GUS Daily Digest Wed, 1 Feb 95 9:37 PST Volume 19: Issue 1 Today's Topics: 32 bit AIL Computer Music bibliography Daughter Card for GUS Gus & Armored Fist GUS Daily Digest V18 #27 - System Shock CD (fwd) GUS Daily Digest V18 #29 Indy Car Racing - Drivers? Maxbos on Rev2.4 Gus? MAXSBOS MaxSBOS v.021 Mega-Em problems Memory parity... Memory upgrade for GUS Max Midi-connector for GUS Midi files/software archives on the Internet Myst and GUS NMI problems number of ultrasounds sold? SBOS/Intel Pentium MB problem solved Sound in Magic Carpet? USNF and GUS VL-bus in ISA VLB in ISA WinMidas 1.03 Beta Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 7:58:17 PST From: David Burton Subject: 32 bit AIL I can't find the 32 bit AIL drivers. They are not on epas gravis/util as indicated in the index. Where can I get them? I am trying to get Sim City 2000 to work with GUS. Thanks, davidb@mcm.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 01:11:41 +0100 From: Piet van Oostrum Subject: Computer Music bibliography There is a bibliography on synthesizers, midi, computer and electronic music that I have collected from various sources. I have tried to bring some structure into it, but not all books will fit into a single subject. NOTE: I haven't read these books, and the comments are from other people. The latest version of this file can be obtained by ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in pub/MIDI/DOC/bibliography or by mail from mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (send a message with HELP in the body). From the mail-server the filename without pub/ should be used. The latest monthly version is also available in the various news.answers archives around the world, in music/midi/bibliography. Version: $Id: bibliography,v 1.25 1994/09/08 12:24:00 piet Exp $ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:25:55 -0500 (EST) From: gt0074b@prism.gatech.edu Subject: Daughter Card for GUS Someone asked this a while back, but no one answered. Does the 16-bit recording daughter card for the old GUS give it the same Crystal DAC as the GUS Max? In other words, will Max SBOS work fully on an old GUS with the 16-bit recording card? If not, Gravis, will there ever be such an option for us old timers? I believe we are still in the majority and it would be a good seller. If I had more time, I would like to try to design a daughter card to do that. Heck, it wouldn't be too much more to put a full fledged sound bastard on a DB, complete with the wonderful Yamaha synth. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 15:40:13 +0001 (EST) From: KEVIN BULL Subject: Gus & Armored Fist Ok, if this has been answered b4, I apologize for posting this (I just got the game). I have checked the G-List and it says "native ?" with the question mark... When I select sound card setup, there is no gravis. SBOS just seems to crash it. Is there anyway to get sound in this thing? Thanx --------------------------------- E-Mail: kb94aa@badger.ac.brocku.ca --------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 20:37:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Angeles Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V18 #27 - System Shock CD (fwd) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1936831231-143302914-791613240=:85375 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Well, I've got System Shock CD to work with my system. I did this by using the Ultrasound 3.0 AILs. I copied _only_ the ULTRA.* files to another soundcard's AIL files which is the closes to the GUS that I can think of. For your info, I copied the ULTRA.* files over the SNDSCAPE.* files (Ensoniq SoundScape). Then, I ran the installation utility, and selected the soundcard that now contains the Ultrasound AILs (e.g.: Ensoniq SoundScape). Next, I used the autodetect option in install. After that, I ran the test utility. I heard a message from SHODAN from the sound test, and a cheesy midi tune from the music test. Then, I ran the game, and everything runs fine. The only -small- drawback to this is that my system tend to access my hard drive and pause the game when I run the game with the new AILs for the firsttime, and when I hear any new midi tunes. When I play it the next time, the problem does not reoccur. I think that happens because it is a patch-caching AIL, and it searches for all of the instrument patches it needs in order to play the midi tune. Once it knows what to load, it'll only load those patches prior to playing that tune again. Other than this, the sound is really cool, especially when you listen to the intro, and the messages. The only exception is that the midi tunes aren't all that great to start with (my opinion - probably will change when I get further in the game). If you follow this example, you should get SS CD to work for your GUS. FYI: Archive file name: usail310.zip (BEWARE - There is another GUS 3.0 AIL which requires ULTRAMID. DON'T USE IT!) Location: somewhere in archive.orst.edu - recently moved away from epas Location of SS drivers: sshock\sound (from the hard drive) Files I've overwritten: sndscape.dig, sndscape.mdi (try experimenting - might get better sound from other sound- card files. If you do, plese tell me...) GUS type: Ultrasound MAX (This should not make any difference...) Onboard GUS DRAM: 1024K (This might make a difference if you have a 512K 256K GUS. If you have any problems, upgrade...) GUS software version: 3.59 (This also should not make any difference...) GUS