Ultrasound Daily Digest Sat Jun 12 00:36 Volume 4: Issue 12 Today's Topics: .MID's in windows.. 2.06L installation problems Are GUS mail edited?? DMP 2.51 GUS 2.06 and Flight Simulator Incorrect Patch Version and Space Debris Macintosh Microphone: i did it Patch creating PP2 AND GUS0032 Received The New Disks Solution to your Install Probs Star Control II noise The 1-meg debate ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #11 (3 msgs) WAV won't play with 2.06 drivers!?!? Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 16:19:21 PDT From: "JAMES HARGRAVE" Subject: .MID's in windows.. Message-ID: <9306112322.AA17998@orca.es.com> Not really a question I'd like to post to the digest, but I'm not sure who to contact. I'm having a problem getting .MID's to play in windows, I get the little 'tada' when windows opens and stuff but I can't get win-jammer (or any other .MID player) to make any sounds. I'm no windows expert (in fact far from it) .. so if you have any ideas could you please mail me... thanks for your time.. -James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 08:58:58 +0200 From: Afzal Ballim Subject: 2.06L installation problems Message-ID: <1938*/S=afzal/OU=divsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> For those who have the problem with 2.06L (from epas) that it doesn't recognise disks. I had the same problem and was told that install has a bug which can be cured by labelling the disks with a NULL label, i.e., empty. -Afzal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 12:21:00 +0000 From: "Timmy (Y.T.) Chan" Subject: Are GUS mail edited?? Message-ID: <"11783 Fri Jun 11 12:21:47 1993"@bnr.ca> I sent an e-mail to this users group on June 10 and it showed up with the latter half of my mail taken out on June 11. Is this by intent (purposely edited out) or by accident (half my message got lost during the transfer). If by intent, may I ask why?? I merely mentioned another vendor's soundcard (Turtle Beach) and made a suggestion for how much of a memory upgrade would be nice to have on the GUS. I would like very much to know why the edit police would have trouble with my message. Regards, Tim. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 12:51:16 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: Pieter Immelman Subject: Re: DMP 2.51 Message-ID: <9306111051.AA25873@itu2.sun.ac.za> 9269Z%FRESTP11.BITNET@FRMOP11.CNUSC.FR wrote: : Does DMP 2.51 supports the GUS? It's not written anywhere in the .txt file : though I know it supports the Aria based soundcards... No, DMP doesn't support the GUS yet. Otto wrote in the 2.52 docs that his GUS is still on its way. As soon as he receives it, he'll start coding on the GUS support. -- pi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 10:27:14 BST From: ahewett@mround.bt.co.uk (Andy Hewett) Subject: GUS 2.06 and Flight Simulator Message-ID: <9306110927.AA16714@essex.mround.bt.co.uk> Has anyone got sound out of Flight Sim 4 with the 2.06 release yet ? I can get SOME sounds out of FS4, spattered with unexplained pops and whooshes but recognisable. The problem is that the sound just stops after about six seconds ! Could it be that the GUS has played out a buffer and not had it refilled ? Ideas, anyone ? Andy Hewett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 06:19:29 EDT From: timkwan@Athena.MIT.EDU Subject: Incorrect Patch Version and Space Debris Message-ID: <9306111019.AA09118@vongole> John Smith's response to my earlier posting: >> 1. spa.mod has some problems. I have another copy of >> Space Debris which I downloaded from saffron.inset.com >> and that one plays perfectly whereas the spa.mod that > >Send me the one you got. What was wrong with the one we supplied? Somewhere in the middle of spa.mod, the lead instrument (the one that carries the melody, whatever that instrument is) disappears and returns sporadically and it's not just because the piece is meant to be that way either. Those of you with keen musical sense and sharp ears would detect that something is amiss. I have uploaded space_de.lzh to epas in the /pub/pc/ultrasound/submit directory. Download it, unpack it, then use DOS's comp.exe to compare spa.mod with space_de.mod and you'll see that they are different at a number of points. space_de.mod is the more 'complete' one. >> 2. When I go into Windows 3.1, I get a dialog box with the >> caption (title) of "Error" and a message that says, >> "Invalid Patch Version" with an "OK" button. I click on > >Sounds like you have an old patch sitting someplace in your directory. >Do a DEL *.PAT in your MIDI directory and reinstall the patchs. No, I started with a clean slate. I deleted the entire \ultrasnd directory including its subdirectories and files. Michael Daniel , in his recent posting said: I am also having the message about the incorrect patch version when I load windows, and the message appears three times before program manager appears... So what is causing the error? John Smith, any other ideas? -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 11:48:10 -0400 (EDT) From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Subject: Macintosh Microphone: i did it Message-ID: <9306111548.AA10708@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> To use a mac microphone the correct way, use the circuit found on epas in the file micro.arj. Any questions? email me. