mixer built into it. See chapter 6 for more information on that. 6. Chapter 6 16 Bit Codec Functions 6.1. Introduction Both the 16-bit daughter card and the UltraMax use the same chip to perform the extra recording and mixing functions. It is built by Crystal Semiconductors CS4231 Audio Codec. This section will describe how it fits into each of those boards. It will NOT describe much about how the internals of the CS4231 work. To get a data sheet on the part, contact Crystal Semiconductor at: Crystal Semiconductor Corporation P.O. Box 17847 Austin, TX 78760 Phone # (512) 445-7222 Fax # (512) 445-7581 6.2. Features: - 8 or 16 bit playback and recording - Up to 48kHz - 2 DMA channels for simultaneous playback and record - 8 or 16 bit DMA channel selection (software selectable) - Multiple data formats - Linear PCM data - u-law compression (2-1) - a-law compression (2-1) - ADPCM (4-1) - 10 microsecond granularity timer - Extensive mixer - Line in level adjust - Line out level adjust - AUX1 and AUX2 input level adjust - Mic input level adjust I hope this helps. Alan Pinkerton pinkertona@delphi.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 11:15:33 -0800 (PST) From: "David HL. Hoang" Subject: Front Page Sports Foorball '95? Can anyone get this game to go with Gravis sound? I can't find a way to make it work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:19:36 +0100 (MET) From: tgakem@chem.tue.nl Subject: GUS in warp DOS/Windows? I'm sorry if this was asked before, I haven't read the general digest for some time. I used OS/2 2.1 until I got my GUS, along with the Musicator for windows, that needed to run in windows enhanced mode. In OS/2 2.1 it was not possible to use the GUS in windows or DOS sessions like you would in MS-DOS + windows 3.1. * Has this become possible in the new OS/2 warp? * Is this in any way related to the existence of GUS drivers for native OS/2 applications? * Shouldn't this be in the FAQ? I'd be very interested to learn from your experiences. Eric Meijer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:57:43 EST From: rschutt@pen.k12.va.us (Ryan Andrew Schutt) Subject: GUS max and windows If anyone has gotten their GUS max to work under windows in a 486/DX2 VLB system, mail me and tell me how ya did it!! I am getting no where!!! Ryan Schutt rschutt@pen.k12.va.us ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:36:03 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Batchelor Subject: Re: GUSMAX w/ VLB system Not the GUS Server once wrote... > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:47:12 +0800 > From: jchen@hs.hkis.edu.hk (Jonathan Chen) > Subject: Re: GUS max and windows > > [...] > That brings up another question - does GUS Max have an incompatibility > problem with VLBus systems? (or specifically 486/DX2 VLB Systems) So far I > have not seen a GUS Max work correctly with one of those systems. Is anyone > out there using their GUS Max on a VLBus system without any problems? GusMAX worked here on my 2-year-old OPTi 495SX VLB motherboard, and still works great on my new OPTi 895 VLB motherboard. I use(d) a Fahrenheit 1280VLB on both boards, and on the older board, I first had a Promise VLB IDE controller, and then Adaptec 1542CF, and now just the Adaptec on the new 895 board. I have used DX33, DX2-50 and DX2-66 CPUs with them. I use these settings: SET ULTRASND=220,1,7,7,5 SET ULTRA16=32C,0,0,1,0 SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T1 I also use the Max's Mitsumi CD adapter at 340, IRQ 10. The Adaptec is at 334, IRQ 11, DMA 6. -- \\\ Mike Batchelor /// mikebat@clark.net \\\ M.Batchelor@babylon4.clark.net /// "The avalanche has already begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 95 08:49:00 PST From: "RMJONES.US.ORACLE.COM" Subject: Re: Indy Car Racing v1.0 In Saturday's digest Adam Lloyd asks: > does anyone know of a patch or fix that will allow me to use both the > music and the sound effects at the same time. Right now I only get only > muisc or only sound effects (I refer to the tire sounds, and the bumping > sounds) If anyone can help please post me. > > Adam. The story is... Yes there is a patch disk, but this only improves the music you get whilst looking at the menus. For any sort of game sounds, you'll have to run it with sbos -o3. (Nascar does have native support though, and sounds great...) Rod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 17:09:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Wong