GUS Daily Digest Mon, 20 Dec 93 0:07 Volume 9: Issue 20 Today's Topics: DOOM v1.1 and Gravis Gamepad... Fed up Getting IndyRacer Racer to work with GUS GUS Daily Digest V9 #18 Line-in while playing DOOM? Loud Pops from my Sound System. Megaem & T7G Microphones Music Contest No sound with Xanth/MEGAEM combo (help) Quest For Glory 4 clarification... Quest For Glory IV (fwd) SB rubbish Speakers Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Dec 93 15:05:58 CST From: Erick_Bergquist@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Erick Bergquist) Subject: DOOM v1.1 and Gravis Gamepad... I know this isn't GUS related, but hey, it has to do with a Gravis product. ;) I just upgraded to DOOM v1.1 and it works fine, but now it doesn't work with my Gravis GamePad. I can move right, and go backwards only. Does anyone else have this problem? I looked in the DEFAULT.CFG and I see no settings for Joystick-movement positions (only buttons). Everytime I start DOOM up it also asks me to configure the joystick. (Push to upper-left, lower-right, etc...) Thanks for any suggestions... BTW, A friend of mine just sold their GUS for $200 (256k RAM) and went and bought another one, and upgraded it to a MEG. I don't know who bought it, but they wanted it that bad I guess. -- Via DLG Pro v0.995 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=//-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\\-=-=-= ITCnet: 85:872/203 -!- KENOnet: 10:11/0 // The Project Team '93 \\ T 9 Erick_Bergquist@EDTNG.Kenosha.WI.US // CIS Major - Happy GUSing \\ P 3 [------Insert Wise Saying Here------] // Programmer/Artist\Musician \\ T -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=//-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\\-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 12:53:55 EST From: Cliff Addy Subject: Fed up Well, I'm just about fed up. I've been a GUS owner for about six months and I must say that while I've been impressed by the technical merits of the GUS, I'm just about ready to pitch it for a variety of minor issues that have snowballed into a large mountain of frustration .... 1) Gravis themselves: I read in a recent digest about some poor fella who had to wait three months to receive his 2.06a disks. Well, buddy, I've been waiting *six* months and have seen hide nor hair of mine. And neither has my friend, who bought hers 6 weeks earlier. And yes, we sent in the registration cards. Add to that the complete ignoring of several help requests mailed to Gravis. Or for that matter, product purchase requests. Just a simple "piss off, we're too busy" would have been nice, since I would have known not to wait. But nothing, nada, zilch .... 2) Compatibility problems: It won't work with this, or that, or that .... It's simple little stuff like have to initialize the Windows driver every time Windows starts. Or that having software work seems to be dependent on the particular hardware configuration, the type of BIOS used, and the phase of the moon. After several weeks of trying to upgrade the RAM, I finally determined that the GUS only likes *CERTAIN BRANDS* of RAM. I've had 12 years of working with PCs and *NEVER* had this much ongoing trouble with a piece of hardware. If *I* have this much trouble, I really feel for the poor schmuck who finds a GUS under his Christmas tree. Of course, if Gravis would answer my email .... 3) Product availability: God help those without InterNet access. They'd never know about epas or the Digest. *Is* there a CD-ROM or 16-bit recording daughterboard available? Where do I buy one? How to upgrade? Of course, if Gravis would only answer my email .... I think you see the common theme running through all this. *WAKE UP, GRAVIS!!! YOUR CUSTOMER BASE IS GETTING PISSED OFF!!!* You're hiding in your little shell in Canada and expecting the few of us out here in positions to talk to tell the world to beat a path to your door. You *have* built the better mousetrap, but a *lot* of the mice don't fit. Talk to me! I'm sick of being ignored. As an instructor here at UNF, I've been recommending the GUS, mainly because I thought the Internet support would outweigh the compatibility problems. However, given the lack of response from Gravis, I'm going to stop. The SB make have poor sound, but all too often, the GUS has no sound at all. As a side note, I was in the mall the other day at Babbage's. A customer asked about the GUS and was told that they had stopped carrying it. Seems they sold about a dozen of them and they were all returned because they were incompatible. And don't try blaming it on ignorant users. Just who do you think the vast majority of the market is? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cliff Addy (raddy@unf6.cis.unf.edu) Department of Computer and Information Sciences, University of North Florida ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:56:33 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy Subject: Getting IndyRacer Racer to work with GUS Does anyone out there know how to get the IndyRacer by Papyrus to work with the GUS? Any help would be appreciated! Cheers, Vince hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu root@kingdom.com System Administrator/Owner Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc. San Francisco, California USA \|/ (o o) _____________oOO__(_)__OOo_______________ | No warranty for my actions of any kind | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 02:13:00 PST From: n4zfd!frodo@rylos.n2idf.ampr.org ("James M. Blakely") Subject: GUS Daily Digest V9 #18 Someone erroneously once said: > Yes, it does. The GUS is the first card to use the MultiMedia extensions > that are new with Win3.1. They are loaded only in Enhanced mode. There > is no way to fool the GUS driver into running in Standard mode. I know, > I've tried. :) > Other cards work in Standard mode because their drivers pre-date the > MultiMedia extensions. The multimedia extensions have nothing to do with this point. The multimedia extensions, in fact, require only a '286 and standard mode. The reason the GUS driver won't run under standard mode is that it wasn't written to run under standard mode. I imagine they probably used some '386 specific instructions. 386 Enhanced mode is far superior to standard mode. Programs that "prefer" standard mode were generally written for Windows 3.0. Incidentally, most PC manufacturers have started preloading all new machines with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (which includes 32 bit file access, among other great features), and which *doesn't have a standard mode*. > MegaEm does not work when Windows is loaded. Read the docs, it turns off > when it detects Windows starting up. Likewise, UltraMID will not work > inside of Windows. There is NO WAY to get sound with these games inside > of Windows with the GUS. When you use the Windows versions of the Sierra games, and properly load the GUS with patches, it'll work fine. Sierra games are MPC compliant games, and support all Windows sound cards. Jim Blakely, Microsoft Certified Professional Blakely-Signature Associates A Microsoft Solution Provider ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 04:06:52 EST From: phaedrus%triples@Triples.Math.McGill.CA (Phong Co) Subject: Line-in while playing DOOM? Hi all, I apologize for clogging up the list with DOOM stuff, but it is GUS-related. I've got a portable CD player hooked up to the GUS line-in, and can use the CD while in Windows, playing Wolf3D, etc. It seems that games which support the GUS directly, such as DOOM or Epic Pinball, does not mix the line-in. I've got -l on ultrinit, with no results. I do want the sound effects, so I can't just disable the sound options. Am I missing something? I want King Crimson blasting while I'm chainsawing imps! -- ========================================================================= Phong T. Co phaedrus@Math.McGill.CA McGill University Computer Coordinator Montreal, CANADA Department of Mathematics (514) 398-8448 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:43:49 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Go Subject: Loud Pops from my Sound System. I have once again hooked up my stereo to my GUS, and once again the sucker is now giving me these static pops every once in a while. Has anyone else experienced this? Brian Go | One thing to remember bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca | Is that I have feelings too 2nd year Chem Geek! | I surely would have closed my eyes Displaced Montrealer | If I had known the real you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:24:53 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Harrison Subject: Re: Megaem & T7G > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 07:37:49 -0800 (PST) > From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor) > Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V9 #17 > > $ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 09:08:36 -0600 (CST) > $ From: ibmpa!hartmann.austin.ibm.com!lance@ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (Lance Hartmann) > $ Subject: Seeking help/suggestions installing T7G (The Seventh Guest). > $ > $ I don't know how the rest of you do it, but it just doesn't seem > $ possible for me to load EVERYTHING high: > $ > $ o QEMM I had to use Stealth Mode. Works fine. > $ As such, I tried to use MegaEm. I've used it quite successfully with > $ XWing so I gave it a shot. Unfortunately, I cannot even complete the > $ install. T7G's INSTALL immediately complains that it cannot find > $ the "device" (yes -- I run MegaEm/Emuset BEFORE T7G's INSTALL). I didn't > > Read the MegaEm docs. T7G is one of the games listed as incompatible, for > reasons Jayeson has not yet discovered. Is this true Jayeson? I'm using the first or second T7G patch (the third locks my system up solid no matter WHAT I do.) I ran T7G with both MT-32 and SCC emulation to hear which was best. Never had one problem. Mark Harrison harrison@sun.lclark.