settings: Address 220, IRQ 5, PB DMA 5, REC DMA 6, CODEC 32C, SB IRQ 7 (The last three settings probably won't make any difference at all.) If you tried everything, and you still have trouble, I don't know what to say ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 23:46:09 -0400 From: "Chris Campbell" Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V18 #29 On Mon Jan 30 09:37:06 PST 1995, GUS Server wrote: >Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 11:54:00 +0200 >From: jani.forssell@pcb.mpoli.fi (JANI FORSSELL) >Subject: Sam & Max CDROM >Does someone know how to get digital sound working with Sam & Max >CDROM-version? Megaem doesn't work because it's a dos4gw game and I >sbos gave only fm music.. Do I have to wait the new megaem or what? You might want to try the new version of SBOS, it loads into a 512k GUS or a 1024k GUS. >PS. I have a normal gus so maxsbos doesn't work either. The update has been on EPAS for 2 days! -- Chris Campbell - Port Hawkesbury, Nova Scotia ftp://ftp.nstn.ca/in.coming/campbell/ "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 20:43:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Quentinus Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V18 #30 On Tue, 31 Jan -1, GUS Server wrote: > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 13:20:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Christopher McKillop > Subject: Just a few questions and thoughts... > > Here they go, a bunch of stuff I have been wanting to ask (I hope I can > rememeber it all)... > > 1) XWING: can someone tell me how to get everything to sound right with it?? What's wrong with it? There's the odd weird noise, but nothing that's really annoying, except I guess the spaceship whine on the animations. > 3) GF2: Is there one, and when will it be out and how much will an upgrade, > if possible, be??? Yes, there is supposed to be, Gravis say late this year. So anyone's guess :) As for an upgrade, you'll be lucky. The chip is bound to be a completely new pinout and design, and anyway you'll need a new board so there are slots for the extra RAM! > 4) Pmode MegaEm: Where the heck is it??? It is almost Feb 1995!!!!! > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:18:30 -0800 > From: sbrindle@netcom.com (Stephen Thomas Brindle) > Subject: Re: Last word on Myst: > > Sorry, I tried that and Myst still sounded like a dusty, scratchy phongraph. > It's my final opinion that either Myst just does not work with a GUS, or > Myst just has really terrible recording. Works fine on our gus. > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 14:42:53 -0400 > From: j5oa@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Craig Galbraith) > Subject: MAXSBOS and GUS rev 2.2 with 1Meg RAM > > Can I use maxsbos with my plain old GUS rev 2.2? I wanna try using it with > X-COM Ufo Defense...I heard somewhere that it made it sound MUCH better. > > I downloaded maxsbos and whenever I try to load a game with it...I get no > sound, now, is that because I suck? or is it because I just plain ol' can't > use it? Digital sound won't work with MAXSBOS, because it uses the extra digital sb16-type chip that's built into the ultramax but not the ordinary gus. > another thing, since SBOS works with some protected mode games, as it > supposedly is integrated more in the hardware of the GUS, why not make > Mega-Em interface with the GUS like SBOS, but with the Sound Canvas > emulation? Oh well. Just another waiting person for vaporware (I hope > not!). This isn't possible (MegaEm interfacing with GUS hardware for SCC emu) because the GUS was specifically designed to be able to emulate an SB. All the hardware port registers that an SB has are present on the GUS as well, but they just generate an interrupt that SBOS handles rather than actually doing anything. However Midi interfaces and sound cards use different port numbers (0x330 I think?) for which the GUS does not have the special `dummy' ports. Sam --> Home Page <-- ** Go on, try it! ** --> http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d405ua <-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 20:29:44 CST From: "Jay R. Jaeger" Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V18 #30 > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 23:08:34 -0800 (PST) > From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." > Subject: Off board parity error > > >Just a guess, but this would seem to mean that the machine does not believe > >any software has been set up to catch the NMI interrupt. Two things come to > >mind that I can think of, and maybe others can think of more: > > > > - SBOS was not really loaded and ready (did is speak "SBOS > >Installed")? > > - Something wrote over the interrupt vector after SBOS was loaded. > > > >If you are currently loading SBOS in your autoexec.bat, you might try moving > >it towards the end of the list of things you do in autoexec.bat. > > Here's the strange thing, it says this *after* a warm boot that I do when > the game crashes the machine. The problem disappears when I don't load > emm386.exe. SBOS was loaded, and the only thing that the docs say about > the interrupt vector being overwritten is under netware. Anyway, why What does your EMM386 line look like? Mine is: device=c:\bin\emm386.exe noems highscan win=f500-f7ff win=f000-f4ff > would there be a parity error after a warm boot? Another thing I would Because SBOS isn't there to field an NMI, but the GUS is generating one - maybe