Ultrasound Daily Digest Thu, 23 Sep 93 0:47 MDT Volume 6: Issue 22 Today's Topics: Crack to Mega-Em EZSOUND problem GUS gets great review!!! GUS under WinOS/2? Just to let you know 5/7 Just to let you know 6/7 Just to let you know 7/7 RAM chips The Card Ultrasound Daily Digest V6 #21 (2 msgs) Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 09:12:15 +0800 (WST) From: Jayeson Lee-Steere Subject: Crack to Mega-Em Message-ID: <199309230112.JAA05467@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> Someone has just informed me of a crack to Mega-Em's registration system being uploaded to epas. As you might guess I'm not too thrilled about this. I ask that anyone who finds it anywhere else remove it, or asked to have it removed. I realise many people are against cripple ware, but please remember this is my program and my desired choice of distribution/marketing method. Jayeson Lee-Steere leesteer@tartarus.uwa.edu.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 01:58:36 PDT From: zorro%40607.hepnet@Lbl.Gov Subject: EZSOUND problem Message-ID: <930922015836.2021fabf@Lbl.Gov> hi i have got EZSOUND 2.0 for Windows i have installed it on my pc 386DX25 mhz (all works ok with my GUS) and i have choose MULTIMEDIA WINDOWS DRIVER 3.1 because it hasn't a GUS driver. I don't work properly and hangs my computer, if someone can help me (i have GUS 206 L install disks). thanks i'm in the list but if you want can email direct to me to zorro@v8550.ias.fra.cnr.it bye claudio NOTE: i have yet asked if someone know how use the 808drums e 707 or 727 i don't know how use it in my default.cfg file NOTE2: how can i use the files sbos-ult.zip it has only a file and not a .exe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 10:17:23 EDT From: Christophe M Williams Subject: GUS gets great review!!! Message-ID: <199309221417.KAA06540@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu> This is the first time I've posted so bear with me... I don't know how many read Computer Shopper...but the latest issue does a ranking of sound cards and the GUS was ranked one of the BEST! I've only heard this last night (from a friend) and have yet to read the article. It was ranked 2nd only to Turtle Beach. If anyone has a chance to look at it...let me know a bit more about the article with some specifics. Happy Gussing!!!! Loves, Hugs and Tugs... -Socrates ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 9:12:36 CDT From: wiegand@void.rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand) Subject: Re: GUS under WinOS/2? Message-ID: <9309221412@midnight1> > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 02:49:32 +1000 > From: els413c@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au (KWT Wong) > Subject: GUS under WinOS2 ?? > Message-ID: <9309211649.AA19003@fawltyds.eng.monash.edu.au> > > Hi. > I am not sure if this is a FAQ but I haven't read anything about it > for a long long time. Is there anyway to get the GUS to run under > WinOS2 in OS/2 2.1 ?? I can get the GUS working under a DOS session > but when I try to run the GUS in a WinOS2 enhanced mode session. I get > the error that the GUS needs to be working under Enhanced mode but > the session is already under Enhanced mode ! Any help appreciated Sorry, but there is no way to get this to work. The Gravis Windows drivers can't work under WinOS2. > Gravis come out with the OS/2 drivers quick !! A brand new market > just waiting to be tapped !! We've been telling them that for a year and a half now. Bob Wiegand ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 16:08:15 From: john.smith@gravis.com Subject: Just to let you know 5/7 Message-ID: <9309221608.A3691wk@gravis.com> (Continued from previous message) engineering--the 30-ton machine contained 17,468 vacuum tubes linked by 500 miles (800 kilometers) of wiring. Since then, we have seen numerous revolutions in the computer industry. Gone are the cumbersome and vociferous vacuum tubes and transistors. In its place - the microchip. The revolution in microchip technology occurred in 1971 when the American engineer Marcian E. Hoff combined the basic elements of a computer on one tiny silicon chip, which he called a microprocessor. This microprocessor, the Intel 4004, helped set the foundation for the future. With all of the progress we have made in computing power, unfortunately the progression of computer generated music has not been so dramatic. Quality music and sound have long been lacking in programs and applications, so it comes as no surprise that only now, in 1993, developers and consumers are looking for alternate ways to generate music and effects without using the internal speakers. The prehistoric and archaic beeps of 7 years ago are now thankfully a distant memory due to the success of Frequency