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:51:57 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy Subject: Microphones I am looking a Microphone to use with the GUS, what Microphones are available that are Stereo? Thanks! Cheers, Vince hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu root@kingdom.com System Administrator/Owner Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc. San Francisco, California USA \|/ (o o) _____________oOO__(_)__OOo_______________ | No warranty for my actions of any kind | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 22:11:52 EDT From: r3cgm@dax.cc.uakron.edu (Christopher G Mann ) Subject: Music Contest Assuming I got your address right, you are an online publication for computer music oriented things. Please consider posting the following text in your publication with all due haste. ZDDDDDDD? ZD? ZD? ZDDDDD? ZDDD? ZDDDDD? 3 Z? Z? 3 3 3 3 3 3 ZDDDY @? ZY 3 ZD? 3 3 33 33 3 3 3 3 3 3 @DDD? 3 3 3 3 @DY 3 3@DY3 3 3 3 3 3 @DDD? 3 3 3 3 3 ZD? 3 3 3 3 3 @DY 3 ZDDDY 3 ZY @? 3 @DY 3 @DY @DY @DDDDDY @DDDDDY @DDDY @DDDDDY ZDDDDD? ZDDDDDD? ZDDD? ZD? ZDDDDD? ZDDDDD? ZDDDDD? ZDDDDD? 3 ZD? 3 3 ZDD? 3 3 @? 3 3 @D? ZDY 3 ZDDDY 3 ZDDDY @D? ZDY 3 3 @DY 3 3 3 3 3 C? @?3 3 3 3 3 @D? 3 @DDD? 3 3 3 3 ZD? 3 3 3 3 3 3@? @4 3 3 3 3 ZDY @DDD? 3 3 3 3 @DY 3 3 @DDY 3 3 3 @? 3 3 3 3 @DDD? ZDDDY 3 3 3 @DDDDDY @DDDDDDY @DY @DDDY @DY @DDDDDY @DDDDDY @DY by: _____ ___ __ _____ __ __ ___ ___ _____ ___ __ __ ____ __ __ __ __ _ __ ____ ____ __ __ ____ __ _____ __ __ __ ___ ___ __ ___ __ __ ___ __ _______ __ __ __ __ __ ____ __ __ ____ ____ __ _ __ __ __ __ ____ ______ __ ___ _____ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ ___ of Digital Infinity Hello folks. This is Snowman, bringing you a contest. Yes, you guessed it. YOU HAVE TO WRITE A SONG. Musicians from the PC, Amiga, MacIntosh, and Atari scenes are all encouraged to enter. The prizes are modest, but the goal of this contest is to allow computer musicians from all across Earth to "show their stuff." This contest has been running for about the past two months. Unfortunately, it did not occur to me to post the rules into this publication until now. THE BAD NEWS: You only have until the 31st of December to submit your song. THE GOOD NEWS: If you have a song already done that you havn't released, then you are home free. I hope that you decide to enter this contest. We can use all the entries we can get, and it is a good chance for up and coming musicians to be spotlighted. --------- The Rules --------- 1. The song's uncompressed length must not be more than 300,000 bytes in length 2. The musical format can be any one of the following: MOD: can be the 4, 6, or 8 legged variety 669: must play correctly on Composer v1.3 S3M: must play correctly on S3MPLAY v0.9b STM: must play correctly on DMP v2.71 FAR: must play correctly on Farandole v1.00 ULT: must play correctly on Ultra Tracker v1.3 MTM: must play correctly on Multitracker v1.00b 3. All entries are to be submitted before January 1st, 1994. 4. Only one entry per person 5. Songs already released are not allowed to enter 6. The archive name must use the format: $$FILENM. -- where FILENM is your song title. NOTE: Unfortunately, Internet does not accept files that start with "$$", so if you upload it to an FTP site, just strip the "$$". When I upload your song to a BBS, I'll put the "$$" back in. The file name must use the format: $$FILENM. -- where FILENM is your song title. 7. The song must have your handle and/or name in it. 8. The text file SUBMIT.TXT (included in this archive) must be completed and included in your song's archive. 9. The song's archive may include any BBS ads, group .NFOs, FILE_ID.DIZs, or any other such thing. ------------------------ Comments and Suggestions ------------------------ A. If you don't include your home mailing address in the SUBMIT.TXT form, I won't be able to send you your prize :( B. If, for some reason, I can not download, unarchive, or play your song correctly, it is your loss. I have been in this racket for quite some time now and know what I am doing, so chances are that if something is wrong, its probably not my fault C. Upload your song to more than one location ------- Judging ------- There is a commitee of 5 member who will be voting on the songs. Here they are in no particular order: 1. Daniel Potter (author of Farandole tracker) 2. Mike Phillips (sysop of Digital Oxygene BBS) 3. Daniel Goldstein (author of MultiTracker Module Editor) 4. Snowman (author of this contest) 5. Rob Butler (sysop of the Music Connection BBS) Results will be gathered and posted as soon as possible after January 1st. ------ Prizes ------ The top five winners will be mailed a HD 3.5 disk with all of the top songs on it. Unfortunately, on a college budget, that is about the best prize I can offer. ----------------- How To Contact Me ----------------- Christopher G. Mann/Snowman of Digital Infinity Voice: +1-216-253-1019 (Akron Ohio, U.S.A.) Internet: r3cgm@dax.cc.uakron.edu Digital Oxygene BBS: Christopher Mann Music Connection BBS: Christopher Mann Snail Mail: Christopher G. Mann 40 Spruce St. (top unit) Akron OH, 44304 U.S.A. COPY OF SUBMIT.TXT... Song Title: Author: Date Submitted: Length (bytes): How to reach the author: Comments: COPY OF UPLOAD.TXT... Where do I upload my entry? --------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- BBS