it is still raised after whatever problem caused you to reboot -- the game crash. Instead, you might try a *reset* in that situation. > like Gravis to do is to rewrite SBOS so that it can coexist with > emm386.exe *and* a protected mode game at the same time. Of course, this Now that might well be impossible. Protected mode might not like NMI at all. Not at all, as far as I know, though I am not a true expert. -- Jay R. Jaeger dotjrj@dot.state.wi.us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 12:34:45 -0700 (MST) From: Keith M Ellis Subject: Indy Car Racing - Drivers? Message-ID: Hi all you GUS'ers. Good to see the digest back - this is my first post to the "new" GUS Daily Digest. Was it my imagination, or were there (ail?) drivers for ICR out there? I've been using Megaem, and getting uneven results. I get some strange FX problems like "I'm Paul PagPaul PagPaul Pag" repeat ad nauseum. And, the engine noise is unsatisfying. I suppose this is inescapable with a wave card (with no fm) - all you hadrware gurus can clue me in on this. Racing around the track with that satisfying (not quite a roar) humm was the only time I've ever envied a SB owner. Not very much, though. :) Anybody got that cool real-time digital delay processing program which was just validated to work? I get mostly noise, and then it crashes. Is it dependent on any particular hardware GUS version? -Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 16:15:44 EST From: "Brian K. Dowtin" Subject: Maxbos on Rev2.4 Gus? I tried it w/ once with a couple of games I have a 2.4 rev. board. And it seemed to make the music much better, but I had no SFX - and I think it crashed one or two of the games if I enables SFX. 02 `Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 23:38:52 -0500 (EST) From: CWSMART@delphi.com Subject: MAXSBOS Can someone give me a location for downloading the MAXSBOS latest version Thanks for the help ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:21:45 +0000 (GMT) From: A.M.Zanker@newcastle.ac.uk Subject: Re: MaxSBOS v.021 In a previous message, you wrote: > Anyone tried the new v.01beta? Works great!!! They've fixed some problems > with DOS-extender games, now even digitized effects work in Magic Carpet. > Great work Gravis. All we need now is the new PMODE megaem and goodbye to > compability problems! This is all very well, but what about owners of the standard GUS? Do Gravis intend to develop more advanced versions of SBOS and megaem for us?? Mike -- Mike Zanker | A.M.Zanker@ncl.ac.uk Department of Mathematics and Statistics | University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK | PGP public key available ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 13:03:35 -0700 From: Stan Page Subject: Mega-Em problems I am trying to load MEGAEM.EXE from version 3.57 software. I get a message saying EMM incompatibility problem: EMM internal structure is not recognised. Mega-Em version is 2.03. I am running EMM386 3.0 from the Novell DOS 7 system. The settings are Frame=C800, ROM = AUTO, DPMI=ON. I also have DPMS 1.01 loaded, but it won't work with DPMS unloaded, either. I have tried the NOEMS setting, since I am not currently using expanded memory. Any suggestions? BTW: My machine is a 486/33 VLB board, 8mb RAM, VLB video and disk controllers, 2 hard disks, CD-ROM and the GUS. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 20:47:44 -0500 (EST) From: lalancej@JSP.UMontreal.CA Subject: Memory parity... Can the sbos or megaem work with memory without parity?? I know they use the NMI, so i'm a bit confused, why could they put memory without parity if the NMI is there to catch up parity error....Correct if i'm, wrong. I think it is my problem because nothing worked so far with sbos... Anyone experienced the same thing? Please help me! -- Jose Lalancette, Dept. Informatique Universite de Montreal e-mail: lalancej@jsp.umontreal.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 12:53:23 -0700 (MST) From: BUUR@CDMDSV.sinet.slb.com Subject: Memory upgrade for GUS Max I have been trying to get a memory-upgrade for my GUS Max for 2 months now and it seems that it is impossible to get that in Denmark. Q:Are there anyone outthere who can tell me where I can get it, and how much it costs. I have been reading through the FAQ, but all i could find was upgrades for the 256Kb GUS, where you have to put in 8 chips (i think), but in mine there is only one socket. Please can anyone help me, I'm getting desperate. Michael (Buur@Esbjerg.dowell.slb.com) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:07:33 +0100 From: Karl Erik Asbjoernsen Subject: Midi-connector for GUS Does anyone have a description for a MIDI-connector-box for the GUS? I had a textfile once, but it's lost thanks Karl Erik Asbj=F8rnsen, karlea@oleg.hiof.no ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 01:11:41 +0100 From: Piet van Oostrum Subject: Midi files/software archives on the Internet There is a list of ftp and mail server archives with MIDI documentation, programs and music on the Internet. Also enclosed is a list of MIDI and electronic music related mailing lists. The latest version of this file can be obtained by ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in pub/MIDI/DOC/archives or by mail from mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (send a message with HELP in the body). From the mail-server the filename without pub/ should be used. The latest monthly version is also available in the various