Modulation, but once again, as is the case with any technological industry, evolution breed obsolescence. With the focus on realism and CD quality reproduction, Frequency Modulation has been pushed aside to herald in a new dawn of Wave Table Synthesis. However, before we can discuss the attributes associated with both forms of synthesis, it is important that we have a basic understanding of how sound is produced and broadcast. Sounds can take on a variety of distinctions, but the one variable they all contain is that all are caused by some sort of vibration. The acoustic vibrations disturb the air in such a way that sound waves are produced. These waves travel out in all directions, expanding outwards from the source of the sound, until it reaches a destination. Sound relies on three things: a vibrating source to create the sound wave, a medium (such as air) to carry the wave, and a receiver (human ear or electronic equipment) to detect them. Sound waves cannot travel through a vacuum. Sound cards are made up of three principal portions: (1)The digital portion (2)The analog portion (3)The method of synthesis For playback, electronic components such as computers or CD players do not transmit an acoustic sound, but rather they transmit a sequence of numbers, more commonly known as a digital signal. However, before this digital signal (or series of numbers) can be heard, it must first be converted from its existing form, to an electronic signal. This process is performed by the Digital to Analog Converter, or DAC, for short. This converted signal is then received by the speaker, thus causing a vibration in the air, resulting in a sound wave. Electronic components can also record original sounds for playback. This is known as sampling. This process is performed by the Analog to Digital Converter, or ADC, for short. This function is opposite to the DAC, in that it takes an incoming signal, and converts it to a series of numbers. The resulting digital signal is then stored either in DRAM or on the hard disk. To playback this digital signal, it is then re- converted back into an electronic signal by the DAC. When sampling, another factor to consider is that of the sampling rate. This relates to how often the ADC reads an incoming signal, and generates a number sequence. Sampling rates are measured in kHz. For comparison, the sampling rate of a CD player is 44.1 kHz. In other words, the ADC samples the incoming signal 44,100 times per second, and generates 44,100 digital values per second. The result would be a clear, realistic digital signal. An important aspect to remember when dealing with electronic playback, is the final resolution. The bit resolution directly affects the dynamic range of the sound. Dynamic range can be defined as the difference between the softest and loudest sounds generated. If the bit resolution is high, then the sound wave generated will be more natural and realistic than ones generated with a lower resolution. (see example) As stated, there are currently two main forms of synthesis - Frequency Modulation (FM) and Wave Table Synthesis. While the methods to do so are different, both utilize vibrations and wave forms to generate the sounds. The synthesizer portion on FM based sound cards is comprised of a series of modulators or operators. To generate a sound, the electronic signal is routed through the DAC (as explained above.) However, if the original operator was routed to another, instead of the loudspeaker, then the signal from the first operator (called a modulator), would alter the signal of the second operator (called a carrier). In effect, the frequency of the carrier would be altered (modulated) at a speed equivalent to the frequency of the modulator. This would produce what is known as a secondary frequency or overtone. Overtones give sound waves its tonal quality, also known as timbre. Each instrument would have distinctively different overtones. By altering the frequencies and amplitudes, you can create an infinite array of timbres. You can further alter the effect, when you designate different settings for the envelope, which includes such parameters as attack, sustain and decay. Wave table synthesis produces its sounds in a radically different way. It does not use modulators or operators to create, in essence, artificial sounds like the FM synthesizers. Instead, wave table synthesis produces sounds by sampling real instruments. Digital (Continued to next message) --- ~ QMPro 1.50 05-8925 ~ He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 16:08:18 From: john.smith@gravis.com Subject: Just to let you know 6/7 Message-ID: <9309221608.A3692wk@gravis.com> (Continued from previous message) samples of real instruments are recorded (usually at 44.1 kHz) and then stored either in the read only