Subject: MegaEm countdown > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 23:19:07 -0800 (PST) > From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." > Subject: MegaEm countdown. > > Well, we must give Gravis all the leeway possible, so when they said > MegaEm will be out by the end of this year, I reckon they have about 40 > minutes left to keep good their word, or offer yet another explanation. > I hope it will fix things for regular games as well, such as X-Wing, > which, when I play it, sometimes have the speech playing really fast, or > really slow, or with something said at the wrong time, such as my > destroying a tie fighter and then my wingmen saying something like > "Roger, using designated target." I've read that the symptom of digitized speech playing really fast or really slow is a problem with using the DMA setting that you have. I think that if it's 0 or 1, you may run into a problem. In any case, try changing your DMA channel on the GUS to something else, and then running X-Wing again. I've read that you should not run X-Wing with QEMM that is in Stealth mode. IF you are, either turn Stealth off or try EMM386. The problems you've described have been described for people with TIE Fighter too, so I just assumed that they were one and the same. Hope this helps! ._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._. | Jason Wong -- From sunny Markham, Ontario, CANADA | | ah937@freenet.toronto.on.ca jason.wong@canrem.com | |._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.-+`^'+-._.| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:14:59 -0800 (PST) From: Public Image Subject: Midi with OS/2 drivers? I d/l'd and installed the .31a OS/2 drivers, just for kicks, so I could get MIDI with GalCiv. Guess what... Digital works fine, Midi is silent. 486/66 17 Megs RAM big HDs. GUS w/1meg and 16-bit DB Ethernet Card (never conflicted with anything else) -Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Scott Call aka Zapo Zapper | Public Image Limited BBS 510-831-3634 | |VBBS Support/anime stuff | Owner: Atari Jag and Gravis Ultrasound | --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 02:28:21 CST From: epyle@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Eric Pyle) Subject: MYST and GUS I saw MYST CD at the store and it looked interesting (anybody like this game?), but I confused about its sound support. is it windows only game? eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 21:26:29 +0200 From: sniiran@freenet.hut.fi (Samuli Niiranen) Subject: new megaem So Gravis where's the new megaem ?!? Finish it fast, and do NOT disappoint us with a megaem without patch cacheing, SB pro support and full compability with all applications;) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 05:47:54 +0100 From: A.PAUW@elsevier.nl Subject: PME Midi kit > On another note, has anyone else purchased the midi box KIT from PME? I > just got mine and it only had 2 midi sockets with it instead of 3 but the > schematic calls for 3. Also I was disappointed to find that there is NO > cable or box with it! If you are considering buying one of these kits, > spend the extra $7 and get one that is assembled with a cable and box. > > Kevin > I bought an assembled midi box from PMe. Yes, I know, I could have build one myself, but am a bit lazy with this. The assembled box also has only two sockets. About the box itself, I don't know if the kit should include the box. If you want to know for sure then send them an e-mail and you'll get a reply (heard that Gravis?). If the schematic has a midi thru socket and you want one then just build it. The signal is simply a buffered version of the signal on the midi in socket. Quite simply really: take the signal from the midi in socket but on the point where the current signal (midi) is converted in a voltage signal and fed to the connector to the gus. Buffer this signal with something like an digital AND port (I think 74LS07 or something, low power) and send the output trough a resistor again, et voila, your midi thru. Personally I don't think midi thru is handy for a soundcard in a PC. It only will be handy if you use the PC/soundcard combination as a standalone sound source driven by an external sequencer (another PC?) or synth. I use mine for the `master' output. Mind you, PME has other goodies too: a midi interface with windows drivers (check out their price). Because of windows ability to use more midi interfaces at once this