GUS Daily Digest Tue, 28 Feb 95 9:37 PST Volume 19: Issue 28 Today's Topics: Advanced Gravis to use AMD chips in next GUS? Cubic 0.95 and effects: church, hall etc. Do Gravis listen to this? Emulating VxD services under OS/2 F-14 Fleet Defender and more... GUS Daily Digest V19 #27 (2 msgs) GUS Daily Digest V19 #27, Gus and Cubase Internet Phone Interweave from AMD thingy iphone KINGS QUEST 6 HELP! Lands of the Lore MicroProse wimps out! missing file in Settlers missing file on Settlers Noctropolis & GUS space quest 4 & ultramid Ultrasound Bank Manager bug, (undocumented feature, whatever) Where is Maxsbos v0.2 Windows muted on start-up? Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 11:37:24 TZ From: Daryl James Subject: Advanced Gravis to use AMD chips in next GUS? I keep hearing the AMD/Gravis line and I was wondering if anyone has actually confirmed whether Gravis is really gonna use the AMD chip? I certainly haven't read anything posted here that confirms this alliance- or did I miss something? Thanks to all who posted the info about the new AMD chip- it certainly looks hot ! ... but was there any mention of the amount of memory it can address? Daryl James- DownUnder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 09:15:08 GMT+2 From: "Zsolt Parak" Subject: Cubic 0.95 and effects: church, hall etc. Dear Gusers, In Cubic player I can`t hear any differences with sound effects. I make the enviroment changes right but no change. This effects is only the AWE or it don`t working in this version or what??? But this player is the BEST player. Monster Lajos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:51:04 From: Subject: Do Gravis listen to this? Do Advanced Gravis actually listen in on this conference? I know they're going to have their own internet node 'real soon now' but at the moment I have found no easy way to get the Gravis bulletins available on their BBS. Calling their BBS is an expensive game from the UK. They haven't answered e-mail asking about OS/2 drivers and I don't know where to go to get their latest news. Is there another mailing list to get Gravis bulletins? If anyone knows about progress on the OS/2 drivers could they please let me know? If this question is in the wrong place - I'm sorry! Paul Bristow paul@quansoft.demon.co.uk "Another OS/2 using GUS MAX owner with awesome sound most of the time sand a spare SBPro for WinDoze under OS/2 (sob)" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: rjm@dciem.dnd.ca (Robert Manley) Subject: Emulating VxD services under OS/2 "Peter C. Chien Jr." wrote: > Subject: .VxDs like GUS drives in OS/2 > > Can't someone write some memory resident program that can "trick" the > VxDs into thinking they can call for ring 0 functions and let them run, > but won't actually let them take over the system? I'm sure there's some > way. Some kind of VxD emulator for OS/2? If a completely alien computer > like the PowerPC can emulate Windows with SoftWindows, certainly an x86 > OS like OS/2 can do better? I suspect that whoever can get this to work > will make *big* bucks! I looked at doing this but came to the conclusion that it would take an unacceptable amount of time given that MS are even publicly saying that their days are numbered: develop your driver for the NT model or be left behind! There has been a rumour circulating that an IBMer in fact accomplished this feat but the package was buried because it gave away too much in terms of system integrity - something that I guess MS aren't worried about very much for the years to come :). Hell, we can always rename a GPF to something else! Robert. -- # Robert J. Manley, NEW: rjm@dciem.dnd.ca # # NTT Systems Inc., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA # # OS/2:OSs :: 92,93 Blue Jays:MLB :: Canada:World # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 13:28:09 -0500 (EST) From: bill.hyman@ccmail.bsis.com Subject: F-14 Fleet Defender and more... I recently dumped my SoundBastard Pro sound card in lieu of getting a better card. The things that were important to me were: 1. Wavetable synthesis 2. Longevity (future support in games, etc.) 3. No background noise 4. Compatibility with older games After considering all of these points, and pushing Computer City's return policy to its limit, I settled on the Gravis Ultrasound MAX. I think the GUS Max addresses the first three points really well, but I am still having some problems with compatibility of older games, particularly with flight sims. I looked at the GLIST (game list) to check out compatible games, but noticed a lack of testing done on flight sims. Can anyone give me a more complete listing of how to get the card working with many of the flight sims. Here is my experience so far: 1. USNF - Got the GUS patch from Gravis, it sound awesome! 2. Tie Fighter - Once I found the custom patches for tie, it too sounds great. I am getting some joystick drift though. 3. X-Wing - No luck yet, but haven't tried too hard yet. Is there a set of patches for it like Tie Fighter? 4. F-14 Fleet Defender - Music works ok, speech works ok, but no sound fx. Please, please, please help me to get this working. FD is my favorite sim. 5. PAW - Haven't tried it yet, but expect that it will be like F-14 FD. 6. Falcon 3.0 - Haven't tried yet, but appears to be supported (GLIST sez so). 7. Wings of Glory - No luck whatsoever. If I don't get it working, soon, back to egghead it goes. 8. Strike Commander - Haven't tried yet. Does it work... Any help appreciated! What future flight sims will have GUS native support in them? What other flight sims work with the GUS (or don't work with it)? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Hyman - bill.hyman@bsis.com "Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking." - H. L. Mencken ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Sam Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #27 > Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 19:36:13 GMT > From: alek@linefeed.com (Alek Hayes) > Subject: Ultrasound Experience > > Hi! > > Can anyone tell me where I can get this CD in the UK? > Also, a brief description of what it consists of would be nice. :-) Ours came from the CD-ROM User Group. You should prob. see their adverts in magazines. They do supply non-members at an increased cost. A reasonably recent GUS driver update (one that works). Apart from that, it's got all the shareware games you already have, *and* - now this is the good bit - just about every demo up to the date it was released. (It has a copy of this section of the Gravis BBS). So it's a great disk for the price. Oh yeah and there's a presentation advertising GUS, which is OK for lending to your GUSless friends I suppose. Sam --> Home Page <-- ** Go on, try it! ** --> http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d405ua <-- --> Latest Feature: BUGFIX: realtime fractalzoom in 3K (486/P5).. <-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 23:46:49 +0000 (GMT) From: smarij@ismennt.is (Hordur Smari Johannesson) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #27 Hey Gussers I just wanted to tell everybody that having a cheap old sb@with my GUS saves me a lot of trouble in getting games to work. But I still prefer using my GUS so i usually end up emulating the music, but @think about buying an old SB if you're fed up with this emulation bullsh**. But don't give up on GUS! GUS forever! Hordur Smari Johannesson Halsasel 6 109 Reykjavik ICELAND ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 10:28:17 GMT+1 From: "Emil Heyrovsky" Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #27, Gus and Cubase > Yoh GUSSERS, > > I've got a Gus card and Cubase (Steinberg Midi program). I can't get > the two to work together. I can't get any sound out of my GUS card. > When I open a midi file and want to play it I hear .........NOTHING! > When opening a Midi file in an other program it plays just fine, so > it's not my midi setup. > > Can someone give me any clues? Or tell me that it just doesn't work! One possibility is to load the neccessary patches through PatchManager. That's not very comfortable, but it works. Emil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 01:03:28 GMT From: alek@linefeed.com (Alek Hayes) Subject: Internet Phone Hi All! I just got iPhone and am having similar problems with it as David Ross mentioned in V19 #26. People seem to hear me fine but incoming voices get seriously screwed up.... :-( Major bummer. Please help, anyone! BTW, I have a GUS MAX 1Mb. Alek. -- ___________________________________ This message was posted by Alek Hayes | Email me about life, the universe | Alek@linefeed.com | and everything. | | * | | But please, nothing about AWE32's | ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 15:10:17 -0500 From: rodman@wizvax.com (Josh Rodman) Subject: Interweave from AMD thingy I seem to have missed it when the information on this was disseminated, or was it disseminated? If anyone has answers to either of these questions, I would be very happy to hear them. Where can I find more information about the upcoming GUS product? What type of memory will the product have (I have to sell x36 simms now unless I can use them later)? Thanks. -- Serve the Computer. The Computer is your friend. Be a happy Alpha Complex citizen. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 19:11:02 -0600 From: tmcgoug@metronet.com (Timothy J. McGough) Subject: iphone Has anyone besides me had a problem with GUS locking up after the first 3 or so seconds of using the iphone by vocaltec. I went out and purchased a true sblaster pro and the problem went away. My friend has a Gravis MAX and he has no problems. Im running the 3.59 drivers and wfw with 8 meg ram. Any suggestions would be great! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:33:39 -0400 From: nstn1306@fox.nstn.ca (Robert White) Subject: KINGS QUEST 6 HELP! I've tried everything, ultrasound, ultra 256k, base and extended midi but I can't get any music out of Kings QUest 6 cd-rom. I can only get voice and some sound effects... Anyone know what I should do? Thanks Rob White, nstn1306@fox.nstn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:53:26 -0800 (PST) From: George Subject: Lands of the Lore Really strange that people are getting yucky digital voices with Lands Of the Lore. I use a patch called lolsound.zip (or something like that) that enables multiple sound card configurations, so I can use Mega-Em and select Roland Sound Canvas for music and Sound Bastard for digital voices. What drivers are you using? The AIL drivers? -George ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: bill.hyman@ccmail.bsis.com Subject: MicroProse wimps out! What follows is my prompt but terse response from MicroProse regarding my question about future support for the GUS... Hi Bill, >>>> What are MicroProse/Spectrum Holobyte plans for supporting >>>> the Gravis Ultrasound in the near- and long-term future? Unfortunately, we have experienced numerous problems with the card, and we have dropped plans to support it natively. -Brian/MicroProse Maybe we need to put a full-court-press MicroProse in the same manner that Lucasarts was swayed. Bill Hyman bill.hyman@bsis.com p.s. I still need to get the GUS Max working with Fleet Defender: music, speech, and sound fx if at all possible. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 09:33:41 From: "N.J.Cook" Subject: Re: missing file in Settlers I also do not have that file, but it is possible to make it work using Ultramid (which I believe IS supplied). You simply run Ultramid BEFORE running the sound setup program and it will recognise the GUS present. After that, you'll need LOADPATS before running the game each time - to load the midi patches for the music. I've also extracted the music using RIPXMI which allowed me to make a copy of PATCHES.INI specifically for Settlers - so that it loads all the correct patches first. I don't have access to my copy of the .ini file at the moment, but you can EMAIL me direct and I'll try and get hold of it. I think the music and sound effects are brilliant - hope you agree! Hope that helps! Nick Cook (N.J.Cook@Sheffield.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 08:13:44 +0200 From: m@mjf.pp.fi (Mika Fonsen) Subject: Re: missing file on Settlers >recently bought The Settlers (Blue Byte software) but it >refuses to run with GUS. The readme file says to load >Ultrasnd.bat to set up a permanent GUS file, but the >Ultrasnd.bat file does not exist on the disks supplied with the >game. The game will start with GUS but hangs up after awhile. >I've tried Loadpats.exe but nothing improves. Any suggestions? I haven't played that game for a while, but I think the you have to run ULTRAMID with the install program and LOADPATS with the game. Strange? If this doesn't work, I can check how it was. -- , Mika Fonsen * m@mjf.pp.fi Subject: Ultrasound Bank Manager bug, (undocumented feature, whatever) hi everyone! great to be back! I've been on summer holidays at home since december 1994, so it's been a while since i've been reading the daily digests. But i have a question about the Ultrasound Bank Manager. Hope this hasn't already been discussed while i was away. Here's my problem: I'd like to have a separate set of patches in my own directory, ie C:\ULTRASND\ANDREW, and then switch back and forth to that set using the bank manager. So I set up my bank in that directory and select "Copy to bank 0", but windows can't find the patches, and i don't get any midi sound. I took a peek inside the ULTRASND.INI file and found that in bank zero the PatchDir is set to PatchDir = C:\ULTRASND\MIDI, when it should have been changed to C:\ULTRASND\ANDREW. That's why windows can't find the patches. If i change the PatchDir manually by editing ULTRASND.INI it works, but i'd rather not do that every time. So the problem is that "Copy to bank 0" copies the patch names to bank 0, but it doesn't copy the PatchDir. For now i'll just have to junk all my extra patches in the C:\ULTRASND\MIDI directory, which i'd rather not do. Has anyone else had this problem? Am I doing something really dumb? Any help will be appreciated. By the way, I was impressed with the UltraSound Experience CD. Top stuff! It makes me really glad i didn't get an fm card. It's funny, everyone i've showed who doesn't own an Ultrasound thinks that the FM demo music must have been purposely distorted to get it to sound that bad! haha! Those FM drums sound awful! Oh yeah, I think all my versions are the latest and all that. Windows driver version is 5.48, with an Ultrasound MAX. Anyway i'm gonna get some lunch. Catch Ya! :) - AndrewMAC __ __ \ \/ / Andrew McDonald THE \ / FILES Engineering II --- / \ ----- Monash University /_/\_\ Melbourne AUSTRALIA ------------------------------- THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE... ANDREWM@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:56:52 -0500 From: demersc@lambto.lcbe.edu.on.ca (Chris Demers, Computer Services, Lambton County Board of Ed.) Subject: Where is Maxsbos v0.2 Someone posted the other day that the archive.epas.utoronto.ca archive had v0.2 of Maxsbos. I could not find it?! Which directory is it in? Thanks chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 01:32:07 -0600 (CST) From: BackTrak Subject: Windows muted on start-up? Hi all! I don't know how often this problem occures, but I ran into it briefly, so I thought I'd put in... To the guy that had volume drop when he started up windows... Here's whathappened to me: When I started up windows, it would always decrease one channel to 30% and the other to 40%. I figured out that if I started soundstation, and chose setup, then preferances, then locked left/right volume, and save settings on exit, the problem went away for that session. On the next boot, the problem returned, until I started the soundstation (Not the mixer). Then, I put the soundstation into my start up folder, and editied the sndstation.ini file to set the startup mode to type 7 and then ATTRIB'd it to 'read only' so that windows would keep its hands off. (The mode seven starts the Soundstation in 'Invisable' mode. You can't see it, even tho it gets started in the startup folder. Don't ask how I found it. (?)) Now, when you startup windows, you should get a breif decrease in voulme, but after that, everything should be fine! Good luck! (Attrib command is "ATTRIB +R ") [ Fluteous wisps of effervescense... [ BPS ]-------> Nick Pirocanac <------] [ Myasmic whorls of incandescense... 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