GUS Daily Digest Sat, 25 Feb 95 9:37 PST Volume 19: Issue 25 Today's Topics: Final Unity GUS and OS/2 GUS Daily Digest V19 #24 (3 msgs) GusMax + Qemm7.5 + SmartDrv + MKII GUS OS/2 driver update? Jostick Problems with MKII. Lands Of Lore and digitized speech Magic Carpet Ms Magic School BUS - no MIDI at all %^{ Stuff Upgrading Win95 & GUS info - thank you! Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:37:57 GMT From: alek@linefeed.com (Alek Hayes) Subject: Final Unity Hi All, >You may like to know that after talking to a chap at Spectrum Holobyte about >Final Unity I was told that GUS support for this good looking game may not be >available for the release version. What the hell?? That's it. If they do that, I'm bombing parliament. >They say this is due to problems with the game slowing down when the GUS is >used. > >This seems to be the usual excuse I hear for lack of support for the GUS. Can >anybody help them ?. I'd be mightly p****d off if this was to happen. Hold on, I thought that the Gus's speciality is that it does it's own mixing, therefore freeing up processor time for the game so it can run faster. To me, it seems like a f*cking stupid excuse. Besides, isn't a Final Unity supposed to be a Windows game? In that case it wouldn't matter. Ok, ok, lets take it a step at a time. Has Spectrum Holobyte got an email address? If so, someone print it here so that we can bombard them with nagging mail. Wahey! Bfn! Alek. -- ___________________________________ This message was posted by Alek Hayes | Email me about life, the universe | Alek@linefeed.com | and everything. | | * | | But please, nothing about AWE32's | ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:24 -0500 From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) Subject: Re: GUS and OS/2 >Hy there, could any OS/2 (WARP) user tell me something about using my GUS >with it? I was originally thinking of waiting for windows 95, but now I >heard that wasn't goning to be release until next year, (So it'll probably >won't even be named Win95) And I read a comparison in a mag which prefered >OS/2 warp above Win95. So I'm thinking of trying OS/2 warp, but first I >would like to know how well it goes with my GUS (And, for that matter, how's >the compatibility with DOS and Windows?) The short answer is that the GUS has 3 sets of drivers available, 2 shareware and one free from Gravis. Since I haven't used the 1 set release, I won't comment on them. The 2nd set, Robert Manley's driver, has been very good for what it does, which is WAV output and MIDI (to an external synth only) in OS/2. If you register it, he'll ship ya the DOS Box Roland support that will give you MIDI under WIN-OS2. I don't think it gives you WAV output under WIN-OS2. Gravis's alpha OS/2 driver gives you WAV and MIDI under OS/2 and pretty much nothing under WIN-OS2. Gravis is (supposedly) improving the driver as we speak. The normal Windows 3.1(1) drivers WON'T work under OS/2, as they are .VxDs and VxDs aren't supported under OS/2. I've found that enabling system sounds causes some pauses due to having to swap in the MMPM sound stuff. But that's the price of a multitasking OS. For things like sound in movies, the Manley drives work fine. They used to have a problem with turning off line-in, but that's supposed to be fixed. OS/2 has lots of system sounds for opening/closing windows, drap/drop, error boxes, at the end of a slider, etc. Not to mention the sounds in various OS/2 native games. Before I used the drivers, I could indeed get the GUS to work in (DOS) games such as 7th Guest and Ultima Underworld, although I had to use an 8-bit DMA channel. Even using sound in OS/2, these things should work for full screen DOS sessions (and who tries to play games in a window? It worked for Ultima Underworld, but things were tiny!) DDA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 19:44:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Sam Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #24 On Fri, 24 Feb -1, GUS Server wrote: > > Subject: Patches, Patches, Megaem and drivers > > > > Hi everybody , > > I am getting really disppointed of how gravis is managing the ultrasound. > > You send the card and you dont get anything for two years. I think Gravis and Corel are the only companies ever that we registered their stuff and got anything interesting (MS sent loads of junk mail and a marginally-useful magazine). Gravis sent us updated driver disks, and Corel sent us a christmas card! [Canada do pretty well in the replying-to-registration card stakes] > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:18:05 GMT > From: "Mark.Carline BSc Elec Eng." > Subject: Win95 + GUS Drivers - GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!! > > PLEASE!!! > > Will either Microsoft or Gravis get their act together for the soundcard > "Gravis Ultrasound" !! > > If they don't I can't honestly see the ultrasound being around on the > market place for very much longer !! Give them a break, they've got 'til August when Win95 is supposed to be