memory (ROM), random access memory or directly as a file on the hard drive. These digital samples are more commonly referred to as patches. When needing to access the audio patch, the operating system on the sound card downloads the individual patches into the sound card's DRAM, and then the sound is generated through the wave table synthesizer. Wave table synthesizers can also modify the attack, sustain and decay in a sound wave. For example, a snare drum, has a very quick attack, short sustain and very quick decay. By taking the original sampled instrument and modifying the envelope, you can end up with endless variations of an original instrument. Wave table synthesis manipulates the sound waves depending on your requirements or as per the applications you are using. For example, a Midi application might send commands to the synthesizer telling it to play the sounds in a certain manner, at a certain time, and then shut off the output at a certain point. The difference between FM synthesis and Wave Table Synthesis, is of course, how the resulting sound waves are received at the destination. In basic terms, this simply relates to how we like the sound! FM synthesizers recreate sound by modulating sound waves. It modulates the wave until a predetermined sound is achieved. Wave table synthesis on the other hand, takes a recording of a sampled instrument, and alters the attack, decay, and sustain to achieve the final result. For example, it might take a sample of a saxophone. By playing the patch with a shallower attack, and lower volume, it would become a tenor sax. If you made it sharper and crisper, the it would change into a alto sex. Because you are always working from the original digital sample, the end result would end up sounding like the real instrument. FM synthesis tries to recreate sounds from scratch. FM synthesis could potentially recreate any instrument, but the problem is, the end result will be close, but never match up exactly to the wave form of the original instrument. If you were to compare the wave forms that were generated by both forms of synthesis to the original sampled wave form, the FM wave form would be skewed while the Wave table wave form would be an exact match of the sampled instrument. Another concept to look at while comparing sound cards, is how the individual patches (sampled instruments) are stored. Many wave table sound cards allow for storage only in the ROM. The Gravis UltraSound however, allows users to store the individuals patches in the RAM. The Gravis UltraSound allows users the flexibility to create their own instruments in addition to the standard MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) set of 128 sound patches and 64 drum patches. The only limitation to this is the size of free space on the hard drive. For comparison, the standard 192 patch set takes up approximately 5-6 megs on a hard drive. Storing the patches in RAM is a tradeoff in hard space compared to using the ROM only. However, most developers and musicians would welcome the opportunity to create and utilize new instruments. Remember, instruments (or patches), do not necessarily refer to musical devices. A patch could contain a digital sample of a chainsaw, a tractor, or a dentists drill! Many musicians are frustrated by the limitation imposed with ROM based samples. By using RAM, the instruments sampled would be limited only to the boundaries of your imagination. With FM you will never have the realism or the naturalism of the original sampled instrument. There will always be some distortion of the original wave. Some criticisms of wave table sounds cards have been levied against the lack of a midi-coprocessor on board. They claim that without an on- board processor, the sound card depends on inordinate amounts of CPU time (20%-40%)to perform their functions. However, this is a major misconception. Based on the design by FORTE of the GF1 chip and the operating system, the correct amount would be from 1-3% of the CPU time. In comparison, a popular FM based sound card takes approximately 25-30% of the CPU time to play a mixed audio file, while the Gravis UltraSound can do so without any delays whatsoever! Again, this is in conjunction with the design of the GF1 wave table chip, the DRAM, and the operating system, and not on the method of synthesis the sound card utilizes. Wave table synthesis does not strive to emulate FM based sound boards. The reason behind this is that wave table synthesis provides more natural and realistic sounds than its FM based counterparts. The only reason to emulate an FM sound board, would be to provide the end user the compatibility to use their sound card with past (not present or future) products. Another feature of the Gravis UltraSound, is its ability to offer