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 13:45:40 +0100 From: zccaj19@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stefan Magdalinski) Subject: Re: Patch creating Message-ID: <9306111245.AA74776@link-1.ts.bcc.ac.uk> In V4#11, Gavin writes: >...and is there any windows software that will record >through the 'line in' properly? And I haven't been able to sample my MT32 yet, has anyone else? I think you might have a problem here. Noisemaster, Goldwave, et al work fine for me. Have you made sure you've selected the Line Enabled option in the control panel (drivers section) for the Ultrasound Waveform device? Just a suggestion... P.S. No disks in London yet... Stefan Magdalinski zccaj19@ucl.ac.uk "And the weather today? Surprise, surprise it's too bloody hot again." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 09:19:46 From: john.smith@gravis.com Subject: PP2 AND GUS0032 Message-ID: <9306100919.A0698wk@gravis.com> Seems I was mistaken about PP2. THe problems weren't do to the -O1 switch but to EMM386. Haven't tried it with other memory managers, but if you don't remove EMM386 the game will hang as soon as you get to the quick sand (just past the ship). You still need the -O1 switch. I've updated GUS0032.ZIP today (06/10/93) to include the -O1 in SBOS.CFG and also made a note in the README file about PP2. Have fun. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 00:17:12 -0700 From: thomasp@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Thomas Pearson) Subject: Received The New Disks Message-ID: <9306110717.AA28790@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU> I received my new 2.06 disks in the mail June 7th and they are doing just fine. They installed with no problemo, the two new programs for Windows and all. The midi patches all seem to be in tune on all the test songs too. All but one midi file named "biker" or something like that listed in one of the midi demo .bat files. I seem to recall a name like "bikes.mid", I can't recall right now. Anyway I would like to inform the others who have not received there new GUS disks that they are being shipped out, I got mine didn't I?? Bye... /****************************************************************************\ * Thomas Pearson |Internet: * * California State University, Fresno|thomasp@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU * \****************************************************************************/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 11:14:56 +0300 From: Shmuel Gazit Subject: Solution to your Install Probs Message-ID: <9306110814.AA27644@ccsg.tau.ac.il> To the guy who was having troubles with disk #2, and others that got 2.06L for now -UNLABEL your disks ! to do that , u could use dos' LABEL command, or just format the disk with a blank label.. The Install prog checks for a specific label, but doesn't mind if there is no label at all.. I'm going to be in US from the 14th of July, for about a month - can anybody tell me where will be EXPO's like the one Brad was talking about being held in NY in two weeks ? thanks ! /Shmulik. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 7:51:10 PDT From: jtang@chem.ucla.edu (James Tang) Subject: Star Control II noise Message-ID: <9306111451.AA09697@argon.chem.ucla.edu> Is there a known bug in Star Control II with the sound? Whenever I am in the manual selection process and I move the highlighted bar between the options, I'll heard a low "boink" and accompany by lots of static radio noise like sound. What I want to know if that if those static radio noise is suppose to be there or if I should find a patch somethere to fix that. By the way, I am using GUS with 1 megs of memory. James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 11:00:33 -0500 From: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM) Subject: The 1-meg debate Message-ID: <9306111600.AA21669@daedalus.austin.ibm.com> dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com writes: >> It's part of Gravis' marketing philosophy. You pay for the minimum >> functionality, a bare-bones GUS. You can then customize the card to >> fit your specific needs by adding daughterboards and extra DRAM. >Ha! This is why they are going to release the UltraSound MAXX which is has >1 MB, and the SCSI and 16-bit recording built in. Looks like the philosophy >might be changing...There is NO reason not to sell the card with 1MB >on-board. The folks who make video cards figured this out years ago... I can sort of agree with you about 1 meg, but I don't agree that *every* GUS sold have 16-bit recording, SCSI, and every other option. Why? Cost for one. Look at Creative Labs. They now have the SB-16. Why even make the SB and SB-Pro (8-bit recording, other things missing) anymore? Simple - not everyone wants to spend an extra $150 (over the price of a basic SB). Not everyone *needs* 16-bit recording. Not everyone *needs* SCSI. Heck, why not just sell the SB-16 with Waveblaster and whatever other bells and whistles? Why not make it the only form the card is available in? COST! Heck, SB-16 is already about $250 (and it's still cruddy FM!). I think it's right to offer different packages for different people, because some only need the GUS with what it comes with (and for $126, it's a "smokin' deal"). But I'll chime in and say everyone will eventually need 1 meg RAM! ;-) On a sort of related note, I was in one of the mall computer stores the other day (Electronics Boutique?), and they were selling the GUS. But they had two very different packages. One was the familiar Gravis "white and purple" box, and the other was black and red and had a photo of the card on the front. Seems that the store has their own packaging, but it's the same contents. Interesting. The price was $10.00 different (I think the Gravis-packaged GUS was actually cheaper, too - that's dumb). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 12:20:38 From: john.smith@gravis.com Subject: ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V Message-ID: <9306101220.A0706wk@gravis.com> ---------------------------- TO: mike@batpad.org (mike batchelor) >I got the 6 disks from epas, though, and can't get it installed. It >won't recognize disk #2 - it asks me over and over again for it. Disk >2 contains ultrasnd.002 and disk.id, a plain text file that claims >that this is disk #2. What's wrong? Some people seem to be having problems installing the UltraSound V2.06L disks. Here are some possible fixes. 1) When you unzip the 6 disks (GUS0025.ZIP thru GUS0030.ZIP) onto floppy disks, make sure your floppy do NOT have a disk label OR are labeled ULTRASND_1, ULTRASND_2, ULTRASND_3, ULTRASND_4, ULTRASND_5 and ULTRASND_6. 2) You will notice a file on each disk called DISK.ID. Here are the contents of each of the 6 DISK.ID files (one/disk). UltraSound 2.06L UltraSound Software Disk 1 UltraSound 2.06L UltraSound Software Disk 2 UltraSound 2.06L UltraSound Software Disk 3 UltraSound 2.06L UltraSound Software Disk 4 UltraSound 2.06L UltraSound Software Disk 5 UltraSound 2.06L UltraSound Software Disk 6 ----------------------------- TO: Shadow Of Fear > Also, can anyone upload GRAVAPP.ZIP (can't remember the exact >filename) on epas? It's the Gravis node application file. It's called GRAV-APP.ZIP and you can find it on our node in Halifax, or you can freq it from me at 1:153/978. The BBS in halifax is "Max Megabit's" 902-454-8351. ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 22:30:28 +0501 (EDT) From: Gunnar Swanson > Thank you Gravis and especially John for taking all the heat I >had to dish out with out too much cursing. It has its moments and rewards ----------------------------- All for me today. Time to go eay my apple. TTUL John --- ~ QMPro 1.02 05-8925 ~ People say I'm indecisive. Am I? I don't know. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 10:27:52 -0400 From: Bill Norton Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #11 Message-ID: <9306111427.AA08096@merit.edu> I tried to unzip wcharts.zip from the archives today and failed. Has this happened to anyone else: Volume in drive C has no label Volume Serial Number is 1802-3E4F Directory of C:\ULTRASND\NET\WCHARTS . 06-11-93 10:07a .. 06-11-93 10:07a WCHARTS ZIP 610832 06-11-93 10:14a 3 file(s) 610832 bytes 287424512 bytes free C:\ULTRASND\NET\WCHARTS>pkunzip wcharts.zip PKUNZIP (R) FAST! Extract Utility Version 1.1 03-15-90 Copr. 1989-1990 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. PKUNZIP/h for help PKUNZIP Reg. U.S. Pat. and Tm. Off. Searching ZIP: WCHARTS.ZIP PKUNZIP: Warning! I don't know how to handle: WCHARTS.EXE PKUNZIP: Warning! I don't know how to handle: VOTING.FRM PKUNZIP: Warning! I don't know how to handle: FILE_ID.DIZ PKUNZIP: No file(s) found. C:\ULTRASND\NET\WCHARTS> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 14:21:36 EDT From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #11 Message-ID: <9306111821.AA21807@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 14:06:39 -0700 (PDT) > From: jde@ciaran.ucr.edu (Jeff Ellis) > Subject: epas v2.06L not working > Message-ID: <9306102106.AA15701@ciaran> > > >From: mike@batpad.org (mike batchelor) > >I got the 6 disks from epas, though, and can't get it installed. It > >won't recognize disk #2 - it asks me over and over again for it. Disk > >2 contains ultrasnd.002 and disk.id, a plain text file that claims > >that this is disk #2. What's wrong? > > I also have seen this problem. I thought it might have been the way I moved > them from the Sun to the 3.5" disks to try at home. The disks will only be recognized if they are unlabeled or labeled according to a certain scheme (which I have forgotten). So remove any labels from your disks and try to reinstall them. > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 13:24:00 +0000 > From: "Timmy (Y.T.) Chan" > Subject: GUS RAM upgrade beyond 1Meg > Message-ID: <"13398 Thu Jun 10 13:25:21 1993"@bnr.ca> > > This is question aimed at the people who