released. > Hey! - Everyone out there that feels the same way - Why don't you mail > microsoft + gravis on : > > chicreq@microsoft.com and > tech@gravis.com > > and tell them that if they don't support the card you'll be throwing it a > way and buying a Creative Labs sound card instead!!! Don't think MS will be too devastated to hear that :> Anyway, come on. People might get desperate - but surely not desperate enough for *Creative Labs*? :> Sam --> Home Page <-- ** Go on, try it! ** --> http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d405ua <-- --> Latest Feature: BUGFIX: realtime fractalzoom in 3K (486/P5).. <-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 19:48:34 +0100 (MET) From: Jorgen Bergstrom Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #24 Hi. Anyone know how to get music and speech working with 'Wings of glory' from ORIGIN ??? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 20:22:47 -0600 (CST) From: ST4SI@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #24 Does MAXSBOS work with the regular gus with 256k memory? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 17:35:08 -0500 (EST) From: lalancej@JSP.UMontreal.CA Subject: GusMax + Qemm7.5 + SmartDrv + MKII HI All! It seems that the combinations in the titles don't works together... I can't use smartdrv with the ultramid for mkii because i get somes excption 6 or 13 error from qemm.... Can anybody help me...or tell me if there is an other disk cache available which can works with all the above?? Thanks! -- Jose Lalancette, Dept. Informatique University of Montreal e-mail: lalancej@jsp.umontreal.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:45:54 -0600 (CST) From: ST4FX@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: GUS OS/2 driver update? I know the Beta version is already out, and they work fine, but I was wondering if they were revising/adding to it some extra features, bug fixes, etc? I've been wondering why there hasn't been an actual release version out yet, especially since it seems that Win95 won't be out for a while and it would seem that Gravis could allocate more resources to OS/2. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:35:05 +0000 () From: "Eric M. Busalacchi" Subject: Jostick Problems with MKII. Message-ID: Ok, after driving to the store last night I was able to get MKII. Seems that the people I talked to at the stored were clueless (Suprised?), and it was right in front of their face on the shelf. Anyways, I am having a little problem. I have a Gravis Gamepad plugged into a Gravis UltraSound MAX and only two buttons will work at any given time, you would think they would work perfectly together... Well, I have tried just about everything I know, even using the 'Y' cable and stuff... But still nothin'. Which, sucks, because I am not using the keyboard to play MKII. :) Any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! :) -- Eric M. Busalacchi emb@herman.tiac.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 12:26:17 -0700 (MST) From: "ttait@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca" Subject: Lands Of Lore and digitized speech This has probably been asked a thousand times before, but here goes. I was wondering if there is any way of getting the digitized speech working in LOL without having to resort to going to a computer store and picking up a (YUCK) SoundBlaster (YUCK)? I have gotten the music and FX working fine, but the speech is a gross mush of noise. Is there anyone at Gravis or Virgin writing some new patches so that the speech will work with GUS? Or is this asking just too much out of life?? To anyone that replies to this message, Thanks. L8r Tim Tim Tait email: ttait@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Edmonton, Alberta Canada ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 11:39:37 -0800 From: "Dale Newcomb, Jr." Subject: Re: Magic Carpet ac446@rgfn.epcc.Edu (David C Gilliland) wrote: >Subject: Magic Carpet > >Okay, I'll admit it...I'm a newbie here and to the world of >gus. I just got it and Magic Carpet, but I can't for the >life of me get MC to work with any kind of emulation, ie >megaem or sbos (well, sbos works, but with mulched music >only) and I was wondering if anyone has a solution to this >problem. >Dave I searched through a recent digest (on the new WWW site which contains copies of recent GUS digests - thanks Ignatius!) and all I could find was mention of running main.exe from the \data directory on the CD drive. Unfortunately, the ftp-able demo version does not contain this file so I could not verify it. If you have the full blown game on CD, you may want to try this though. Anyone else know what I need to do to get the demo version to work with the GUS? I don't even care if it's crappy SBOS - just want to hear something! Dale -- ************************************************ ************************************************ *** ********** **** Dale Newcomb, Jr. ********* ***** Gemini Technology Corp. ******** ****** Phones: (714) 789-1932 ******* ******* (800) 827-1980 ****** ******** FAX: (714) 727-3066 ***** ********* email: newcomb@gemtech.com **** ********** *** ************************************************ ************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:02:57 EST From: Leo.Hinds@hawk.hcsc.com Subject: Ms Magic School BUS - no MIDI at all %^{ I tried to set up the MS Magic School Bus, but there seems to be no way to get the MIDI sounds to work. Following the instructions in the help file for the midi mapper &MS-MSB does not result in any improvement. Anyone know what I need to do? Thanks Leonard ------------------------------------ Leonard Hinds Sent on 02/24/95 @ 14:02:57 2101 W. Cypress Creek Rd - Ft Lauderdale, FL 33309 +305.973.5229 (voice) - +305.977.5580 (fax) E-mail: leo.hinds@mail.hcsc.