virtual reality along with a vastly superior method of music synthesis. Utilizing Focal Point technology, UltraSound's holographic sound processes audio signals through a technique called convolution. Right and left audio signals are generated that create wraparound sound effects to the human ear. The sound signal is actually an electronic signal shaped so that the listener hears the sound as a three dimensional psychoacoustic effect. Why do people purchase sound cards? The number one reason would be for music and sound quality. FM synthesis provided a good product for the time based on consumer demands. Consumers are now requesting CD quality reproduction, along with a natural and honest synthesis method, something unfortunately FM based sound cards cannot provide. The Gravis UltraSound provides CD quality reproduction, backwards compatibility, and is forging ahead with its new Focal Point 3-D development. This combined with economically sensible pricing, makes the UltraSound an unusually attractive product. Other products on the market offer wave table synthesis, but at four (4) or five (5) times the (Continued to next message) --- ~ QMPro 1.50 05-8925 ~ He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 16:08:21 From: john.smith@gravis.com Subject: Just to let you know 7/7 Message-ID: <9309221608.A3693wk@gravis.com> (Continued from previous message) cost! Other FM based sound cards offer add- on wave table modules, but for exorbitant prices! While these add- ons will sound comparable, you must also compare the price structures of the products. The Gravis UltraSound wins at all levels of comparison: price, performance, development, sound quality, synthesis method and is technologically advanced compared to any FM based sound card, with or without wave table add-ons. If you made it this far you must be commited. ;-) I'm sure this bulletin is going to stir things up , take care. John PS: Here are my favorite quotes: "FM synthesis is sucking my will to live, the Gravis is possibly my only chance to survive..." or "Nice card, doesn't sound like a kazoo from H??L" Ralph Thomas, Music Producer Strategic Simulations Inc. --- ~ QMPro 1.50 05-8925 ~ He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 11:36:50 +0100 (BST) From: "Reidar J. Husmo" Subject: Re: RAM chips Message-ID: <4034.9309221036@grumpy.cs.keele.ac.uk> >From: "ALEXANDER MAJAREK" >Subject: GUS-Shopping >Message-ID: <199309211509.AA01848@uibk.ac.at> > >Hi Guys! Yo. > >Sorry for a very long report, but - yes - there's a point. I knew the Risk >with RAM-upgrades, I know about the RAM-upgrade problems, too, so when I ordered my 1M upgrade for my GUS I ordered _8_ chips - planning to rip out the two old ones. So I got the chips, opened up my computer, and guess what? The chips were of *exactly* the same make, speed, production year, colour (if you count black as a colour, that is! not that there are non-black chips out there!), you name it. Oh well. The one time I *do* show remarkable foresight it's not needed. Radar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 22:14 EDT From: marius@io.org (Marius) Subject: The Card Message-ID: Ok guys. Here's the story: this weekend we're having Computerfest here in Toronto and I was planning to get the Ultrasound, but recently when I have been listening and looking around I'm starting to be unsure. A number of questions have crept up in my mind that keep me from deciding: 1)How 'Soundblaster'-compatible is the Gus? (i.e. What percentage of IBM soundblaster games can run under Gravis??) 2)I hear of newer and newer drivers being released and of the terrible long time it takes to get them. Are these drivers also available anywhere on the Internet so I could just get them overnight/in-a-week? 3)How responsive is Gravis to new software/games? If a game comes out that the Ultrasound has problems emulating Soundblaster, does Gravis eventually release fix/patch to make it work? 4)Should I get 256k or should I go all the way and get 1M? 5)What's this that I heard about a new version/board coming out once the Soundblaster emulator get good enough? Any help with these would be EXTREMELY USEFUL. I'd prefer if any answered where emailed straight to me (pressed for time, don't want to wait till the next issue of the digest comes out the next day). --- ~ QMPro 1.0 12-1234 ~ Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 08:29:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Phat H Tran Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V6 #21 Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 04:24:34 EDT > From: ddr@math.ufl.edu > Subject: Dagger of Amon Ra and MegaEm > Message-ID: <9309210824.AA14290@gomek.math.ufl.edu> > > When I play Dagger of Amon Ra with MegaEm the sound used for the typewriters is > not like