work at GUS. I figured > a lot of others might be interested, so I've posted the question here > rather than direct e-mail. > > Are there any plans to release a board that supports over 1 Meg > RAM?? (Don't matter to me whether it be a daughter board or a > brand new 'GUS-Pro' board.) It seems 1Meg is sorely insufficient > to support GM. I heard samples had to be dropped to support the > 128 instruments of GM - from 44.1 samples/sec to around 20 samples/sec. > GM has 128 melodic instruments and 64 percussives, but they do not have to all fit into 1 Meg at the same time. The GUS' entire collection of GM patches is over 5 Megs in size, but only the instruments needed by a MIDI piece are loaded into the card's RAM. > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 10:27:38 -0500 > From: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM) > Subject: Need advice on new motherboard > Message-ID: <9306101527.AA23874@daedalus.austin.ibm.com> > > Hey GUS people, > > Well, as some of you have read, I'm still having some weird things > happen with MIDI on my GUS. So I'm considering getting a new > motherboard to try and remedy the problem. > Before you get a new motherboard, do something just to humour me. Remove your multi-I/O card and test your GUS again. Doing that solved *all* of my problems with the new SBOSes and with running GUS software under 386Max. (The problems with my multi-I/O card aren't just GUS-related. 386Max itself would blow chunks if I try to access my floppies, for example. I'm forced to use emm386 as my mem manager, but I need 386Max to compile with MSC7 outside of Windows.) But without my multi-I/O card, I'm mouseless (I checked and the problems had nothing to do with my mouse driver, BTW) and printerless. The funny thing is even if I disable everything on the multi-I/O card and stick it back into my machine, my SBOS and 386Max problems resurface. I've tried two other cards and they weren't any different. Right now, I'm looking for separate com and parallel ports. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 16:23:26 CDT From: andrew@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Andrew Wheeler) Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #11 Message-ID: <9306112123.AA08277@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> Just a quick response to the 3d audio demo. . . .don't worry just yet if you listened to it and wasn't impressed - I wasn't impressed either, but of course I make the real dsp based systems :). Regardless, the 3d effect will be dramatically increased when graphics are added to the sound; the brain will fill in alot of the gaps in the sound quality to help it match the visual. So I'm waiting till a better demo comes out before I start seriously thrashing the GUS 3D :). ps: if anyone wants a pretty simple paper on 3d audio, just send me some email. The paper is about 3d audio in general, and a DSP based system we developed. Specify ascii or postript. . . . -andrew ---- Andrew Wheeler Applied Research Laboratories University of Texas at Austin andrew@mars.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 9:54:46 PDT From: roberts@brahms.amd.com (Dave Roberts) Subject: WAV won't play with 2.06 drivers!?!? Message-ID: <9306111654.AA05965@angelo.amd.com> I had a really interesting thing happen last night. I just got the 2.06 disks in the mail and installed them. Everything went fine, more or less. I had a bunch of sharing violations while doing the Windows install. I figured the install was trying to delete some stuff and couldn't do it. I found the old version of the driver still installed along with the new version. I removed the old version using the driver applett. Everything seems to work fine. MIDI works. ``TA-DA'' plays when I start Windows, etc. Is there anything else I should look for that might not have gotten removed? Now, the interesting part. I used the little sound converter programs to convert a .SND file to a .WAV file and tried to play it with any of the Windows players (recorder, media player, etc.). None of them would do it. Recorder would load the .WAV but wouldn't enable the play button. Media player would barf saying that there wasn't a driver installed capable of playing a WAV file of that format. What does that mean? Has anybody else used the sound converter? Is it producing .WAV files in a different format than normal Windows .WAV files. All the .WAV files that came with Windows seem to work fine. Any help you can give would be appreciated. Oh, while I'm asking, is there a list of exactly what new files should be where and what old files should NOT be where? I mean, is there a resource where I can manually go through and make sure that everything got removed? BTW: good job, Gravis! I had resisted grabbing the new patch sets off epas for the longest time. I didn't realize how much I was missing! WOW! Tocatta.mid sounds amazingly better than it used to. And it sounded amazing to begin with. Dave Roberts david.roberts@amd.com ------------------------------ End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #12 *************************************