could be handy. And a midi merger, to combine more midi signals into one. Good luck, Albert a.pauw@elsevier.nl ------------------------------ Date: 03 Jan 95 10:04:15+0100 From: Vincent RAYMOND Subject: somes questions Hello, I still have some questions ? What is the price and what is the type of RAM j must put in my Gravis Ultrasound Max to obtain 1 Mg from 512 k ? My version of indycar racing is 1.09 and the last patchs from the server don't allow me to obtain engine sounds ? How can i find the other versions of Indycar ( 1.2 ? ) mentionned in the .txt of the patchs ? You don't speak much about EarthSiege ? Is it good and is it working with the Gravis ? Thanks for all your answers and keep the way. Vince. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 00:09:27 -0600 From: lala@interaccess.com (Imre Olajos) Subject: Tech Support email? HI, Anyone knows where can I reach Gravis Tech Support on the Net? Yeah, I know they suck, I just want to give it a try. I remember they have an address at aol and gravis.com but don't know the exact addresses. Thanx, Imre OLAJOS, Jr. (LaLa of TranSByte) lala@interaccess.com ___ __o U.S.A. (Chicago suburbs) ___ _-\<,_ Tel/fax/modem: 1 (708) 595-7038 ___ (_)/ (_) _-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 02:25:47 CST From: epyle@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Eric Pyle) Subject: Ultima 7 (u7gus.zip) and GUS Well, I got u7gus.zip and copied the right *.adv files into the static directory. But how does anyone get enough conventional memmory to run Ultramid and Serpent's Isle? I can get dos up high, but I can't load anything else high cause I need emm386 which runs in the "offensive" protected mode. eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 11:25:26 -0600 From: Don Eller Subject: version 3.59 of GUS disks now on EPAS I downloaded, and attempted to install the latest version 3.59 of Gravis Ultrasound install disk. Unfortunately, I can't get past the "Please put disk 2" prompt. What gives Gravis, I've tried the following with no success. 1) put each zip in it's own subdir, ie disk1, disk2, etc. Ran install from disk1 subdir, and couldn't get past put disk 2 in drive prompt. 2) put all files in one subdir, ie install.exe, gus.001, gus.002 etc. Ran install and couldn't get past prompt for disk 2. 3) built install disks 1-6 with install, gus.001 etc on diskette1, gus.002 on diskette2 etc. Ran install from diskette1 and couldn't get past prompt for disk 2. 4) Looked at gus 3.56 install disks, didn't see any label, but decided to try this next. Tried label on diskette2 of disk2, then disk 2, then disk002, then disk.002 all with same result. Is there supposed to be some file like diskid02, on each install disk, is install.exe messed up? Anybody had success with this yet? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 14:30:04 -0800 From: Tony Scarpino Subject: When GUS drivers in OS/2 2.1 don't work. > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 12:33:10 +0000 > From: "Marc Y. Paulin" > Subject: GUS drivers in OS/2 > > GUS day people, > > I'm trying to install the alpha Gravis OS/2 drivers in OS/2 2.1 > (I know, I know, I'm moving to Warp next week). The installation > says that it's modifying my CONFIG.SYS file, but when I look into it, > nothing has been added or changed. I still have the same ol' > CONFIG.SYS. > Can anyone mail me the lines to add or modify so I can do it > manually? Thanks a lot. > > Jurassic Mark - markus@nbnet.nb.ca - Marc Y. Paulin A friend and I had that problem when we tried to install it also.. It also didn't display the configuration window for the drivers during the installation.. I assume this is the problem you are experiencing. If you look at control.scr, it has some commented out lines. They should be in the readme, cuz it is an important note. If you have v1.1.1 of MMPM, it will not install.. You need 1.1.3. v1.1.1 comes with the purchased version of OS/2, at least the CD my friend had. v1.1.3 is in the 2.1 Service Pack.. To fix it you only have to download the MMPM disks and disk 2 (3.5 format). The reason for disk 2 is the MMPM disk require a different version of unpack than what came with the normal 2.1. So, replace unpack, install the new MMPM, and then install the GUS drivers and it will work fine. If you have the Service Pack installed already, well then that is a different story :). Tony ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V18 #3 ******************************