news.answers archives around the world, in music/midi/archives. Version: $Id: archives,v 1.118 1995/01/23 10:59:05 piet Exp $ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 19:35:27 -0600 From: jfulmer@databank.com (John Fulmer) Subject: Myst and GUS >Sorry, I tried that and Myst still sounded like a dusty, scratchy phongraph. >It's my final opinion that either Myst just does not work with a GUS, or >Myst just has really terrible recording. You have to remember that Myst is only using 8-bit 11khz digital data, so it always sounds sorta bad. That is probably the reason for the 'scratchy' sound... jf *--------------------------------------------------------------------* |John Fulmer(jfulmer@databank.com)| * Internet Solution Provider * |Databank, Inc | * Technical Support * |Lawrence, Ks. | * All Around Great Guy... * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 02:21:04 -0200 From: VASQUEZ@if1.ufrgs.br Subject: Re: NMI problems > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 12:13:23 -0800 (PST) > From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." > Subject: Off board parity error > > > off board parity error > > addr (Hex)=(0000:0002) > > system halted > > -Peter I had this problem when I changed my DMA to a 16-bit one. Try using another channel - DMA 7 works for me. High DMAs are 5, 6 and 7. Hope this helps, jOrge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 13:10:22 +0100 From: Stig Arne Olsen Subject: number of ultrasounds sold? Has Gravis released any information as to how many GUSes have been sold so far? Any other estimates? Stig stigo@ifi.uio.no ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 16:10:27 CST From: "Joe G. Thompson" Subject: SBOS/Intel Pentium MB problem solved For those having trouble using SBOS on Intel 60 and 66 Mhz Pentium motherboards: I just upgraded to the latest version of BIOS (1.00.10.AF2T) and it solved many of my problems with SBOS. I can now use the bus mouse at the same time and I'm getting better results (e.g. digital effects in ICR). Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 16:12:57 CST From: "Joe G. Thompson" Subject: Sound in Magic Carpet? Has anyone succeeded in getting music and digital sound effects out of Magic Carpet with a *regular* GUS? If so, how? Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 11:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Bachand Subject: USNF and GUS Message-ID: I realilze there is a Patch for USNF, but I am very interested in buying this game adn I want to know weather the GUS works 100% with this game or not. This seems like a really cool game, But i don't want to be teased with cool graphics and no sound. ALso, what are the overall feelings of this game. I have a Plato 90 Pentium with 16megs of memory and a Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM card w/2megs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:15:33 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Batchelor Subject: Re: VL-bus in ISA Not the GUS Server once wrote... > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 21:21:27 -0500 > From: adu@freenet.vcu.edu (Andrew Du) > Subject: local bus > > Anyone know what will happen if a VL-bus video card is placed > in an ISA slot? Your machine will refuse to boot because the video card won't work. I doubt it will break anything. You'll hear a sequence of beeps, which, if you look in your PC's manual for what they mean, indicate a failed video card. -- \\\ Mike Batchelor /// mikebat@clark.net \\\ M.Batchelor@babylon4.clark.net /// "The avalanche has already begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 15:58:38 -0600 From: bbaskin@mail.utexas.edu (Bryan K. Baskin) Subject: VLB in ISA Hey Y'all, Not that i'd recommend it, but just to try, i put a VLB Viper in my piece of shit ISA machine and it worked, to an extent. Only the VGA part worked. But it worked. It did not, however work in my friend's 486DX50-VLB board. I guess the Viper didn't like 50MHz. But really, don't bother, that's not what they're made for. On another note, i tried GusDelay yesterday, and had a lot of fun with it. Kudos to the author. I'm assuming the noise i do hear is from the 8-bit nature of the recording, etc (i have rate at 44100). If this is true, then a 16-bit version for the GUS Max would be really nice. Baskin -) The University of Texas at Austin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:15:21 TZ From: Daryl James Subject: WinMidas 1.03 Beta Has anyone been able to get this MOD/S3M MCI device driver working? When I run setup for the driver, it does not seem to detect the GUS and the only choice for "Device" is Windows Wave (the option for Gravis Ultrasound is dimmed). Of course it works if I choose "Windows Wave" but it sounds bloody awful and hogs the CPU to do the mixing. The dox dont seem to help with troubleshooting, but the history does mention that it checks SYSTEM.INI for the sound devices currently installed. Why it does not detect the GUS baffles me. I have tried editing the SYSTEM.INI directly to see if I could fool it into using the GUS, problem is I dont know what the setting for a GUS should be. I am using V5.47 of Ultrasound drivers with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and no tsr's or device drivers beyond standard config with a GUS. Any ideas on how to get this going would be appreciated. - Daryl Sydney, Australia ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V19 #1 ******************************