Number BPS Sysop Location ------------------ ---------------- ------ ------------------ ------------- WORLD HEADQUARTERS Digital Oxygene +1-214-414-5041 14.4k Mike Phillips Texas USA +1-214-530-4636 14.4k +1-214-530-4820 9600 (sign on under the name MUSIC CONTEST if you don't have an account, or sign on for instant access) Music Connection +1-214-596-2827 21.6k Rob Butler Texas USA +1-214-964-3743 14.4k (sign on under the name MUSIC CONTEST if you don't have an account) Data Connection +1-703-506-8598 16.8k Ryan Cramer Virginia USA Programmer's Oasis +1-214-328-6142 14.4k Daniel Potter Texas USA Gamma Quadrant +1-515-221-9859 14.4k High Density Iowa USA The Society +1-503-329-4707 16.8k Brent Page Arkansas USA Wave of Wierdness +1-418-285-4838 14.4k Sleep Walker Quebec CANADA Realm of Chaos +1-519-736-2394 14.4k Lord of Chaos ? CANADA The Sound Cave +32-89-658392 14.4k Neon BELGIUM The Sonic System +32-82173 16.8k The Orme BELGIUM Zyllius +33-9332.0505 16.8k Vincent Mallet FRANCE +33-9332.0720 16.8k +33-9332.6875 21.6k Necronomicon +358-0-388-2710 14.4k Lancelot_Agression FINLAND The SOUND BARRIER BBS (sysop: Daredevil/Renaissance) is NOT an upload site! Under no circumstances are you to upload an entry to this contest to the Sound Barrier. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FTP Directory ------------------------ ----------------------------- wuarchive.wustl.edu \pub\msdos_uploads\mc1 info.brad.ac.uk \incoming\mc1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- SNAIL MAIL ------------------------ Christopher G. Mann 40 Spruce St. (top unit) Akron OH, 44304 U.S.A. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 21:35:26 -0500 From: gkmaier%crlvax.dnet@crl.mobil.com Subject: No sound with Xanth/MEGAEM combo (help) Hello, I just bought "Companions of Xanth" since I'm looking for an adventure game to entertain myself with. It will work with SBOS, and does support MT-32 sounds, but whenever I run MEGAEM no sound at all will play. I tried MEGAEM's -rirqx switch, and have run the setup program many times along with changing my ULTRASND variable, but no luck. Does anyone know how to get Xanth and MEGAEM working together? Thanks, Greg M gkmaier@crl.mobil.com "Gleek gleek is a kooky guy..." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 11:30:19 -0400 (AST) From: Jurassic Mark Subject: Quest For Glory 4 clarification... GUS day people, Can anyone confirm if Quest For Glory IV really uses the Sierra 32bits drivers? So far, only Gabriel Knight and Police Quest IV does. Lesuire Suit Larry VI still uses the old drivers. Someone told me that he got QG4 working fine and the game is now on my list (The G-List). I don't think QG4 is using 32bit drivers because I get the demo running just fine with the Sierra drivers. Anyone care to clear this up? Marc Y. Paulin - Jurassic Mark (Usenet) - J-Mark (IRC) - markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (Talk 'n Mail) - (506)856-9518 - APICS Programming Contest Winner of 1993 -=* GUS won over SB by a score of 32 to 11 *=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 20:38:54 -0400 (AST) From: Jurassic Mark Subject: Re: Quest For Glory IV (fwd) D'day people, Once and for all, here's the clarification about those so-called rumors about Sierra dropping us. And I have another one from Gravis saying that it is true. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 19:31:08 EST From:sierras@aol.com To: markus@info.umoncton.ca Subject: Re: Quest For Glory IV Hello, You are correct: QG4 is a 32-bit program that cannot use the GUS Ultramid driver. We are currently working with Gravis to see what can be done. For the moment, please be aware that our 32-bit games (QG4, Gabriel Knight, and Police Quest:Open Season) do not support GUS. John / Sierras ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 00:05:08 +1100 (EST) From: Iain Huxley Subject: SB rubbish > This may seem like blasphemy, but does anybody know of a Sound > Blaster/Pro/16 digest that works like this GUS digest? Admittedly, I > would be interested in it. Could anyone tell me how to subscribe to > such a digest? Don't worry, I'm sure someone will help you out of pure sympathy... Personally, though, I'd look into how to sell your SB16... Iain ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:52:58 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy Subject: Speakers I'm planning on getting new speakers for my GUS as the Labtec SS-700 I have kinda sucks. Is there any particular speaker anyone out there would recommend? I saw Altec Lansing, Labtec, Koss, Sony, AR Speakers but are not sure which is the best... or maybe I should get a cheap SONY Receiver and hook up some Polk or Infinity Speakers ;-) Thanks! Cheers, Vince hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu root@kingdom.com System Administrator/Owner Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc. San Francisco, California USA \|/ (o o) _____________oOO__(_)__OOo_______________ | No warranty for my actions of any kind | ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V9 #20 ******************************