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 21:00:44 -0600 From: bbaskin@mail.utexas.edu (Bryan K. Baskin) Subject: Stuff Hey Y'all, To Jayeson, Thank You for still working on Mega-Em, we all appreciate your hard work. Many of us out here also wouldn't mind at the least a conservative estimate of when the next version will be released. Surprise us. To Mark.Carline, Jesus, cool it man! First of all the GUS doesn't need Mircosoft and their Win95 to exist. Second, the drivers will be written because its Windows and everyone like Windows, right? Seriously though, you can't expect complete support for a piece of software that won't commercially exist for a very long time. Deal with it. And if you want to get a CL card, do so. Mabye that GUS will go to someone who appreciates it more. If you want GUS sound in a "real" OS now, we all know which one to pitch: Windows, not the GUS. Get Warped. To Remco Lam, To answer some of your questions: About the GUS: There are currently two sets of drivers for the GUS in OS/2, Manley's and Gravis's. Manley's support very good digital, midi through an external synth, and explicit DOS support including GM emulation and SB digital in the future. (Note Mega-Em and SBOS/SBOSMAX do not work in OS/2 DOS sessions. They ask for ring 0 functions which is not allowed.) Gravis's in their current alpha stage offer digital and midi in OS/2 and no explicit DOS support. Both worked fine for me. All system sounds, native games, etc that i tried worked with no problems. The Windows support is very good. Sessions can be run separately (For improved crash protection) or in the same session (to save memory). Win32s are supported as is WinG. The apps i use most work just fine including Quicken 3, WinEudora, Mac-in-DOS for Windows, and 123v4, etc. The internet apps for Windows also work just fine (this is written with Eudora). The DOS support is also good. Playmidi, Iplay, Scream Tracker, GLX, Spect, UltraMid, Timeless, SecondReality, Jaleo, SilverBall, Epic Pinball, One Must Fall, and Descent all work perfectly. Doom 1.9 and Raptor both have music and no digital. Heretic locks with sound on. Tie Fighter works fine, but obviously no Mega-Em = no sound. Many demos work fine. I need to register Manley's drivers... More normal apps work also. I've seen/tried VistaPro 3.01, Fractint/DOS, Turbo Pascal (i think that was it). A friend of mine has CD-Rom drivers, caching support, doskey, etc installed with 612K free. The amounts of XMS, EMS and DPMI memory is selectable. OS/2 is very cool, and with 8MB or more of RAM, a very nice OS. If necessary its also easy to uninstall. Check the appropriot newsgroups for more info. Or E-mail me. To others with Win95, Does Win95 allow SBOS or Mega-em to be run? Later. Baskin -) The University of Texas at Austin Team OS/2 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:14 GMT From: haydn@cix.compulink.co.uk (Haydn Evans) Subject: Re: Upgrading In-Reply-To: >I have a 1 meg GUS (upgraded), not the MAX. It came with >ver.2.06 software. I purchased THE ULTRASOUND EXPERIENCE CD-ROM >and tried to upgrade the software to ver.3.56. Unfortunately it >does not work... Many thanks to all who responded to my request. Both via this server and direct email. It was (as suggested) the drivers in v.3.56 at fault. I installed the UltraSound Windows Drivers - V5.34 (GUS0042.ZIP) and all is sweetness and music! In fact, the response was so good I have a couple more questions to ask :-) 1. I seem to recall seeing a Windows program that gives a graphical representation of a midi/mini system. Is there one available that will work with the Gravis? 2. I know someone who is having problems getting speech to work in Under a Killing Moon. Ideas anyone? ]-[aydn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 17:25:00 +0100 (MET) From: Espen Wang Andreassen Subject: Win95 & GUS info - thank you! I just want to thank those who explained the Win95<->GUS topic to me. (And thereby gave me plenty of good reasons why I shouln't buy Win95... :+)) ------------------------------------------------ - jeps - Student at University of Oslo, Norway - ================================================= Espen Wang Andreassen - espeand@ifi.uio.no ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V19 #25 *******************************