any typewriter I ever heard. It is more like musical notes. Sierra > downloads its own data to the Roland/GUS so I would guess that I cannot change > the sound ...... am I correct? > There might be a chance that the game is trying to use the gunshot patch for the hammering of the typewriter. Since the GUS ships with a ring whistle for a gunshot, many games will sound a little funny (the gunshot is widely used for many sound effects, from thunder to a smack). What you can do, if you haven't already done so, is download Francois' GUNS patches and use pistol2.pat for patch number 127. Copy pistol2.pat into your patches directory and edit the 127=ringwhsl line in ultrasnd.ini to read 127=pistol2. You might also want to edit ultramid.ini accordingly if you play games using the AIL drivers. > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 13:31:27 BST > From: james@maths.exeter.ac.uk > Subject: large .wav files under windows? > Message-ID: <5247.9309211231@maths.exeter.ac.uk> > > To play a .wav file under windows does the whole thing have to be loaded > into RAM or something? I've been experiencing very odd results with > > perc, > the media player, > cool, version 105 > & even a registered version of noisemaster > Trying to get a 2 meg 16bit/44.1 khz wav file to load. > > The best Ive had is that the file loads, it can be played once through and then > I get a GPF. That was with cool, and its inconsistent. > This is on a 486sx with 4megs of RAM. > The WAVE portion of the GUS Windows driver seems to be generating GPFs for many people, though I have no idea why. It has never happened to me. For WAVE playback, an 8k buffer is setup in GUS RAM and used to hold chunks of the sample being played. Fresh chunks from the sample stream are uploaded to "fill" the buffer whenever it gets half-"empty". (At least, that's my understanding of it.) So you don't need all that much RAM on GUS (assuming that you meant THAT RAM, not the PC's, but if you did mean the PC RAM, my guess is that the WAVE doesn't get loaded in its entirety into memory there either for playback [perhaps for editing]). I can play a 2+ meg 8 bit sample on my GUS in Windows just fine. I haven't any large 16-bit samples to test. > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 10:47:30 -0400 > From: Gregory Chung > Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V6 #20 > Message-ID: <199309211447.KAA15868@eden.rutgers.edu> > > I've heard all the fanfare over the Mega-EM program, so I finally went out and got it. Problem is I can't get it working, because it either tells me my > ultrasnd.ini is corrupt or it can't find the patches in the directory. The > documentation isn't very clear on this point, but I assume is uses the > ULTRADIR environment var? > > What I have here is this: UltraSound directory = C:\ULTRASND, while the > patches are located in E:\SOUND\MIDI. I've tried the ultrasnd.ini from my > windows directory, which works (with Windows) to no avail. > I'm not sure how Mega-Em locates the patches, but from your problems, my hunch is that it first looks in the directory in ULTRADIR for ultrasnd.ini, and then looks in (ULTRADIR)/MIDI for the patches. Ideally, it should do like the Windows driver and read the patch directory from ultrasnd.ini and locate the patches from that information. I'd suggest you move all your patches to (ULTRADIR)/MIDI because many programs expect the patches to be there. Phat. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 9:04:12 PDT From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor) Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V6 #21 Message-ID: <9309221604.AA23819@netcom2.netcom.com> Not the Ultrasound Server once wrote... $ $ ------------------------------ $ $ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 04:24:34 EDT $ From: ddr@math.ufl.edu $ Subject: Dagger of Amon Ra and MegaEm $ Message-ID: <9309210824.AA14290@gomek.math.ufl.edu> $ $ When I play Dagger of Amon Ra with MegaEm the sound used for the typewriters is $ not like any typewriter I ever heard. It is more like musical notes. Sierra $ downloads its own data to the Roland/GUS so I would guess that I cannot change $ the sound ...... am I correct? You probably need to replace patch #127 (ringwhsl) with one of the pistol patches on epas (I use pistol1, because it is about the same size as ringwhsl). The ultrasnd.ini deviates from General Midi by including the ring whistle where a pistol shot should be, and games often use the pistol as a base sound for percussive sound effects - like typewriters! $ ------------------------------ $ $ Date: (null) $ From: "ALEXANDER MAJAREK" $ Subject: GUS-Shopping $ Message-ID: <199309211509.AA01848@uibk.ac.at> $ $ Hi Guys! Hi! $ [...long report deleted...] $ $ Sorry for a very long report, but - yes - there's a point. I knew the Risk $ with RAM-upgrades, I knew about faulty DMA-controlers, I knew that $ SBOS isn't perfect and I have Internet access for e-mail and FTP, so I $ *chose* to give it a try. And after all the troubles I'm really satisfied $ with that piece of hardware which is NOW in my PC (I just can't put $ that SOUND (quality) in words). My experience with my first sound card was pretty bad, too. It was a SB Pro, and I never did get the hum in the line out to go away, even with headphones, or table top speakers. I got rid of it, got a GUS instead, and have had no hardware problems at all - upgraded to 1Mb using 60ns Toshiba DRAMs, and it all checks out and works fine. Only a very few programs have Ultraclicks anymore, and with Mega-Em, I get great music with every game I have. I'm busy trying to figure out how to build GUS support into the Linux kernel now. I have several songs (669 and MOD) that are too large to fit in 640K, and PMP doesn't support the GUS yet, so I hope I'll be able to play them in 32-bit protected mode under Linux! Next - the DOS Emulator, so I can play games without booting DOS! hehehe... $ FLAME ON *********** $ $ Without Internet-access (or a modem) you can FORGET the idea of $ having fun with a GUS! $ $ FLAME OFF ********** This is, unfortunately, part of the problem with getting GUS support. It's perceived as a difficult card to use, and so not as many "mainstream" sound users will buy, so there is less incentive to support it, so lack of support scares more mainstream buyers away, while the hackers and sound devotees cook up wonders like Mega-Em to fill in the gap, which in turn makes native support less urgent, and round and round it goes. But it looks like thingsare finally taking a turn for the better, with native support announced by a few, and upgrade patches announced by many. $ I really want the GUS (I love it by now) to become *the* standard $ soundcard and maybe these problems are solved in the newer $ revisions of the cards. The only reason (apart from superior sound) $ for me to buy the GUS (although there are troubles) is the GOOD $ WORK from GRAVIS I can see every day on the Internet (new drivers, $ customer support, etc.) and the possibility to implement nearly $ everything new simply via software(-changes). I think your experience was unusual. Perhaps my experience with the SB Pro was unusual, too. But we both now have cards we are delighted with, so more power to us! :) $ ------------------------------ $ $ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 10:47:30 -0400 $ From: Gregory Chung $ Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V6 #20 $ Message-ID: <199309211447.KAA15868@eden.rutgers.edu> $ $ I've heard all the fanfare over the Mega-EM program, so I finally went out and got it. Problem is I can't get it working, because it either tells me my $ ultrasnd.ini is corrupt or it can't find the patches in the directory. The $ documentation isn't very clear on this point, but I assume is uses the $ ULTRADIR environment var? $ $ What I have here is this: UltraSound directory = C:\ULTRASND, while the $ patches are located in E:\SOUND\MIDI. I've tried the ultrasnd.ini from my $ windows directory, which works (with Windows) to no avail. $ $ Any advice for the clueless? Mega-Em looks for the ULTRADIR environment variables, and reads the Ultrasnd.ini it finds there. In the Ultrasnd.ini, you need to put the directory where the patches are found in the header, like this: [Ultrasound] PatchDir=C:\ULTRASND\midi\ [Melodic Patches] 0=acpiano 1=britepno 2=synpiano ...etc... So in your case, you need to set an environment variable ULTRADIR=C:\ULTRASND, or ULTRADIR=E:\SOUND, and put the Ultrasnd.ini there. Then change the PatchDir=E:\SOUND\MIDI, and you should be all set. Phat wrote... $ $ > From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor) $ > Subject: Ultramid -c vs. neat $ > Message-ID: <9309210337.AA06573@netcom2.netcom.com> $ > $ > What's the diff between -c and not using that switch? -c loads a GM patch $ > set right? Does this imply that not using the switch will let the game $ > load its own patch set? $ > $ $ No. The -c switch just forces Ultramid to load a subset of the GM patches $ into the GUS' RAM, and then only use those samples, instead of caching $ on the fly in the game. But whether Ultramid caches on the fly or not, $ it's still limited to the patches laid out in ultramid.ini. A game can $ use its own custom patches if it includes its own ultramid.ini. I have yet to get any sound from any game without using the -c switch. Is this to be expected? -- Mike Batchelor | mikebat@netcom.com | This space for rent mikebat@qdeck.com | ------------------------------ End of Ultrasound Daily Digest V6 #22 *************************************